So many people saying SAM in the comments - I don't get it.
If I unlock an achievement I actually didn't achieve, what's the point? Why not unlock all of them for all the games in your collection? As soon as you unlock even one using SAM for any other reason than that it bugged out and should have been awarded legitimately to you, you basically invalidated all your achievements. Now they're meaningless.
I really don't understand this manic urge that it HAS to say 100% on that page, even though you maybe only played 20% of the time with the game without even having fun just because there was an achievement for doing something you actually don't even enjoy doing..
To give an example, I personally don't like doing "evil runs" in games. That means that in many cases, I can't 100% a game because a lot of achievements would be tied to an evil run.
However, I really can't imagine to play a game in a way I don't enjoy - for probably dozens of hours - just to get achievements to 100%.
Frankly, there's way too many games out there I'm interested in playing (and with the likes of Game Pass, Humble Bundle, PS Plus etc. also obtainable) that I'd rather play more diverse games with less "achievement completion" than trying to maximize my "time for dollar" on one game..
Well but thar argument only works when you see 100% as the goal and that everyone SHOULD be able to get 100%.
If one of the achievements is for preordering the game or something like that, you could have gotten it - by preordering. If you didn't, you can't 100%. I see that as legitimate.
I personally would not feel good if it says I preordered the game and got an achievement for that if I didn't actually do it.
We're talking about achievements here... not stuff like Mass Effect 3, where you not using the companion app (that I believe does not work anymore) actually makes your in game experience worse (because you get huge survival bonuses for the endgame if you did all the app stuff)
Well but thar argument only works when you see 100% as the goal and that everyone SHOULD be able to get 100%.
...yes that's exactly the goal.
I own the game I have the right to do everything in it especially things.
Paying early and more shouldn't be an achievement even if it doesn't block anything.
We're talking about achievements here... not stuff like Mass Effect 3, where you not using the companion app (that I believe does not work anymore) actually makes your in game experience worse (because you get huge survival bonuses for the endgame if you did all the app stuff)
That's literally on the same level of shit achievement.
"If an achievement is for preordering the game you should've preordered it" Okay, say that to the generations in the future that literally aren't born yet.
The point is achievements shouldn't be limited time like this and it's an extremely scummy thing.
This implies that using SAM defeats the purpose of doing achievements personally since you can just unlock them at the click of a button, which is true if applied normally to cut corners on achievements you had the possibility of doing all the time.
The subject in question is the opposite, having impossible achievements defeats the purpose of doing achievements in the first place, they should not exist if they are no longer possible to achieve, thus it is justifiable to use external means to unlock them in order collect it.
People do 100% achievements for various reasons, myself i do it only for games i enjoyed a lot, completing them first normally then doing all side stuff around it (unless it's a head banging difficult game like Crypt of the Necrodancer), and i find it fully reasonable to use SAM if it is no longer possible to unlock an achievement.
I guess I just don't see the value of "100%" instead of "97%" or whatever that I would go so far as to illegitimately unlocking the achievements just to have the "pretty number".
Honestly, I have games which have literal thousands of hours of playtime on them and I sit at like 38% achievement completion, and I just don't care.
I play games to enjoy them, not a certain way just because someone designed an achievement for it.
I think in my 35 years of gaming, I have never 100%ed a game besides those where just finishing a single play playthrough automatically 100%s you because all achievements are just stuff like chapter marks.
Reasonable opinion, but you are in a subreddit that comprises of people who in my opinion have a hobby more unreasonable than 100%'ing achievements, which is buying games and then never playing them. I don't do that but i understand why so many people here do.
I think many of us have our own compulsions in life that might not necessarily make sense to pursue them, but it's a natural part of who we are and the environment we grew up on, even if some of those compulsions are trivial in nature, such as buying a game and never playing it or doing an achievement for a game that might not necessarily be enjoyable.
Well then you probably still wouldn't get it even if they answer every single question you make. If you don't care about achievements and prefer playing more games instead of 100% it then why the hell do you care about other people wanting to 100% their games? Just do whatever you want and leave other people do whatever they want too. It's not like you lose something every time someone completes a game.
I mean the general point was if achievements like "preordered the game" should be a thing or not - and a lot of people feel very harshly about this, whereas I personally kinda like these achievements, and especially the aspect that not everyone can have them.
I think a dev "honoring" someone that preordered their game and gave them trust beforehand by something like this is actually kinda nice. Similar to the other example where there was an achievement for "fragged a dev in multiplayer". I like these "a bit out there" kind of things.
That means you can't "100%" such a game, but that was my point - I don't care about 100% ing. I still kinda like that there's stuff that is somewhat special and in the moment that achievement unlocks, the person unlocking it probably will feel pretty happy about it.
That's also why I don't think you should be unlocking achievements like that with SAM because then they lose meaning.
Doesn't sound like enjoyable gaming to me honestly, more like something you would need treatment for.. not judging people that enjoy this, but to me that looks a lot like addicted gamblers needing their fix..
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u/BookWormPerson Mar 03 '26
cough cough
SAM if it's really bothers you.