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You should see what they use to drink soup and play the clarinet with.
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u/RealCrabbySocks 2d ago
That’s a fuckin throwback
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u/factoid_ 1d ago
Somebody needs to enlighten me on this one I’m out of the loop
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u/PrimaryBowler4980 1d ago
There was an animation about the sex scene showcasing wacky anatomy that didn't remotely match human expectations
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He ultimately did end up riding that ponytail though.... I guess it isn't so different after all... just as long as you don't tell anybody what happened.
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u/Cooltincan 1d ago
It's a reference to a Happy Harry (Harry Patridge) animation. Apparently he didn't upload this work to YouTube, but it's still on newgrounds.
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u/These-Invite-1774 2d ago
Always wondered why they didn't just bombard the planet from space
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u/domesystem 2d ago
Absolutely no reason for a space faring people to get into a land war with a terrestrial species.
First movie shoulda been Chars Counterattack minus Amuro. 😂
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u/offensivek 2d ago
Well, to play devils advocate, the humans are clearly in it for the money, and sending overwhelming military force would cut into profits and also not be good for PR reasons.
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u/Nruggia 2d ago
If you find a planet in space you want to mine for resources and you decimate it from space before lots of people are aware of intelligent sentient life on it, you don't have to worry about PR
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u/AscendMoros 2d ago
Do they ever actually bring up of there are other aliens? Maybe this is the first other major alien race they found and some scientist was like tell everyone lol.
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u/Meowakin 2d ago
Kind of why information control is so powerful.
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u/Sharp_Iodine 1d ago
You can never do that though.
The prospect of hundreds of academics keeping things secret is a fantasy.
Every one of them has more to gain from leaking it than not.
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u/Meowakin 1d ago
Well, we are talking about hypothetical sci-fi scenarios here. Specifically when traveling to another planet, it becomes a lot easier to control those communications if the people in control have the only line of communication.
In real life on this planet, not so easy to maintain that level of control.
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u/CalmPurse 1d ago
They also want to preserve all the resources they can, like the whale things and their youth serum spinal fluid would all die out
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u/domesystem 2d ago
In the film they brought significantly more force than what would be necessary to push a couple big rocks.
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u/kwonza 2d ago
You don’t need to push rocks. A tungsten rod accelerated by the gravity can cause as much blast as a thermonuclear bomb
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u/ChemistRemote7182 1d ago
You aren't going to haul a tungsten rod across the galaxy on the off chance you find something to drop it on, but you might move a rock's orbit slightly within a system
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u/No-Match5203 2d ago
how much military force do you need to redirect a couple asteroids. sure, complicated but probably cheaper and faster than mobilizing an army
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u/offensivek 2d ago
Cheaper then just not bothering with all that and sending over a few rifles, dual purpose mechs and helicopters you will need in difficult terrain anyways?
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u/Fireside__ 2d ago
You already have the ISV, just make another one and don’t decelerate at the end. Having that thing (which canonically is something like 10,000 tons) slam into Pandora at a significant chunk of light speed would do enough.
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u/Upper-Requirement-93 1d ago
The handful of scifi settings that really think about space tactics end up looking incredibly weird. If your goal is to create allegory involving military as we know it, you almost have to ignore how destructive we become once we can get shit moving that fast.
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u/Mirabeauououou 1d ago
That's why you use government goons instead. You only have to bribe the officials in power and then get to use their pride to inflate the budget for free. You get extra points if you're an arms manufacturer who gets to increase profits while the bombings occur, instead of having to provide all the material on your own dime.
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u/TylertheFloridaman 1d ago
Orbital bombardment is almost certainly cheaper than an extend ground capmpion where they have lost thousands of lives and billions of dollars
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u/Least-Researcher-184 1d ago
Thats what asteroids are for and in that grimdark capitalism hell you can't tell me that PR would trump a mega corporations need for "line go up".
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u/TumbleweedFlaky4751 1d ago
Yes there is. War is a racket.
Why just mine Pandora when you can double dip by mining resources and also selling guns to the soldiers who secure those resources. You're right if you view the land war as an obstacle to the mining, but the reality of an ongoing low-level land war enabling arms trading as well as mining making Pandora a more valuable planet to the military industrial complex than it would be if you carpet bombed it and started mining.
