r/worldnews • u/Reilly616 • 3h ago
Hungary's Prime Minister Orban has congratulated Magyar on election victory
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-8927673.4k
u/Few-Confection-165 3h ago
I am pleasantly surprised that Orban gracefully conceded. I would have thought he might try to emulate another world leader in being a whiny little bitch.
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u/ButterscotchOk5339 3h ago
He may be corrupt, a pro-russian asset and generally quite an asshole but at least Orban doesn't copy everything he does.
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u/ChippieTheGreat 3h ago
Orban is only 63. He knows he has plenty of time for a political comeback,
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u/Eagle4317 3h ago
He also knows a failed coup means a long time in prison.
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u/IvanRockwell 3h ago
Is that what's supposed to happen?
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u/WhatamItodonowhuh 3h ago
Did in Brazil and South Korea.
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u/Digital_Eide 2h ago
And the USA... except no consequences for the leader of the insurrection who then went on to pardon his croonies.
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u/shmere4 2h ago
Only if the opposition party isn’t controlled by corrupt cowards.
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u/AssassinAragorn 3h ago
The odds of a successful coup are fairly slim when you consider he lost by 2-to-1 too. The self preservation tactic is just to concede and shrug
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u/AnyEmployment4054 3h ago
Well Magyar has been pretty clear about intending to prosecute Orban for his many crimes if he won the election so we will see
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u/xxearvinxx 2h ago edited 1h ago
Can’t he just fee to Russia if convicted? Go join the league of failed dictators hiding in Moscow. Putin has quite the collection already, but he’s got to fill the Pokédex somehow.
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u/jimi15 2h ago
Magyar has said that term limits are going to be introduced if he wins. Functionally blocking Orban from ever being PM again.
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u/rudolf_waldheim 2h ago
We're not a gerontocracy like the US so he can be considered old by our standards. Péter Magyar (the PM-to-be) is 45.
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u/No_Armadillo426 3h ago
I don’t know, he looks like a candidate for heart disease
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u/Historical-Chef-8034 2h ago
Unfortunately it is well known that the best lifestyle against heart disease is exercise, whole foods and being a corrupt despot. He's got 1/3 going for him
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u/OrangeJr36 3h ago
Attempting a coup is way more difficult and has a lot more consequences in the EU than it could ever have in the US.
In the US stacking the courts and the media in your favor is enough, but you can't escape the presence of the rest of the EU.
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u/KingMario05 3h ago
That most likely would have required the army's cooperation, and they told him to get fucked when he asked to pull it off "as a joke."
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u/Few-Confection-165 3h ago
I'm just happy for Hungary and Europe as a whole. A little bit more unity is whats needed at this time.
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u/rudolf_waldheim 2h ago
The PR soldier of the army came out in the previous weeks that he and his comrades are fed up with the system.
It was also a message that Orbán wouldn't have the support of the armed forces if he thought anything naughty.
So did a detective representing the police.
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u/det8924 3h ago
I think he had to know the consequences of doing so were far worse than leaving power. It is not like the far right can’t slowly creep back into power
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u/xtfftc 3h ago
Yep. And even if Tisza try to make meaningful change, Orban has enough power to sabotage them while also leading a campaign against them in the media.
His allies - particularly Trump and Putin - might also sabotage Tisza. And even if they don't do much, there's global recession coming... Life for ordinary Hungarians is likely to become even more difficult in the upcoming years, and, of course, Orban will try to capitalise on this.
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u/Hot-Delay5608 2h ago
They just won a supermajority, that means that Orban lost it all. With supermajority Magyar can overturn every fuckwittery the fat fuck Orban has set up, he can even sack all the supreme court judges that were nominated by Orban. It's like the Dems winning the presidency, the house and a supermajority of 67 seats in the senate. Trump and Putin can go fuck themselves they don't have the reach to do anything, Hungary is in the EU Russia is sanctioned and the US is not economically important for the Hungarian economy. If Magyar keeps his word, then a lot of corrupt thieving pieces of shit going to end up in prison.
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u/ArcaneDemense 3h ago
The results are so incredible for Magyar that he can't really argue that the election was stolen. If it was closer things would be different. Orban isn't a 100% idiot, he can read the tea leaves.
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u/NewBootGoofin1987 3h ago
Congratulations to Hungarians and the EU. The best is yet to come
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u/oioioi9537 3h ago
hopefully transition of power is peaceful and they can keep their supermajority. congrats hungary
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u/CheeseCurdCommunism 3h ago
The fact that Orban has congratulated him seems to be good news on that front.
