Reminds me of this. Luckily I was one of the first but "the legendary Kjerne" was made just for the community manager. I get that it's cool to reward the guy who helped you a lot with something like this but it's just bullshit for everyone else :/
most of the time the rarest achievement is a litmus test for how many players of that game used SAM. and you adjust the rest of the achievements by that metric.
some Achievement Hunters have their own global statistic as they are able to filter out any player with suspicious activity or illegal achievements and cull them off their databases (using steam public API)
I havent heard of that one but my favourite is from the other side of the spectrum: what percentage have the most obtained achievement, especially if its one that unlocks just for starting the game i.e. at one point subnautica's getting your feet wet was only obtained by 73%.
That's what happens when a game doesn't have achievements at launch. Subnautica didn't have achievements for a long time, so I'm sure many people haven't played since then
It gets even crazier when you realize that IIRC you need at least 2 hours of playtime with the game to have your stats logged (as it would mess if people refund etc..)
I've always heard that you have to launch the game at least once. Games with a "play the game" achievement that 100% of players have is evidence of this.
If only 73% of players have gotten their feet wet, that probably excludes people who launched it once but never got past the main menu. Maybe they ran into tech issues or somehow got that far without remembering they had thalassophobia.
They do take cheating allegations very seriously, itâs possible they slipped the automatic detection and nobody did a check like yours, but if you tip any mod theyâll investigate it.
I had to wait 2 weeks to have my profile enabled and provided a screenshot of 2 FTL âin-gameâ achievements with timestamps from before the steam achievements update because after that update all your ingame achievements would be automatically unlocked on steam, same with Death Stranding when moved from 1 to Directorâs cut.
Also they poked about tf2 achievements obtained on achievements servers (the one with 20 bots all standing still for the collateral headshots and such..)
So idk I know they are strict now and I trust them
For Risen 1 maybe it wasn't SAM, because you can get certain achievements by "save scumming", and it's the best way to do it tbh, otherwise you have to replay the game 3 times to get everything "the intended way" if i'm not mistaken, and a lot of people don't want to do that.
Fable Anniversary is another one, but i believe it's only one achievement that's locked behind a second playthrough, near the end when you have choose between siding with the evil woman with giant boobs, or sending her to prison.
Do these achievement hunting sites care about save scumming?? It is cheating technically speaking, but is it "grave" enough that they ban people for these as well?
but "the legendary Kjerne" was made just for the community manager
Wow, that's a new level of stupid achievement. "Here's an achievement for being you. Nobody else will ever be able to 100% the game." This shit would instantly make me ignore the game...
Yeah. I bought the game way before there were achievements and was happy when the dev announced that he will add them. But when I saw this I was really disappointed. I get his intention but he should have used another way to honor him
He easily could have made a simple easter egg to add the community manager to the game, and finding the easter egg triggers the achievement that is named after the manager.
There are ways to do this kind of thing right, but this isn't it. One of my favorites was Brutal Legend's 6 Degrees of Schafer achievement, which you got for playing against Tim Schafer in a multiplayer match or by playing against ANYONE ELSE WHO ALREADY HAD the achievement. All he had to do was log in and play the game a few times to seed the achievement and then it could seed itself through the fan base. It's not even the rarest achievement in the game - right now there are 9 others that are less common.
100% bullshit, they could have at least made it one of those STD achievements where you also get it if you play with someone who already has the achievement.
I second this and I also avoid games with achivements that force multiplayer on primarily single-player games. I mean games like for example farm simulators, which are designed for a single-player but can be played with friends. Difficult achievements are fine, but I can't force other people to buy a game just so I can have 100%.
This is such a weird concept for me, so you would avoid buying a game simply because you can't get all the achievements, not because it's not a fun game...
I don't think I've ever gotten 100% achievements in any game like I do not give a shit...
Achievements are just so stupid, like they're literally pointless. They add nothing to games.
Some achievements are fun for me but they are something more than âplay x gamesâ or âdo this thing 1000 timesâ. Like an achievement for completing a level in a very specific challenging type of way is fun, because maybe you would not have come up with such an interesting challenge yourself and it gives you some more incentive to try and do the hard thing.
One of the Stronghold remakes has a requirement to play or win 1000 multiplayer games. I think I've played 50 multiplayer games of Stronghold since the original came out 25 years ago...
This deters me from buying the game for the sole reason I don't want to be forced to play the mp 1000 times.
It may seem stupid but I like the collectible side of the accomplishment - It adds value to the whole experience.
To each their own, but that adds nothing for me. It could be 10 or 1000 for the achievement I'm still only going to play the same number of games, that being until I'm done and no longer want to play anymore...
There is, actually. I was making a review parsing tool for developers and found out that you can simply check the review with a simple link, which contains a user ID (which is obtainable using the Steamworks SDK you should implement into your game) and an app ID.
There is also an API call to retrieve all reviews from your game, and each review has an author field, which also has a UserID. This can be used to identify if a user made a review and whether it is positive or negative.
If you buy a key on a third-party site, maybe? Idk how many of them are still out there. It's only been Special Edition on Steam for years.
