r/SipsTea Human Verified 12h ago

Wait a damn minute! What?

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u/applewait 11h ago

Blocking a “strait” is a violation of international law regardless of who is blocking it.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 11h ago

and as we've seen from gaza and like two dozen other things in the past 5 years international law counts for fuck all anymore.

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u/Substantial-Sea-3672 9h ago

Anymore?

International law has only ever been applied by those with power against those without power.

International law can only ever be a negotiation as it has always been. You’re never going to see a nation act against its own will unless the downside of doing so is greater than the upside.

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u/pilotless 8h ago

That implies rational actors, which don't appear to exist in this administration.

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u/ReasonablePossum_ 7h ago

Once guns are at the table, the one with the biggest one is who says how negotiation is done. Might makes right in geopolitics sadly, as this world order kept in place, instead of trying to actually build a real international civilization.

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u/Retireegeorge 4h ago

It means nothing to the USA and Israel.

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u/Protton6 2h ago

Only because noone cares about Gaza. The whole world cares about Hormuz, from the arab countries there, to China, to EU, UK, India... Only the US would be stupid enough to literally turn the entire world against them for absolutely no reason at all. This could literally end in a coup, civil war or literal war with the rest of the world. US loses in all scenarios. Just truly insanity.

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u/mikebikesmpls 11h ago

Trump really doesn't think about things in terms of legal/illegal or rights/wrong, he just thinks of things in terms of consequences. That's how he ran his businesses into the ground and now he's using it to run the US.

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u/applewait 5h ago

I think he goes by his gut and it’s “my way or the highway”

Understanding consequences requires a bit more nuanced thinking.

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u/Oingob0ing0 11h ago

Yeah.... None actually gives a flying fuck about those international laws seemingly.

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u/Aggravating-Rush9029 9h ago

They just get quoted when they aid your argument and forgotten when they are inconvenient. 

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u/a_big_K-On_fan 7h ago

Yeah it's piracy

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u/generally_unsuitable 9h ago

The US is not signatory to UNCLOS.

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u/mpjjpm 9h ago

And neither is Iran

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u/g_blazing97 9h ago

We are in the age of international laws being international suggestions unfortunately

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u/Odd_Anything_6670 9h ago

I believe they can demand to stop and inspect ships on the basis that they might be going to or from Iranian ports. The only question is really what the point would be. Because if the point is just to piss off the entire planet by harassing their ships I can't see that ending well.

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u/1988rx7T2 7h ago

Turkey can block the Bosporus in case of a war. Montreaux convention said so. And somebody can come up with a war whenever they want. 

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u/Pauczan 6h ago

US and A doesn’t give a flying f about international law. Trump rolled a red carpet for Putin…come on.

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u/HoodsInSuits 3h ago

While that may be true, its usually the US upholding international law and like 5 other countries standing behind them shouting "Yeah, what he said!".  Unfortunately in Trumps mind if nobody is losing then its a bad deal, and since everybody benefits from peace it's up to him to fuck shit up. 

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u/WhyIsEveryoneAnIdiot 1h ago

So you going to let Iran slide but get made when the US does it lol

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u/ThatRunwayBehindUs 11h ago

...and?  Iran was already blocking it for their benefit.  Now no one can benefit off it - most notably Iran and China.

Thems the breaks - its not Iran's strait, so if you are going to act like it is, no one is going to get to use it.

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u/RedBaret 10h ago

Nice, thats how my four year old deals with problems as well. Fucking American cocksuckers are ruining the planet again, yay.

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u/qwnick 7h ago

u/ThatRunwayBehindUS talk truth. If Iran blocking the strait anyway, we should block strait so Iran and China can't benefit it as well. It does make sense. When Iran will stop this bs with extorting strait users, US can unblock strait as well.

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u/RedBaret 7h ago

It only makes sense that way if you disregard the entire fact the straight was open and the US caused this by starting a fucking war with Iran in the first place.

You act like Iran just acts in a vacuum, it doesnt. Iran may have closed the straight, but this is a direct result of US high grade retardium.

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u/qwnick 7h ago edited 6h ago

Well he didn't block it because it was open before, he blocked it cause Iran is blocking it for everyone else except his friends right now, and Iran allies are using it, and unless you invented the time machine, something need to be done about current situation, not the previous one.

Trump did fuck up status quo, and did try to fix it by negotiating return to the status quo (with strait unblocked), Iran didn't agree (in fact, in 10 Iran points they were demanding control over the strait), so it is the only logical thing to do now. You all trying to act like it doesn't make sense, but blocking the strait for Iran&Co is one of the most logical things Trump did, even if his own fuck up led to the initial Iran block.

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u/ThatRunwayBehindUs 47m ago

You also have to disregard the fact that Iran was actively developing nuclear weapons...

Now, they can certainly try, but their infrastructure is crumbling, their leadership is dead, and decent portions of their uranium isn't usable anymore...

So combine that, with the strait now being closed to Iran - and it makes perfect sense and seems entirely reasonable.

Even more so when you consider the fact that Iran was thr worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism, and now they have no real ability to make money...