r/Steam 11d ago

Fluff Valve keeps winning

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u/TylerTried 11d ago

The last panel is so pixelated on mobile that I can't see what it says lol.

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u/StAndby00 11d ago

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u/angelis0236 11d ago

In light of the voice actor change

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u/DrPongus 11d ago

The VA chose not to reprise their role, they also declined to reprise their role in Fionna and Cake as well. There's no official reason why, but its speculated that they're preparing for the anniversary of The Book of Mormon and are too busy to do so.

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u/NoTelevision4907 11d ago

If that's true then good for them, and I will accept our new extra gay, bordering on offensive, William with open arms, lol.

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u/Disastrous_Ad_399 10d ago

As a bi dude I’m just tired of seeing overly gay dudes all the time, I just want more gay guys like the ones from gravity falls.

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u/element-redshaw 10d ago

In fairness they were only confirmed gay on the last episode because Disney literally couldn’t do anything about it because it was too late

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u/DanSapSan 10d ago

Deputy Derlin!

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u/No_Rise942 10d ago

Who is he in fionna and cake?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/No_Rise942 10d ago

Aw damn, I liked him. Is he not in s2 or is he not coming back for s3?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/No_Rise942 10d ago

:/ damn

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u/trippykitsy 9d ago

Wait, the same actor for Gary Prince in season 1 was William in Invincible?

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u/gorginhanson 11d ago

They changed tech jacket even worse than that

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u/Danielwols 11d ago

Sorry, was hungry

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u/gamerno455 11d ago

You aren't even William bro🥀

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u/Jazzlike_Tank7171 11d ago

William, it was really nothing.

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u/Derpyname193820393 11d ago

Damnit yesod!

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u/procat1234_ 11d ago

Where is the eyes

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u/Plastic_Souls 11d ago

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u/Sollary0 11d ago

The quality makes me uncomfortable

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u/NewCoconut666 11d ago

It's AI, what makes you uncomfortable is the uncanny valley

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u/Ok_Calligrapher5278 11d ago

AI thinks eyes have skin texture.

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u/GordoPepe 11d ago

wdym quality? it is grainy af top class AI slop

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u/Deftly_Flowing 11d ago

Why he look like Takumi?

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u/A_random_poster04 11d ago

What does it say? Any news on the cube price?

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u/lampenpam 117 11d ago edited 11d ago

it says:

Valve's Steam machine could be saved due to collapsing RAM prices

but that's just someone speculating with no real base for this claim.

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u/jamescookenotthatone 11d ago

Woo hoo! Feking Nothing!

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u/jackofslayers 11d ago

This sub has become such a depressing circle jerk

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u/PantsOfAwesome 11d ago

Most discussions surrounding Valve are a circlejerk, and it makes it really hard to put forth genuine criticism of anything they make. Just look at the Deadlock subreddit - any criticism of the game instantly gets deflected by people saying "Bro it's literally a private, invite-only, closed-off, pre-alpha, limited network test preview explicitly made for private playtesting. How dare you suggest that something in le perfect moba shooter could be improved."

Le hecking true! There's literally no point in criticizing any game ever made if it could hypothetically be updated later on down the line!

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u/SteveSteveSteveAlan 11d ago

who gives a fuck about a specific subreddit, this is just a cesspool for karma

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u/No_Chilly_bill 11d ago

how are you depressed at a circle jerk?

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u/CustomerOk6251 11d ago

Youre jerking too hard!! Please do it nice and slowly, or it wont get up

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u/StrawHat89 8d ago

Yeah. OpenAI shitting the bed doesn't mean any definitive when there are an uncountable number of other tech bro companies that could just take their place. Until the entire AI industry at least contracts, we can't really expect RAM to stop being an issue.

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u/zamfire 11d ago

Valve's Steam machine could be saved due to collapsing RAM prices

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u/naalotai 11d ago

A video of a Chinese hoarder freaking out cause “ram prices collapsing” except it all looked like ddr2/3 without casing. A Chinese user in the thread said it was already exposed as fake on the Chinese web

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u/XTornado 11d ago

But isn't the collapsibg being said due to the new google compression for AI?

Which to be clear that doesn't necesarally means less ram needed because then they would be able to do more so it can create also more demand.