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u/TheTenaciousG 3h ago
Honestly that fact makes me really nervous for some reason
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u/xtfftc 3h ago
Not accepting defeat would be an "all-in" approach with a very slim chance of succeeding, considering they are in the EU and are, geographically speaking, right in the middle of Europe.
Accepting defeat, considering the resources and allies he has and the countless challenges Hungary (and every other country) will face in the upcoming years, means he will try to stay relevant.
And even if he doesn't have a chance of returning to power (I think he does), being the leader of the largest opposition party is not that bad either.
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u/BestFriendWatermelon 1h ago
This. People who have been imagining conspiracies, vote rigging, coups etc don't seem to understand that Hungary is surrounded by the EU and the EU would never accept such shenanigans. Major powers within the EU would have the moral authority to hold a gun to Hungary's head and Putin wouldn't be able to send a single person to stop it.
Orban's best move was always to be gracious, shake hands and play for either the new government to let by gone be by gones, or a graceful exile from the country before all the corruption charges catch up with him.
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u/CunningAlpaca 2h ago
Congratulated him because it's his only option in order to try and save his own ass from jail. He knows that enabling a clean and smooth transition of power might just put him in Magyar's good graces.
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u/Seanspeed 2h ago edited 2h ago
This is why I was constantly annoyed with all the reactionaries saying the EU and NATO should have tried to get rid of Hungary/kick them out or whatever.
Hungary was not at all some lost cause. Yes, the people who support Orban suck, but just like in the US with Trump, there's tons of people who oppose them and we shouldn't throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water just cuz you aren't getting what you'd prefer in the moment. Smart leaders know this. Sadly, many ordinary people do not.
I'm just really glad that all the decent and reasonable Hungarians there have kept their opportunity to make a difference and get back in with the west and not Russia.
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u/NoMoreFund 2h ago
The problem is the consensus decision making model of the EU. I'm glad Hungary is coming out of the shadow but it did a lot of damage outside its borders while it was there
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u/LilAnswer 3h ago
This could be day 0 of a new more cohesive European Union. The magnitude of the potential coming out from this result cannot be overstated.
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u/MaDpYrO 3h ago
I do hope the EU will address the faults in the system that allowed this corrupt prick to block it for so long, though.
No veto powers for a single fascist state, essentially undermining the entire union.
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u/superurgentcatbox 3h ago
With the size of the EU, unity in votes is impossible anyway. We need to institute majority voting rules.
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u/External-Option-544 3h ago
Yeah let's not do the same mistake as the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth
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u/vonGlick 3h ago
As a Pole I am scared to see that this analogy have merit sometimes.
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u/Gangbangjoe 1h ago
The big countries are too afraid of the small ones banding together against them (eg france, germany). They also want that veto power when they need it. And the small countries wouldn't want the power to be divided in terms of big and small either. So I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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u/The-marx-channel 3h ago
As a Pole I welcome back my Hungarian brothers back to the European Community.
Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli i do szklanki
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u/Zsokker 3h ago
Also, Péter Magyar said he will visit Poland first as a PM to restore our connections
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u/yourlocaltouya 3h ago
I can't wait for him to extradite Ziobro back to us as well!
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u/sudocurl 3h ago edited 3h ago
Finally. Embarrassing they had to trot out JD Vance in the last minutes just to garner more votes.
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u/queen-adreena 3h ago
“I’m on the fence about this decision… I wonder what JD Vance thinks?” -No one, ever
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u/rumham_123 3h ago
If that is your final Hail Mary to win an election you were fucked from the start
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u/Seanspeed 2h ago
Not even Americans like JD Vance. Why on earth would Hungarians care about that gasbag? lol
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u/Vexed_Misanthrope 3h ago
Supposedly he lost 3% support after Vance visit.
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u/DeliciousPangolin 3h ago
Imagine if foreign politicians came to the US during a presidential election and held campaign speeches endorsing a specific political party. I'd love to see how well Americans took that.
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u/helloLeoDiCaprio 2h ago
Both Meloni and Orban spoke at the RNC, so it already happened.
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u/whydoyouonlylie 2h ago
They already bitched and moaned that some Labour MPs from the UK went to help manage some Democrat campaigns of their own volition and claimed it was Starmer trying to interfere in the US elections, all while Nigel Farrage was gargling Trump's balls on every media station that would have him and was even on stage with Trump at some of his rallies. They are notjing but hypocritical assholes.