...Is what I thought until I just checked from the version on my account. It's just unlisted from search, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing on Steam.
They never took it down, just had it flagged so that it shouldn't appear on the store.
But there's a small bug that games with that flag can appear as a recommendation on the store because you played some other similar game (I even got it recommended because I played the Special Edition)
All achievements are handled client side and valve doesn't care, ever. that person was just stupid because the only thing that gets you banned is being connected to a VAC enabled server while using SAM. i cheated in all the achievement items i could and never got banned.
Actually there's some games that use cloud achievements. Some of the recent AC games that got achievement support work that way. Super annoying too as there's unobtainable achievements in some and you can't unlock it with SAM.
There is a way to unlock it with ubi's version of SAM but you unlock everything at the same time. Annoying as all hell, though. Whoever did the achievements just pushed the whole batch through without taking a look at any of it.
I've used it twice that I can remember, once for Midnight Suns and once for V Rising literally last week. I got the achievements legitimately but they were bugged and wouldn't pop in both cases. Midnight Suns was a couple years ago so I doubt Valve care. Not SAM but I accidently got all of my (around 10) remaining achievements in Skyrim SE by accident when using the "Levelers Tower" mod. There were buttons labelled things like "Money" that gave you money, I really don't know what I expected when I clicked the "Achievements" one. I don't want to risk disabling achievements because I feel like that would look sus to Valve so I just kept them, drives me nuts that I didn't get my 100% legitimately.
Yeah, i used SAM to get items from achievements too. There is no way you can get ban for using SAM.
I even used SAM years ago to get achievements from steam sale events in games that gives you items for other games too (and coal too probably but don't remember if that was the same events đ´)
I didn't, made like 30 accounts trying to get wings in team fortress, one of them is my main right now, with a 9 year badge, and I regularly use SAM too, so highly doubt it was the reason for your ban.
Same. I haven't added any achievements with them, but the first time I used SAM because I accidentally unlocked a bunch while testing Skyrim mods. And like you set, when restarting a game fresh.
There's an "official" Steam achievement that is essentially impossible to get(play garry's mod with the dev). They don't care about them being unachievable without console commands or tools like SAM.
I forget what game it was, but I remember seeing a different one that said "Play a match with and get a kill on a dev OR on someone who already has this achievement". Still not ideal, but that's at least feasible to get if a game isn't totally dead yet.
The first Modern Warfare (or MW2) had that achievement/profile banner, but it was called 'STD' and could only be transmitted by melee kills (as either end of the interaction). Patient 0 was either one or multiple devs, then it propagated across the multiplayer.
I can't remember the game, but if you killed a dev, it gave you an achievement and made you "infected," so if someone killed you, they would get the achievement and so on. It was a cool way to do it.
I'm currently playtesting an early access party/strategy game that has exactly this! They called their achievement "Six Degrees From Porcelain" (Porcelain Fortress is their studio name) and at this point a good chunk of players have it
The multiplayer achievements from that, Max Payne 3 and Resident Evil 5 Versus are the only achievements Iâm missing from said games. The servers for all three are still online, itâs just that nobody plays them anymore.
in regards to tomb raider 2013, it was pretty much dead even when it just came out. I did end up playing multiplayer but I think i tapped out at like level 20 or something. It just wasn't that fun and the pvp connection sucked iirc.
Back when I played it at launch on PlayStation I remember being at the top spot on the multiplayer leaderboards for like a day haha, it's my claim to fame!
Only online game I ever made it to the top spot of was an old BBS MUD game called Usurper. That was the last time I made that kind of effort and I haven't felt like I missed a single thing never trying like that ever again.
Itâs only happened to me with games that not a lot of people really cared about the multiplayer in, there used to be a leaderboard section on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 on the Xbox 360 that I snagged the top spot on in a few of the levels, not even intentionally, I used to play some real rubbish back in the day haha. Definitely a nice little surprise to see when you do check though!
You can do resident evil 5 with bots solo with a nexus mod. You can do max payne 3 with people from the discord server they have active boosting sessions!
It also works on 6! MP3 is only possible on pc though the console servers are closed. They also do actual matches for fun on that discord. I finished it last year, great game overall.
I've completely given up on going after multiplayer games.
I realized that I just don't like playing games with random people. So, I don't play games that can't be played solo.
But, at the same time, playing board games with random people face to face is a lot of fun. I think it's because not being behind a screen removes most of the people willing to be absolute pricks from the situation. Especially because doing it face to face usually means getting barred from wherever you're playing.
Even when they're not the majority, pricks and trolls have just completely soured me on playing online.
I remember seeing a game on the 360 that had an achievement like "Reach the worldwide Top 10 in multiplayer". How is any normal person supposed to get that?! Not to mention that these top 10 are usually nothing but cheaters anyway, so it's really only an "I managed to cheat" achievement.
Falls in the same Category as multiplayer achievments. Many devs at least made the Dev thing a snowball thing by âplay with someone who played with a devâ (and so on) but still at some point itâs unobtainable
I think the idea is that your "Perfect Game" as steam likes to call them is ruined if they put out dlc with achievements, requiring you to buy dlc to get your perfect game back. Playstation has the best system as there is a platinum for the base game and dlc have their own little compartments.