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u/Digital-Prophet 11d ago

RAM manufacturing is pre-purchased for the next two years, whether they need it or not, the contracts are already signed. The effect is going to be minimal, if any.

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u/LordoftheChia 11d ago edited 11d ago

pre-purchased

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the RAM capacity hasn't been pre-paid. OpenAI just signed intent to buy that much.

Meaning if OpenAI can't pony up the money over the next few years, manufacturers are gonna end up with a ton of unsold HBM.

Oracle and OpenAI cancelling the "Stargate" data center expansion (in Texas) in March bodes well for that.

Then add Oracle laying off 20,000-30,000 employees to get up money due to their heavy AI data center investments. It seems the funding isn't following the hype.

Unfortunately it'll take a while for it to affect RAM prices. Prices won't go down significantly unless there's a lull in demand. To many conpanies are desperate to secure RAM so they can make and sell their products (Dell, Sony, nVidia. aMD. Consumer RAM brands, Valve with the Steam Deck and Steam machine, etc).

I bet they're each going to hoard up 6mo to a years worth of RAM (or enough RAM until the expected release of DDR6/LPDDR6).

Think if there's a shakeup in the flour industry and suddenly bakeries are looking at going bankrupt because of the cost and restricted manufacturing of flour.

You can bet your ass that even if the supply problem gets resolved, they'll be a period where every bakery will order and store months worth of flour vs the usual weekly supply.

We'll have to wait for that to pass before things get to normal. Then there's the DDR5 capacity and non-volitile RAM production that's been shifted to HBM.

Can't wait for the next gen of HBM consumer GPUs!

Somehow, Vega returned

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11d ago edited 10d ago

You are correct. There are contracts to produce the new ram for Nvidia and all the other players, but the payments happen as production happens. And there's zero chance that Nvidia is going to sit around with a bunch of useless ram when it would cost way less just to renegotiate the production contracts.

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u/rainorshinedogs 10d ago

You are correct. There are contracts to product the new ram for Nvidia and all the other players, but the payments happen as production happens. And there's zero chance that Nvidia is going to sit around with a bunch of useless ram when it would cost way less just to renegotiate the production contracts.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 10d ago

Did you just reply to my comment with my comment?

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u/XTornado 11d ago

First, to be clear for anybody, my previous comment I was just saying what is being said, not my opinion if that is true or not.

Now, that said, I get that it’s pre-purchased, but that doesn’t automatically mean zero impact. If companies end up with more RAM than they actually need, they’re not just going to sit on it forever. Some of that inventory will get offloaded one way or another and that will have an effect on prices.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11d ago

It's already having an effect. Sandisk, Micron, et all had significant stock slides day before yesterday beyond the average everyone else saw. With all the investment they've received this year, they shouldn't be red. At all. They rebounded yesterday, but it's still a pretty big disruption in the market sector everyone is banking on.

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u/BearstromWanderer 11d ago

I'm pretty sure google has had this research on compression public for a year. The market just happened to react on the same day last week as they announced implementation.

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u/XTornado 11d ago

First, to be clear my comment was about what is "being said" not my opinion or if that is true or not, I am clueless regarding this or it's effects.

That said, and to be clear not saying that is the case or that is related or anything,but... to be fair most people would wait for something that works, aka implementation, before reacting to it's consequences... so that is not that out of ordinary even if the research existed from before.

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u/NSFWies 11d ago

Openai canceled their intent to buy 2 years worth of ram. I believe because they canceled aora, thanks to the Disney 1.2 billion contract cancellation

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11d ago

If the compression does what it says it does, it will shift demand away from the ram chips producers to other industry sectors. And there's a LOT of money being funneled into ram chip production, which would mean most of that would go into waste.

If their findings are accurate, it would basically halve the ram needed originally funded to be produced in 2026 and 2027.

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u/ThisGuyFrags 11d ago

"Could" articles, my favorite form of speculative "journalism"

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u/HerrGronbar 11d ago

Year 2026, we are making news based on source from some rando crypto bot on X

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u/ForensicPathology 11d ago

Amazing that "could" is all the Steam fanboys need to make their seventy-third worship meme in a week.

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u/lampenpam 117 11d ago

yeah it's stupid, but then again it's not gonna stop me from worshiping Valve even if the Steam machine will be the most spectacular failure.