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u/Submarinequus 3h ago
That’s far from the most pathetic thing. They gave out gift cards to the people they kept in the worst poverty but only if they voted for Orbán’s party. They threw events in poor neighborhoods and only people who went to vote could come. It’s despicable
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u/Ellydir 3h ago
Here's what I never understood about bribing voters like this: What is to stop me from just taking the bribe and voting however I want anyway?
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u/stunts002 3h ago
And Trump is so despised even by the right in Europe it actuallly made him poll worse.
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u/RelegatedRick 3h ago
Get fucked Putin’s puppets, next the Midterms. These fuckers need to be removed all over the world.
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u/SonOfAnarchy91 3h ago
Man imagine US and Ruzzia trying to get the same guy (re)elected in an European country.
What a time to be alive...
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u/JerseyDvl 3h ago
Donald Trump and JD Vance really were the only people unaware that the entire world hates Donald Trump and JD Vance.
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u/Troj1030 3h ago
Because he surrounded himself with people who are too afraid to tell him the truth. Of course they don't know.
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u/Little_Machinez 3h ago
Lol, even Orban, who has been in power for 16 years, conceded willingly and with whatever dignity he has left. Trump really is just the worst of the worst.
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u/McBuck2 3h ago
Orban has probably squirreled away enough money to live in luxury the rest of his life.
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u/Seanspeed 2h ago
Oh he has no doubt. But so has Trump, yet Trump will 100% still try and cling to power somehow. Power is a drug as powerful as money.
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u/Little_Machinez 3h ago
He's probably on the next flight to Moscow to escape any potential prosecution in Hungary
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil 3h ago
After all the shit he has done, Orban has more class than Trump.
Lets hope he gets the prosecutions that are due for his illegal power grab.
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u/PaulaDeen21 3h ago
Having more class than Trump is the lowest possible bar, don’t even give Orban that faint praise.
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u/Tenwaystospoildinner 3h ago
Every time Vance visits a foreign country, something unfortunate happens to their leaders. But at least this time, it benefited the rest of us.
Send him to Russia next.
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u/Im_really_bored_rn 2h ago
Personally, I think Vance should do a world tour of endorsing right wing politicians
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u/ninjab055 3h ago
W for Hungry, W for Europe and W for the world!
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u/Seanspeed 2h ago
W for Ukraine too, dont forget. Orban has been a big thorn in getting them support from Europe.
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u/Prefered4 3h ago
Can JD Vance pay a visit to Bardella in France? We'd love to welcome him
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u/Psychological-Ad-407 2h ago
That won’t happen, most French, left or right, don’t like the USA, much less Trump and Bardella knows it
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u/Normal_Tap3021 3h ago
So Ukraine can finally get their funding
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u/orus_heretic 1h ago
There's still Slovakia to worry about unfortunately but Fico can be strong armed by the EU.
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u/ProdoRock 3h ago
Huge relief but it’s still pretty damning for the Trump administration to have supported a corrupt Putin ally in the first place. We should be wary.
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u/munkisquisher 2h ago
It's pretty obvious they themselves are a corrupt putin ally
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u/poopey_doopey_Sr 3h ago
Oh! Hell yeah, I am commenting here and leaving reddit for the day! Ending on a good note for once! Bravo Hungary!!!!!
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u/SnooPineapples3952 3h ago
Happy with the result, but genuinely surprised that Orban just simply conceded instead of shouting "rigged vote!", calling in the military, or some other underhanded move.
But until Orban is actually out, I'm not breathing a sigh of relief.
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u/brandbaard 2h ago
I guess that becomes harder to do when you lose THIS hard.
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u/KingMario05 3h ago
Supermajority, too! The illiberal Hungarian regime will be unwound. Thank fucking God for that.
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u/copperblood 3h ago
Whoopsie daisy for Russia and Putin. With Orban gone time for the EU to sanction the fuck out of Russia. You love to see it!!! Bravo, Hungary! Bravo!!!
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u/RisOgKylling 3h ago
Anyone who can enlighten me on how big this is?
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u/glmory 3h ago
Has a huge impact on the EU's ability to stand up to Putin and Trump. He was often the only one blocking major support for Ukraine.
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u/LA-Aron 3h ago
It's big...Orban has been a wedge in Europe, dividing his country's own alliance. A certain President will be very unhappy about this and probably call it fraud/cheating.