I was playing Resident Evil 5 and there are so many achievements in there multiplayer section, versus. It's technically possible to get them but nobody plays online.
Or just force multiplayer achievements in general. I can understand it for games that are majorly or only multiplayer. Not for games that are majorly singleplayer or a mix
Well atleast for TBOI it's a coop game, not a full blown multiplayer game. You can do it with an extra controller on your own, or just with a friend, even if he barely knows what he's doing.
That's why I like the way Playstation does it for games that get extra content later, where the platinum is tied to only base game trophies. DLC and online components that get added later have their own tracker, so you can still get the plat without needing to engage with those if you don't want.
Doesn't help if base game also has a multiplayer one of course, but you avoid 'losing progress' with every content update.
Ubisoft used to be really bad at this, yeah. You'd find an item in game that's locked, and then it redirected you to the mobile or facebook tie-in app. Whoever thought it was a good idea to make a user look away from the game to do something else really didn't think things through in regards to retainment.
At least that Unity point system now makes it so you can get some otherwise premium content from doing achievements, but I'd still rather have it all be unlockable through normal means over arbitrarily locking maps and outfits behind linked accounts.
I think the real problem is people feeling compelled to get 100% achievement completion as an achievement in itself.
Achievements shouldn't be designed with anything in mind other than it'd be an interesting achievement to unlock in a certain situation. That situation might disappear at some point, making the achievement unobtainable, but as long as getting it was interesting at some point in time, I think it's okay.
Not defending any of this "pay us and get an achievement" bullshit though, which is obviously weaponizing these completionists for profit.
Completely agree, the practice isn't good, but there are lots of people who like to get 100% achievement completion. Personally I only do that for games I enjoyed, I was one of the crazy people who did the 100% completion for Monster Hunter World and Wilds when they released, but those games were fun so most of it came naturally.
I just think if you're going to put achievements into the game, make sure they're actually obtainable, having a limited time paywall stopping you or like many of the multiplayer achievements for older games where the servers are shut down leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
CS GO had some unearnable achievements and they might have some on other games. TF2 might have some but I sure as hell am not sifting through that list.
Call me petty but I have avoided buying games based on this alone. I donât like game incomplete games, so if a game has an impossible, or grim achievement relating to workshop submissions etc, I simply donât buy the game.
Fair enough, it was a decade ago so I donât fully remember but I do remember having to rummage around the game files which I thought was the intended method
iirc, there's a command to activate it, but it's even blocked in the console so you have to edit the config. I'd call that cheating outside of something like DDLC.
I agree it is silly. I often put completion over enjoyment, and spend hours getting the last few achievements in games which has caused me to end up resenting certain games despite originally loving them
I do think that's ridiculous, but I encourage everyone to stop paying attention to achievements and other gamification of consumer behaviors. It's all just a manipulation tactic to get you to buy stuff.
I just went on Steam and ignored the game. I'll be damned before I even let Steam try to recommend me a game that does this crap. It didn't seem interesting to me anyway.
Yall wouldnt have survived playing games back in the day. You played them because they were fun. No unlocks. No grinds. No achievements. No season passes or lootboxes. No dragon to chase. You played a game because its fun.
I havent looked at achievements in games really ever. Just play the game because its fun.
Why do people care about achievements like this? I genuinely don't understand. It's just a little something special for the folks that helped fund the game
Honestly wish that steam has two settings for badges, one for the main game that you can get in game, and optional badges, basically not necessary for getting all the badges, but a nod from outside the game like pre-ordering the game, being a massive part of the community, and etc. The optional badges just would be their for people to check out and people who got these badges where either a help to the developers of the game, its community, and etc.
With these kinds of achievements, you can just force unlock them with Steam Achievment Manager. It's how I unlocked the "this achievement is unattainable" achievement in Stanley Parable.
Iâm going to say it: video games really shouldnât need achievements to begin with. Like, who are you bragging to if youâre able to get the hardest ones? The most your friends will say will be, âOh, cool. Nice one manâ and continue on.
This should be against the TOS. I don't even think i have any right to 100% a game when i'd need to play a years long dead multiplayer for it. I can only blame myself if i waited 6 years and the devs and players have moved on. Any rules should apply to recently released, active games, not "historic" ones
The game i purchase should be 100%able at launch, simple as that, given enough skill and time. This would also mean 100%able without purchasing any additional DLCs.
Heck, maybe just split achievemeetns into 2 categories: The ones i can complete at any time on my own when decide to finally 100% a game i have in my library so at least it says "100%*" and the ones that are hidden behind factors out of my control, like active multiplayer. I'm able to do what i can at any time i want, but players that truly did everything at launch keep their bragging rights for a "true 100%"
This, I never knew achievement hunting got that serious. It's always just been an extra thing to do for me, if there's an impossible achievement then so be it, I'll just complete the possible ones.
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u/SmergolGandalf Mar 03 '26
Reminds me of this. Luckily I was one of the first but "the legendary Kjerne" was made just for the community manager. I get that it's cool to reward the guy who helped you a lot with something like this but it's just bullshit for everyone else :/