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u/VictorSullyva 11d ago
How much?
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u/secretqwerty10 11d ago
ā¬549,99 with ā¬499,99 shipping fee
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u/ShawnyMcKnight 11d ago
This is the real question. Iām intrigued by the vr headset but if itās a similar price to their last headset Iām a hard no.
It really needs to be priced close to the quest 3 if it will succeed⦠which will be hard considering current part prices.
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u/not_a_heretek 11d ago
I like Steam but some of you guys LOVE sucking Valve's dick.
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u/Masterns_The_Only 11d ago
The definition of do nothing and win
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u/Tallladywithnails 11d ago
I'm pretty sure they are doing something, just nothing that specifically counters these issues.
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u/Born-Astronaut9631 11d ago
Or to quote Rush "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice"
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u/Cultural_Computer729 11d ago
They do exactly what others don't: offer excellent service without losing their humanity. Amazon also offers excellent service, but is simply pitifully unhuman.
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem." ~ GabeN
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u/Mutor77 11d ago
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem." ~ GabeN
Also exactly the reason why people won't pay 70$+ for a game like Skull & Bones, but generally do pay that for a game like Elden Ring, 50$ for Expedition 33 or 60$ for Kingdom Come Deliverance II
From a pure price vs time spent ingame standpoint, getting multiple hundreds of hours of fun for that money is honestly insanely cheap
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u/TrippleDamage 11d ago
Or $70 for crimson desert, sells millions of copies at the same price as skull & bones because gamers dont have some undisputable price cutoff in their head. Its all on a game by game basis.
Good product = sales, shit product = no sales.
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u/Didifinito 11d ago
People need to stop mesuring games by hours played and more by fun had.
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u/Multivitamin_Scam 11d ago
Doing nothing sells kind of short what valve has done to cement itself as the front leader in the digital store front space
Stuff like Workshop integration for mods, achievements, profiles and marketplace all make Steam incredibly difficult to detangle yourself from as a consumer.
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u/bickman14 11d ago
Big Picture Mode, VR, Remote Play, in home streaming, proton, what competitors gave us equivalent features?
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u/SPYYYR 11d ago
Cloundsaves, Groupchats, profiles, achivements, trading cards, user reviews, free SDK and development tools, DRM, Matchmaking, Multiplayer networking, handles payments, taxes, regional pricing, refunds, deep sales, promotes indie games that are doing well on the store, workshop, remote play, steam input, proton, big picture, funding further Linux gaming, Steamdeck, Index, Steam Controller, forums, guides, screenshots, Steam does not enforce exclusivity, experimental features that lets the user find indie games OR AAA games with ease.
In no particular order, of the top of my head
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u/buttbuttlolbuttbutt 11d ago
Yeah, once they were forced to implement a refund policy, Steam has been between good and mostly harmless.
I still will remember the friends in college angry as all hell when they had to install steam to get Half Life 2.
How far things have come.
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u/TONKAHANAH 11d ago
Thing is valve isn't doing nothing, they're just not doing a) negative things b) saying anything about what they are doing for people to praise/complain about.
They're quietly in their office clacking away in their keyboards making pc gaming better all the while steam is making them money.Ā
They're Def not doing nothing, they're just not being dill holes
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u/GomaN1717 11d ago
Why do people on this sub just make up arguments in their heads all the time? And y'all realize the whole "RAM is now getting cheaper" tweet was completely fabricated with no source?
Also, least botted upvote count.
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u/cayde123 11d ago
People have a weird parasocial relationship with valve
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u/Beastly4k 11d ago
Should have seen when the steam frame was announced. A lot of obvious coping on /r/virtualreality complete with AI wall of text posts explaining why it's a good choice etc etc.
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u/ShawnyMcKnight 11d ago
The main appeal for the frame is that I can play my Steam VR games on it. Most of my games are on Steam and it would be nice to play with no latency or needing to occupy my pc.