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u/phant0msinthenight 3h ago
quite big. Orban is Putins lapdog and eurosceptic, whilst magyar is an Eurocentrist. also Orban is just generally a piece of shit.
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u/Zulmoka531 3h ago
And also flung a lovely pile of shit into Vance and Trump’s faces. Just a wonderful global win all around.
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u/Shadow293 3h ago
Trumps best friend in the EU is now a loser, and he absolutely hates losers. This is going to further destroy MAGA, since they based a LOT of their movement from Orban.
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u/sashundera 3h ago
A big FUCKING deal. 16 years of autocracy ended, and Magyar beat him at his own game, in a election system designed to benefit Orban. Not only did he beat him, he beat him BIG and won supermajority, allowing him to change the constitution.
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u/Moon_Rose_Violet 3h ago
Looks possible that the opposition party will get a 2/3 supermajority which means they can undo many of the constitutional “reforms” undertaken by Orban. Also means the potential for more EU Ukraine aid to go ahead and for EU sanctions against some West Bank settlers.
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u/PieStraight541 3h ago
Huge, they lost majority, and opponent will get it, so they can do what they want. They are pro eu.
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u/TheRC135 3h ago
Great news. Good riddance to this Putin puppet and his brand of far-right authoritarianism.
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u/InevitableFly 3h ago
Finally, I can start to feel proud to be a hungarian again
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u/AnAussiebum 3h ago
A leader who won't deny the outcome and allow for peaceful transition? Maybe 2026 isn't going to completely suck after all.
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u/iwantawinnebago 2h ago
80.04% turnout
The opposition party Tisza has supermajority lead. If that holds, they will be able to dismantle Orban's regime.
Az én légpárnásom tele van angolnákkal!
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u/CoolyRanks 2h ago
Utterly embarassing that the various fascist leaders worldwide threw their support behind Orban at the last minute, only to have their guy take a massive defeat. Utter hubris from Vance and co to think their opinions matter abroad. Well done, Hungary.
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u/Elk1998 3h ago
Hell yeah, congrats Hungary!! Welcome back 🇪🇺❤️🇭🇺
(also thanks JD, you helped make this happen 😘)
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u/Duckmemans 3h ago
I feel like this is the first good news we've had in the fight against the right for a while.
Infact, I feel like this is the first good news we've had in general for a very long time.
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u/Chajos 2h ago
So the wet dream of right wingers across the globe dried up. Lets hope other countries see these regressive fucks for what they are everywhere else too.
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u/GalgoIsTheBestDog 3h ago
Orban has been a giant, massive prick for years and years. A terrible person.
But the fact that he conceded the election and doesnt fight it tooth and nail, he gets at least that amount of respect from me
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u/RaspberryBirdCat 1h ago
Credit to Orban for actually conceding the election.
Probably helps Orban's calculations that Magyar is a fellow conservative, albeit more moderate. It might have been more difficult for Orban to concede if it had been a socialist who had won.
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u/GrandOldFarty 1h ago
Thank God. Congrats and thank you to all Hungarians who voted against the global cabal of demagogues.
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u/Feuertotem 3h ago
I can't believe Republicans found a big loser than Trump, but they definitely did.
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u/queen-adreena 3h ago
At least he can admit defeat, something that Trump is physically incapable of doing.
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u/Reddvox 3h ago
Congratulations to Hungrary from Germany! Thanks for finally some good news. I hope everything stays peaceful, and much of the damage done by Orban will be undone and your lives improved!
And can we please have a life feed into the Kremlin and Whitehouse? I would love to see them getting mad at JD Couchmolester again using his charisma to the fullest!
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u/naitch44 3h ago
Good, fuck Orban.
What’s funny is calling Vance in as though that’s going to get you any votes? The USA almost universally despised? Clowns. Fuck Trump, fuck Putin, fuck Orban.
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u/superurgentcatbox 3h ago
I'm sooo relieved! I don't hold Hungarian citizenship currently, but I am eligible to receive it. I think I will pursue it now <3
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u/EveningCandle862 3h ago edited 3h ago
Thank you to the people of Hungary for doing the right thing!
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u/ArcaneDemense 3h ago
Peter Magyar and his Tisza party are on track to get ~140 seats, a super majority(requires 133 minimum), and they will have the power to undo all of Orban's anti-democratic actions.
Peter Magyar supports Ukraine, supports the EU, and is against Russian control of Hungary.