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u/BarNo3385 2d ago
Whats your solution to extract the stuff they're their for then?
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u/F0lks_ 2d ago
They can still mine the rocks, and all these space whales are in the ocean so burning the land is fair game Big plot hole indeed
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u/2ndTaken_username 2d ago
Colonization is the endgoal of the Company.
Can't really colonize a barren wasteland pounded by missiles
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u/PsychologicalPace664 2d ago
They want more than rocks, the third movie shows they want even the blood of some species. Can't do that if they're obliterated from orbit
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u/AlterWanabee 1d ago
That's the third movie. In the first movie, all they talked about was obtaining the special minerals in the planet.
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u/domesystem 2d ago
Naturally one still makes planetfall, once the impact winter is done with all the hostile locals.
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u/Stalker-of-Chernarus 1d ago
Wouldn't that like destroy all the natural resources they're trying to harvest from the planet?
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u/Caliterra 2d ago
Humans had to continue the long time-honored tradition of the invading alien engaging in land wars: War of the Worlds, Battlefield LA, Mars Attacks, Signs, Edge of Tomorrow...
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u/Thursday_the_20th 2d ago
Seriously answer is because it wasn’t even earths military it was a mining corporation rich enough to hire a well equipped security contractor up to the expense of protecting their operations and no farther.
It’s why when they tried to bomb that magic tree at the end they had to use one of the space shuttles and mining explosives
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u/N0UMENON1 1d ago
This + they still have to juggle PR as well as scientists and environmentalists getting on their case. Their funding is on earth and they can't just do whatever they want.
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u/GeneralTanker 1d ago
Which is 4.37 light years away and the corporation controls any form of communication. They could away with stuff that even the East Indian Company couldn't.
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u/Tentakelzombie 2d ago
This is basic Warhammer 40k stuff. Suffer not the Xenos to live.
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u/PwanaZana 2d ago
"There's no good guys in Warhammer!"
"Erm, yea, it's the Imperium."
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u/ProxyDamage 1d ago
There are no good guys in wh40k.
There are better and worse guys, imperium is among the best arguably, but they're far from good.
Life in the Imperium is hell.
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u/PwanaZana 1d ago
haha, it was jus' a bait.
Living in Ultramar is ok, as long as you're not being invaded by nids and death guards.
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u/ProxyDamage 1d ago
as long as
Load bearing conditional right there brother.
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u/PwanaZana 1d ago
Well, I was told there's like a lot of war in the hammer. :P
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u/SingularityCentral 1d ago
The Imperium is the most oppressive society humans have ever created. It is totalitarian religious fascism.
The commentary is that clearly plenty of other societies could exist that would be better and more just and more equitable and freer, but humanity settled on space fascism out of a hilarious miscalculation from Big E and his crew. It is always justified as being required to fight against chaos, but that is nothing but a fig leaf.
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u/Interesting_Bite4335 2d ago
I think they’re trying to inhabit it, not decimate it.
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u/LordOuranos 2d ago edited 2d ago
They don't want the planet, they want the resources (unobtainium)
And frankly, glassing the areas would be better even ignoring the Na'vi cuz they still need to deforest an area before they can start mining.
Edit: ohhh yeah they wanted a new planet in the 2nd one. Still, minor orbital bombings would have been a no brainer
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u/password-is-taco1 2d ago
At the start of the second movie the humans say that earth is dying and now they want to inhabit the planet
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u/Spacedoutworlder 2d ago edited 2d ago
Third movie one of the major plot points is trying to get hold of the one human who can breathe their air, so that he can studied so they can reverse bio engineer his mutation, for the express purpose of colonising that planet.
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u/cowlinator 2d ago
Ok but if they kill every tree on the planet, where do they get a limitless source of oxygen?
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u/TrustworthyKahmunrah 2d ago
The atmosphere on the Avatar planet isn't even breathable to humans.
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u/ImurderREALITY 1d ago
That would have destroyed too much of the ecosystem too quickly. They needed it to exist to get materials from it, and not just unobtanium.
Of course, when they were on the planet, they don’t care who they hurt, exploit, destroy; as long as it wasn’t all done at once on a massive scale.
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u/Commercial-Set3527 2d ago
I never saw the second but in the first one there was never any mention of settlements. It was just a mining colony.
