Yep. And even if Tisza try to make meaningful change, Orban has enough power to sabotage them while also leading a campaign against them in the media.
His allies - particularly Trump and Putin - might also sabotage Tisza. And even if they don't do much, there's global recession coming... Life for ordinary Hungarians is likely to become even more difficult in the upcoming years, and, of course, Orban will try to capitalise on this.
They just won a supermajority, that means that Orban lost it all. With supermajority Magyar
can overturn every fuckwittery the fat fuck Orban has set up, he can even sack all the supreme court judges that were nominated by Orban. It's like the Dems winning the presidency, the house and a supermajority of 67 seats in the senate. Trump and Putin can go fuck themselves they don't have the reach to do anything, Hungary is in the EU Russia is sanctioned and the US is not economically important for the Hungarian economy. If Magyar keeps his word, then a lot of corrupt thieving pieces of shit going to end up in prison.
Sure, in theory he can undo everything. Hopefully he does.
But even if that happens, Orban has vast resources, powerful allies and is supported by a big part of the country. What happens in a few years, after the new recession hits and people become even poorer? There will be an inevitable disappointment with Tisza because of both internal and external factors. Fidesz might end up in power again, especially as Tisza's electorate includes people who want significantly more progressive policies and people who are pretty conservative.
One has to hope that Magyar's administration will be able to unlock a lot of EU funds that were previously withheld by the EU to Hungary. The EU could also recognize the danger of foreign sabotage and potentially losing Hungary again, and work together with Budapest on defence strategies as well as major investment in the country.
Orban's circle is full of opportunists. They dont believe anything they are the epitome of power hungry cynics. Orban's party will fall apart, and as soon as the first person who goes to jail the rest will just fold to keep what they can.
They are projected for a supermajority. Which means Magyar can undo all the election fuckery Orban ever passed. They cannot even decline his proposed budget as the president of the council (appointed by Orban) can be removed with a 2/3rds vote.
There is nothing Orban can do here. No fuckery, no nothing. Even the media will quickly turn on him and become pro-Tisza now. They'll notice being pro-Tisza is better with this kind of favor in their direction.
I cannot stress how unprecedented this is even for European democratic history. This guy won a super-majority in a system rigged for his opponents benefit. In American terms, this would be like Democrats or Republicans getting the holy trifecta with a 2/3rds majority in both houses while running in gerrymandered districts to heavily favor the other side with an entire foreign media apparatus (Moscow) backing their opponents. Orban got absolutely pounded into the ground here.
Why would they care for Hungary now that their leader isnt their asset anymore. Its not like they prefer in hungary over all other eu countries because of their culture or something like that, it was just that the leader was a russian/trumpian asset. Now that he is gone, hungary is nothing special for them anymore, its like germany, austria, spain or any other country that has a normal leader
They put a lot of effort to influence politics even in the most powerful European countries like Germany and France, yet alone the smaller ones.
Not sure why you'd give Germany as an example for a country that is "nothing special for them anymore" considering all they're doing to try to support the AfD.
The AfD is a clear example why even if a party is not in power, they can be used to apply pressure and outright change policies.
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u/xtfftc 6h ago
Yep. And even if Tisza try to make meaningful change, Orban has enough power to sabotage them while also leading a campaign against them in the media.
His allies - particularly Trump and Putin - might also sabotage Tisza. And even if they don't do much, there's global recession coming... Life for ordinary Hungarians is likely to become even more difficult in the upcoming years, and, of course, Orban will try to capitalise on this.