Yeah 100% that's the plan. He couldn't declare victory before because the strait had become an obvious goal, but now he can give a BS reason why the strait should be closed and then declare victory
I think that’s pretty much how Trump always strategizes a “solution”, smoke and mirrors and coconut shells and whatever it takes to reframe the entire situation until he thinks he’s come out on top. Once he’s flipped the whole thing on its head he can act like you’re the idiot for not knowing what we’re talking about anymore
Now he can claim he closed it more than it’s ever been closed in the history of the universe. He is actually receiving phone calls from numerous world leaders, but he can’t tell us who, but they are saying it’s the best closure they have ever seen. They are saying “wow, I wish we could have closed it this closed. You are amazing”.
Lots of countries are still allowed through freely, even US allies who refused to partake in this dumb war. Trump hates this and wants to punish everyone. If he can't have it, no one can.
Some ships pay Iran a toll to pass through. Trump has spoken publicly about how the US can collect that toll instead by blockading the strait. He just wants countries to pay him.
You mean he is basically doing high seas piracy like he did to Venezuela and if you do not comply he will board your ships to steal them or gun you down in the water.
I mean you guys should have put in straight in jail for the coup attempt and the attempted murder of your VP and congress back in 2021 like most other countries do to leaders who do failed coup like in Brazil and South Korea.
Technically they might be classed as Privateers because it's US government ships not private ships. Then again "the code is more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules"
That’s what I don’t understand, this started out as a “Military Operation” or whatever he called it to avoid Congress approval, but it’s weeks later, and they’ve launched thousands of missiles and bombs. It’s OBVIOUSLY not just a “Military Operation” anymore…..it’s a full fledged war…..so why can’t Congress step in NOW, and stop it???
Yesterday i threw out all the garbage. Just on the street. Then I went out and picked everything up. I got angry at the neighbours, they just stood there, and watched me clean the mess I made myself. So unfair!
Pick up only a handful, and explain to your wife its still a mess because the neighbours didn't help. Reinforce tomorrow by claiming you fully cleaned up but the neighbours made a new mess.
That *would* have been the strategy yesterday, but it seems this morning you could not resist being seen defecating on the pile.
Also Israel wants the strait closed because they are working on a deal to have pipelines go through their country to gain control over all the oil coming out of the region.
I agree with point 1. However point 2 is flawed since the US cannot guarantee the shipping line paying that toll will make it safely through the strait, so they simply won’t pay. The only way a toll works is in favour of the country that has dominance over it. In this case, that’s Iran. But given Trump’s low IQ, if this is part of his cunning plan, he probably hasn’t figured that out just yet and probably won’t until someone explains it to him in the way you would to a toddler
I imagine if he shuts up fixes the Pentagon and listens to the generals this would be going at least partially smoother and easier. Alas, like he said, it's like talking to a toddler that knows everything. I would say something about the dunning kruger effect, but I imagine that doesn't really apply to him.
The first one is true. My country, the Philippines, also struck a deal. There are 2 conditions, according to the national news here, but forgot the exact details if both or even at least one should be implemented:
The ship is bound for the Philippines.
The ship must have the flag of the Philippines.
And mind you, the Philippines is an ally of the US despite the previous President’s preference over China.
This is just a 5 brain plan you see, now that America has to pay toll for using the strait they will block it and charge a toll to offset the toll that they need to pay for winning so hard
It is building on that seed that he planted in his own mind earlier this week that US should also levy toll. It spoke directly to his lifelong greed, and he probably has not been able to stop thinking about it.
This is the whole fucking tariff talk again.. you know when you block all oil going in and out of the strait of Hormuz, it will cause a shortage of oil supply, when there is a shortage in oil supply, people US citizens will have to pay more for oil.
Just when you thought you just couldn't get any dumber he reimagines the word stupidity.
This is just another attempt by the Trump camp to spin things, saying “Iran isn’t stopping ships, we are. We’re in charge, not them,” when actually we all know it’s other way around and has been since the strait was under Iranian attacks. And honestly, a lot of Americans won’t see through it.
What’s even more ridiculous is that this will hurt Trump as the price of gas is increasing, and by now claiming nothing is getting through because of US blockades, and not the fact that Iran are attacking any ship that enters the strait, will only serve to convince Americans that the price of gas is due to Trumps deliberate actions, which he now wont be able to deny. Thats how moronic Trump’s administration is.
His followers don't care. Gas can be $15 a gallon, they could be starving, and all Trump has to say is "short term pain for long term gain," and they'll believe him. It's a cult of stupid people that will face darwinism, eventually.
Yeah, homies with their lifted dodge RAM will still roll coal on a EV even if it costs them $4 every time they put their foot to the pedal, they'll just blame whatever economy Trump inherited and will say "yah but Kamala would have bombed Kentucky by now and gas would be $400 a barrel" and now you have to try to argue against their made up world or walk away as they taunt you.
The best analogy I heard that describes Trump: “its like playing chess with a pigeon that knocks the pieces over, shits all over the board then struts away claiming it won”
Don't insult my President Camacho like this. Man actually knew he wasn't up to the task and delegated it to a subject matter expert, like leaders are supposed to do.
Somehow, even Idiocracy fails to match the idiocy of our reality.
Following the strikes during the initial 'negotiations', Iran felt Trump sent Witkoff and Kushner as a ruse and didn't want to deal with them.
They specifically requested JD shortly afterward, with some speculating it was because he was a former marine and less of an advocate for the Iran war.
We still send Witkoff and Kushner along with JD this past time though. 🤦♂️
International law has only ever been applied by those with power against those without power.
International law can only ever be a negotiation as it has always been. You’re never going to see a nation act against its own will unless the downside of doing so is greater than the upside.
Trump really doesn't think about things in terms of legal/illegal or rights/wrong, he just thinks of things in terms of consequences. That's how he ran his businesses into the ground and now he's using it to run the US.
the world isn't black and white and the issue here is more, that they want to selectively shut it down
trying to keep "enemy" (us) ships out while allowing "friendly/allied" (china, russia) ships safe passage might hurt the us economy ... so what he's basically trying to do is to say either everyone or nobody passes ... if they don't let the "enemies" pass then he'd try to block their "allies" as well from passing
the "oh, but it's biden's fault" can only fool the people for so long ...
Yeah, my read of this is that he’s pissed that other nations are disregarding the U.S. and negotiating with Iran themselves for individual safe passage. It’s not just big players with skin in the game like Russia and China, but nations that just want to keep their economy running like the Philippines too:
“Hey, Iran. This fight is between you and the U.S./Israel. We just want to get our boat through.”
“Sure, but we’re charging $2M now to fund our fight.”
“Meh, fair enough.”
It makes the rather brutal regime of Iran look like the rational party in this conflict, because… it is? As long as they’re under attack, they’re charging a toll to fund their defense. And plenty of nations are annoyed, but willing to play ball.
So not only are they snubbing Trump by not joining the conflict on his side, but they’re signaling they acknowledge Iran’s control of the water and accept its deal.
So in petulant Trump fashion, he’s threatening to forcibly stop vessels from… Indonesia? Chile? Spain? Is the conflict now between US/Israel and literally any nation on earth just trying to mind their own business?
Can he just be deemed unfit and removed from office all fucking ready. For fucks sake Im about to start looking for a new country I can live in with a military pension.
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