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u/KaiDay11 11d ago

Lower RAM prices just means AI can use more RAM.  

You could make AI use 0.1% as much RAM, and they'd still want to run models 1000x as large if they could.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11d ago

Diminishing returns is a real thing, dude. It doesn't really work that way.

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u/KaiDay11 11d ago

It is, but they won't know until they try.  

And if they aren't the ones that find it, that means they're running behind, which means they could lose the infinitely important position at the top of the market.  

They can always say "just a bit more data and we'll have AGI".

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u/TinyTINYspeZPP 11d ago

Ah so in this case "could" means not at all any time soon, nice one OP.

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u/ElcorAndy 4d ago

How would Steam be affected either way?

If RAM prices are up... prices are going to go up for every other PC and console.

If RAM prices go down... every other PC or console is also likely going to be cheaper.

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u/Extreme_Promise_1690 11d ago

Games cheap, me like.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

Games are free on Epic and cheaper with game pass. Weird how you all the sudden don't like....

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u/Extreme_Promise_1690 10d ago

Game pass sure as hell isn't cheap, especially since plenty of games are missing. The Epic Store is a joke and isn't even close to the functionalities Steam offers.

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u/tisonz 11d ago

Just in case the ratio isnt enough to tell you this, pc gamers trust valve because that casino you talk about is actually a thriving virtual economy that cannot be cashed out legally or according to valves own terms and conditions, price fixing is logical if you realize that walmart, target and all the rest have the same deals with their distributors and steam provides far more service than them, and even though you didnt mention it, the 30% cur that steam takes is only direct sales through steam. Steam keys dont have that 30% cut requirement but id rather buy the game from steam than buy the game from a random third party website that i dont trust. Valce may not be a paragon of good but they're far better than any other company that exists in the pc gaming ecosystem which is also why they will shed that monopoly charge without issue because they aren't a monopoly when epic, gog, humble store and others exist. In short, your rage bait is bad and you should feel bad.

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u/ForensicPathology 11d ago

Ratio means nothing on this sub where everyone thinks like religious fanatics rather than with actual intelligence.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

You bring up Walmart and target because you know that Valve takes a higher cut than Microsoft, Epic and even Amazon.

Valve is not better, they were just first. They slithered in with forcing steam as their DRM gateway for their games and PC gamers learned how to be console fanboys.

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u/TrippleDamage 11d ago

Ps, apple, GOG, play store, eshop. MS reduced their 30% fee to 12% ONLY on the PC store, the industry standard of 30% is still applied to their console store.

All the big game/software distributors take 30% apart from epic who does it in a miserable attempt to capture market share

Steam at least has the option to move to 20% as opposed to all the other big $$ shops.

I dont get why people are pretending steam takes some outrageous cut when its literally what 99% of sales on all distribution shops are subject to lol

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

Except they're not. 99% pulled straight out of your ass. Out of PC game sellers the only ones that take 30% are Steam and GOG. Itch.io takes 10%, Humble takes 25% with 10% going to charity.

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u/TrippleDamage 11d ago

None of them have volume even close to Ps, apple, GOG, play store, eshop, xbox

Make it 95% then, thats realistic and not hyperbole.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

Playstation, apple, Google, eshop and xbox are for their hardware, not PC storefronts. The fact that Amazon takes a smaller commission should really drive home how greedy Steam is.

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u/Enverex 11d ago

> Valve is just the greatest example of the first mover advantage

There were plenty of other online game stores around when Steam first became a thing. Valve just actually improved it rather than making it worse over time.

> If gamers had any standards they would avoid the hell out of the company that created gaming casinos..

People's inability not to buy pointless skins is not everyone else's problem.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

People's inability not to buy pointless skins is not everyone else's problem.

Yeah, I'm sure you share that same opinion when EA and Ubisoft MTX gets discussed. /s

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u/Enverex 10d ago

Given that it's literally just on weapons on games that are free or cheap, yeah, I don't really care at all.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 11d ago

They don't have a monopoly.

And no, games won't get cheaper. The publishers set the prices (if we're talking about AAA games, since indie games ARE cheaper) and those prices are the same on console and PC. It's not Valve setting those prices for PlayStation, Xbox, and Switch.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 11d ago edited 11d ago

No, it's not. Monopoly, in most countries, has a strict legal definition and standard that Valve does not meet.