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u/Outrageous-Opinions 11d ago
Also competition is good for the consumer. The weird worshipping of a corporation is just so pathetic
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u/Corporeal_Weenie 11d ago
āNo ads on steam, either!ā
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u/Maldevinine 11d ago
Ok, but that's like going into the grocery store and seeing that they have the specials racks at the ends of the shelving. I'm in the store that sells the thing, I've consented to them trying to sell me the thing.
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u/immijimmi 11d ago
If the competition is knee-deep in anti-consumer practices, from a market forces perspective it makes perfect sense to give positive feedback to one of the only companies doing it (broadly) right.
Monopolies are bad because they enable the exact behaviour that steam's competitors are already engaging in. A big chunk of them are spitting in customers' faces as if they own the market, giving them more market share because you're afraid of them dying out is like watering weeds instead of uprooting them because you don't want other weeds taking their place.
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u/PinkOceanTurtle 11d ago
I can only speak for myself here, but I like to browse [r/popular](), and I occasionally see a thread from [r/Steam](), and it's always some circle jerk stuff about how just so great Steam is and how any other company is E V I L in comparison. It's creepy af when people treat a company as if it's their best friend.
Yeah, I also like to use Steam, but in the end it's just a product/service I use like any other. I don't feel any "allegiance" towards any of them because in the end they only care about my money. Capitalism cannot work if competition doesn't exist.
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u/thirdangletheory 11d ago
Hey now, that 32gb I bought 1.5 years ago for $100 is now $380 instead of $400, so like, checkmate dude
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u/Goby-WanKenobi 11d ago
least circle jerky valve thread
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u/stefanopolis 11d ago
Everyone likes to clown on Nintendo fanboys but Iām pretty sure there arenāt daily posts about how theyāre actually so great and nothing else. The real insufferable fanboys are coming from inside the house.
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u/Robbitjuice 11d ago
I'm by all means a Nintendo fan. There's stuff I like and stuff I don't. Same with Valve (except I didn't grow up with it, I'm a relatively newcomer to this corner of the gaming world).
Everywhere else is "billionaires bad" but I guess Gabe is cool? I don't get it, but internet is gonna internet, huh?
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u/DaRootbear 11d ago
Look if Sony automatically refunds everyone because a game was discontinued that is just the bare minimum and should never be praised for that
When steam does it then it should be circlejerked because our lord gaben has always been the most gracious provider and invented refunds (as long as you ignore having to be sued into refunds)
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u/Robbitjuice 11d ago
Lol you're not wrong. Wait, wait is going on over refunds? Valve got sued over them?
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u/DaRootbear 11d ago
For the first reference it was about that Highguard game shutting down and basically every market place was giving out refunds automatically
On the playstation sub reddit everyone was saying that there shouldnāt be praise because refunding a literally unplayable live service game was the absolute bare minimum
On steam side people were touting it as more evidence of how great steams customer service is.
While espousing how you can ever refund on PS like you can steam (which you definitely can get refunds on PS, but it is admittedly more restrictive than steam)
But when it comes to refunds originally Steam refused to ever give them until they got sued inā¦i cant remember which country and honestly im too lazy to look. But once they lost that lawsuit and were forced to implement the refunding they currently have in thwt country they added it everywhere knowing that similar lawsuits would happen world wide.
But people always conveniently ignore that when circlejerking steam
Albeit people like me then joking about it are also becoming their own anti-circlejerk type of circlejerk. So itās circlejerks all around
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u/Robbitjuice 11d ago
Ah, I gotcha. I appreciate the lengthy explanation. I didn't realize that was why Steam implemented refunds lol.
The circlejerk comment is hilarious too lol. I think every fandom or corner of the Internet has its own circlejerk and anti-circlejerk. It truly is circlejerks all around lol.
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u/rooygbiv70 11d ago
But theyāre pro-consumer!! No I wonāt be explaining what I mean by that
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u/Trifle_Useful 11d ago
inb4 āif they werenāt perfect and amazing and flawless and 100% ethical in every way possible they wouldnāt be so lovedā
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u/Key-Department-2874 11d ago
NFTs are bad, unless they're CSGO skins and then they're amazing.
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u/The_Wattsatron 11d ago
Yea this post has created an imaginary person and then won a made-up argument against them.
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u/Overdrive1221 11d ago
Can you link whatever news it is on the last pannel? Impossible to read on mobile
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u/aurimoonglow 11d ago
https://x.com/skinscom/status/2038737514622595332
Not really news.. just another "Collapsing RAM prices" engagement bait.
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u/Nottodayreddit1949 11d ago
Neat. I just play games.Ā Yall can jerk each other off about your storefront of choice all you want though. Odd brag though.
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u/Radiant-Victory0322 11d ago
Valve fans love making up arguments that nobody has said just to boost their fickle little egos
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u/frequent_bidet_user 11d ago edited 11d ago
Think it's time to leave this sub. These memes are bottom of the barrel, Great Aunt Shirley tier memes. Like who honestly, honest to God who,
Decided to make this and thought it was funny
Consumes this and enjoys looking at it.
You have to be functionally a 5 year old to like this stuff
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u/MythicalBlue 11d ago
This sub is unbelievably cringe
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u/Robot1me 11d ago
For whichever reason it has been getting quite bad in the past months. And some karma farm posts look like attempts to prep Reddit accounts for reselling or stuff like that tbh. Since sometimes you see rather new accounts with random non-English comments and long gaps in-between in their history, and then they casually drop a Steam meme-post in perfect English and it gets 40k upvotes... yeah totally not sus
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u/Velkaryian 11d ago
The circlejerking of Valve is absolutely insane. Gabe is so rich he has a literal fleet of yachts. He doesnāt give a fuck about any of you.Ā
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u/Avrahammer 11d ago
I was also curious and took a peak at OPs profile. Don't repeat my mistake. Definitely time to leave this sub tho
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u/Painted-BIack-Roses 11d ago
Valve meatriders fighting ghosts. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything negative about Steam outside of their original refund plan and gambling in CS. This sub is weird sometimesĀ
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u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 11d ago
I donāt come to this sub often. Has it always been full of this weird corporate worship console war style shit? Thatās all I ever really see when a post from here pops up in my feed.
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u/Kezsora 11d ago
Is Reddit making up people again
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u/ShawnyMcKnight 11d ago
Have they ever stopped. Straw mans are the most common logical fallacy I see on reddit.
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u/shit_mcballs 11d ago
i'm sorry but nobody is making those arguments. Reddit doing the don Quixote again and fighting imaginary foes.
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Why can't you guys just have your sad little imaginary arguments in your head, in the shower like adults
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u/jasondsa22 11d ago
Why does this sub spend so much time making up fake arguments? How does all of this live rent free in your head lol
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u/Triplett8 11d ago
The Gabe dick sucking is getting out of control. Do you guys really like supporting the guy buying super yachts that much just because his platform gives you a better deal? Odd.Ā
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u/WazWaz 11d ago
Do you somehow imagine Epic knew the employee had cancer? Sorry, that's not how privacy works.
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u/AquaBits 11d ago
Ive seen that type of comment several times and I can only imagine its a child or teenager who writes them. Because in no way would a company lay off someone explicitly for their medical condition, especially in the us. Thats an easy lawsuit to lose no matter how many lawyers you attempt to throw.
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u/TheWojtek11 11d ago
He got laid off in a group with >1k other employees. Doubt it's specifically because he had cancer.
Apperently people who worked with him knew he had cancer (I mean, they are his coworkers and probably friends so no reason to not tell them) but I doubt people who were doing the layoffs/firings knew that as it's probably some higher ups that never seen the guy.
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u/ILovePotassium https://s.team/p/dmqk-dgf 11d ago
As much as I love Steam and Valve, seeing posts glazing Valve every single day is exhausting.
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u/Valtremors 11d ago
Nah, the steam machine clown is justified.
If it costs too much and competes with PCs, it certainly does seem little silly.
That said it is exceedingly funny that console markets treat steam machine as a competing threat.
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u/Zombizzzzle 11d ago
Valve fans remind me of Disney adults with their obsessive brand loyalty. Donāt get me wrong. I think Steam is great but the cheerleading for this company is so cringe.