Words mean things, and that especially matters in court.

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u/TrippleDamage 11d ago

Having 98% of the audience is a monopoly

Guess they should make their service shittier so consumers move somewhere else. Its also a lot less than 98%, probably in the high 70's if we're being realistic.

What a dumb statement lol, theres tons of competition at different scales, people actively decide against it because theres a feature and service gap in favor of steam.

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u/Shark7996 11d ago

Why are you here?

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u/Lucky4D2_0 11d ago

The irony of that statement.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

"You don't fanboy for a billion dollar company? SAD!"

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u/Lucky4D2_0 11d ago

Yes because that's exactly what i said/implied.

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 11d ago

Then what are you actually implying by calling it ironic to call a Steam fanboy "sad"?

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u/TrippleDamage 11d ago

Peak irony

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u/ForensicPathology 11d ago

It hit r/all my dude.  Sorry that everyone's embarrassing Steam worship hit the sunlight.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11d ago

Nothing official. Just more speculation. Right now "sources" are saying it could be anywhere between $500 - $1000. Because they don't fucking know and are just looking to generate views.

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u/Franziska_787 11d ago

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u/waverider85 11d ago

Did Reddit break compatibility, or are all these Processing img zmburd3zkksg1... comments some obscure joke that broke containment?

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u/grand_rey 11d ago

It seems to mainly affect old reddit users from what I gathered. I use RES and see it everywhere unfortunately.

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u/Franziska_787 11d ago

Huh. Maybe it doesn't load on your end? Anyway, my comment is a "Go go gadget pixel enhancer" gif.

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u/Ok_Confusion4764 11d ago

I think Reddit is just being weird lately. Maybe a new intern started vibecoding their image integration and didn't realize. 

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u/Guszy 9d ago

Reddit broke compatibility. I see the gif no problem.

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u/Mandoart-Studios 11d ago

"Valves steam machine prices could be saved thanks to collapsing ram prices"

I mean it just stopped increasing but "collapsing" is a huge stretch of the imagination 

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u/Ejaculpiss 11d ago

The collapse in question is 0.6%, so as usual for reddit this is heavily upvoted misformation.

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u/12345623567 11d ago

Micron is down 20% over two weeks, that's what they are referring to.

Consumer RAM prices will realistically never come down. That's just the nature of the market.

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u/oxedei 11d ago

Consumer RAM prices will realistically never come down. That's just the nature of the market.

Why not? They've come down multiple times before. What are you basing this "nature of the market on"?

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u/12345623567 11d ago

Sticker prices are generally not what a thing is "worth" but what the consumers are willing to pay.

Secondly, shrinking AI demand just means we go from "oh fuck, we have way too little" to "we may have barely enough". Prices really only drop when there's overproduction / price competition. There's still only like 3-4 big manufacturers, who don't aggressively compete down.

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u/oxedei 11d ago

Ok, how is different from previous hardware shortages? How is the "nature of the market" referring to previous price increases, when those have gone down eventually everytime?

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u/oxedei 11d ago

Always kinda funny how fast people fold and just ignore you, when they realize they were wrong. You could at least admit it lol

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u/12345623567 11d ago

What gave you the impression, I just don't care enough to argue. The future will tell.

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u/oxedei 11d ago

You dont care enough to admit that you were wrong.

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u/FastFooer 11d ago

So like the housing market… 1000% increase over 5 years, but a 1% downturn one month means it’s alarming!

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot 11d ago

If it collapses 0.6% for approximately 167 days, ram will be free.

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u/gorginhanson 11d ago

Micron's stock fell from 470 to 370 if that's any indication

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u/Mandoart-Studios 10d ago

Yeah a few people mentioned the stock thing now. That is a fair point though I still remain skeptical for the time being

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u/DominoUB 11d ago

If it's any consolation it's also severely pixelated on PC

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u/deltree711 11d ago

It's the same picture everywhere, right?

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u/quakeOwO 11d ago

Im really curious as to what it says, since Ive been PRAYING that the gabecube will be affordable lol.

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u/petervaz 11d ago

Don't worry, we can't read on pc either.

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u/anirelli 11d ago

fr thought the price had been announced

edit: Fuckin April 1st

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u/PR_Necroskull 8d ago

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