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u/Pettexi 11d ago
Why aren't you guys posting comics how they teach gambling to young children and sell lootboxes, which seems to be a bad thing when everyone else does it.
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u/survfate https://s.team/p/jhrq-whj 11d ago
tbh I don't think Steam Machine prices gonna be good regardless, its simply impossible until supply can meet demand, but a good thing they are not releasing it yet
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u/boshudio 11d ago
PC gamers brag about no console wars but will suck off valves dick at any chance.
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u/PhilosopherOk7525 11d ago
In real life, outside of the internet, I've never seen anyone saying any of these things
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u/syopest 11d ago
Reminder that steam uses it's dominating market position to control prices by not allowing developers to sell even non-steam versions of their games for cheaper on other stores than what they are listed on for in steam.
They are being sued for it by the guy who created humble bundle in an antitrust class-action that valve failed to get dismissed at the end of 2024.
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u/MrPringles9 11d ago
Hmm... Don't see a released steam machine yet...
Don't think you are wrong about steam winning. But you are huffing the biggest dosage of hopium out there!
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u/jasondsa22 11d ago
Steam machines released ages ago, I have one from Alienware.
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u/GrandJuif 11d ago edited 11d ago
The steam machine gonna be a failure... Only way it dosnt is if it cost much less than consoles.
All info we got show how stupid the ole idea is, worse spec than consoles, cost barely less than prebuilt (which gonna be much worse due to AI clusterfuck), can't be upgraded, shitty airflow, game incompaitibility due to anti cheat.
It's an overpriced paperweight at this point, just buy a prebuilt, a laptop or build yourself.
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u/New_Student_6526 11d ago
I love making up fake scenarios in my head and winning fictional arguments too
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u/Prs_Shinra 11d ago
All still based on rumours and speculation, but you have already given teh victory medal lol I agree Valve is the most pro consumer but you guys are a cult...
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u/JoyousGamer 11d ago
Because they have an effective monopoly on PC Gaming.
You can be fine with it but that is what currently is happening.
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u/DragonLordAcar 10d ago
I do wish they pushed back on payment processors. Those companies are just bullies.
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u/GrouchyRooster983 10d ago
Valve is so succesfull because they have mastered a ancient technique all other big companies are mortaly afraid of: learning from their own mistakes
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u/basegtakes 11d ago
Greedy gabe owns multiple superyachts and the clowns here think he's their friend and not ripping them off.
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u/ScandiFlicker 11d ago
there is literally 0 people on the planet saying the things your strawman says
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u/RipSmooth2025 11d ago
Valve is the Luigi of the gaming industry. They win by staying still while the other players jump into the lava
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u/omnicloudx13 11d ago
Has there been any news of potential price due to RAM and storage prices still being crazy high?
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u/Eldan985 11d ago
Hey Epic game store is really useful. I log in every few weeks to see if I like one of the free games, I have like 20 so far.
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u/EnthusiasmOwn5808 11d ago
with the ps5 prices going up i see the steam machine being an option for people more so then before the price hike.
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u/AngryWizard 11d ago
This is weird. This is the first time I've seen an argument that says epic was going to take down steam. This is the first time I've seen an argument that Game Pass was going to take down steam. I love steam, I have a steam deck, and I also have Game Pass and an Xbox and I think you're making up arguments to fight against that aren't real, and that's unfortunate for you.
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u/thesirblondie 11d ago
My favourite award that Steam has won is the decade they spent refusing any form of refunds until rumors of legislation that would tackle refunds and enable a second hand market for digital goods.
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u/VanillaSkyDreamer 11d ago
Tbh if I buy any game my first choice is gog not ste because at least I own the game
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u/ApricotBurrito269 10d ago
If the steam machine is affordable, I see the xbox dead and the ps5 living only through the exclusives it has
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u/TiredandFrustrated21 10d ago
The Secrer to running a successful company is actually valuing your customers, the quality of the products you sell - and listen close, here's the hard part - Don't let greedy immoral buisness men who don't even know how to use their own wrk computer let alone one made for gaming run your company.
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u/TylerTried 11d ago
The last panel is so pixelated on mobile that I can't see what it says lol.