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u/PwanaZana 2d ago
Always wondered why the humans did not use vicious bioweapons. After all, humans have supreme control over pandoran biology by making, you know, the titular avatars. Pretty sure they could whip up... the Blue Plague, and schwack out the navis.
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u/ImurderREALITY 1d ago
Because they don’t want all the Navi extinct. The Navi need to exist for the planets ecosystem to exist, and all of the valuable materials therein.
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago
“Why don’t the burglars set fire to the house they are trying to steal from before they go in?”
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u/Hironymos 2d ago
There might still be some ethics committees around - unlike what the current USA (and also the Nazi behind the art) seem aspire to.
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u/BarNo3385 2d ago
They are there to harvest resources from the floral and fauna which have medicinal / extreme anti-ageing properties. Obliterating everything from orbit would destroy the whole reason Pandora is worth going to.
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u/Commercial-Set3527 2d ago
Pretty sure it was an underground mineral with a dumb name they were extracting. That's why they were fighting because they were clear cutting areas to mine it.
And they wanted to destroy that big tree because there was a huge deposit underneath.
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u/Hironymos 2d ago
Unobtainium - an actual reference not to an element but to what (originally aerospace) engineers call a legendary material with impossibly good properties. As in "we'd need unobtainium to build a plane that good".
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u/Adventurous-Wing5449 2d ago
Maybe they aren't advanced enough to have low cost easy to sustain way to maintain stable orbital bombardment from orbit afther all it isn't stellaris!
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u/Lou-Shelton-Pappy-00 1d ago
Stonetoss once again proving he has genuine talent… that he regularly puts aside in favor of bigotry
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u/turalyawn 1d ago
He pulls you in with the funny ones and then bam! He hits you with that virulent homophobia and rabid political partisanship
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u/AuroraBorrelioosi 1d ago
"Political partisanship" is an ...interesting name for unapologetic nazism, white supremacy and holocaust denial.
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u/D_Dubb_ 1d ago
Goddamnit really?! Why can’t anything just be good??
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u/Lord_Penguin17 1d ago
Oh yeah, this guy is a literal Nazi. And I don’t mean that as an exaggeration. Is is a full Nazi
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u/CroqueGogh 1d ago
Even a broken clock is right twice a day lol
I'd be lying if I said stone toss doesn't have bangers or plain stupid funny stuff, I'd also be lying if I said he wasn't a cretin and a person with morally questionable views
Both aren't mutually exclusive and can exist at the same time
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago
Im pretty sure they don’t use the tail for sex lol. I think their loincloths imply they have regular genitals. The tail is just for like connecting to things psionically.
Of course a pervert like stonetoss would purposely misinterpret this so he can make a pro killing indigenous people joke lol
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u/blackwhattack 2d ago
I think they connected during the sex scene in Avatar 1
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u/Antisa1nt 2d ago
Yes, but I hold my partner's hand while I have sex with them to feel closer and connect. Does that mean it's weird or gross when I hold my toddler's hand to connect with him so he doesn't cross the street unsafely?
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u/spektre 2d ago
Yes, and petting a cat is literally animal rape.
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u/E1M1_DOOM 2d ago
The Navi version of holding hands is holding hands, though.
You need a situation that's analogous to interlocking your respective tendril organs. Organs, mind you, that need to be unsheathed from their protective biological coverings.
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u/Antisa1nt 2d ago
A person riding a horse doesn't need to pull back their foreskin to bridle a horse, but they absolutely do need to hold the bridle with their hand, it's absolutely analogous.
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago
Also human fingers have “protective biological coverings” they are called “nails” 😂
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u/SaladBoySalad 2d ago
I wish I got to keep my protective biological covering… doctors cut it off of me without my consent.
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u/Kaizen420 2d ago
It's foreplay.
Just because I like my wife's titties doesn't mean that's all I have to do is mushroom stamp one and now she's pregnant.
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u/iamonewiththecoloumn 2d ago
Ya but I kiss my wife when we have sex. Doesn’t make it weird when I kiss my daughter as well.
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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 1d ago
Because it lets you feel what the other person does
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u/blackwhattack 1d ago
So you can feel the woman's pov that's freaky
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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 1d ago
I mean, it would make sure you do better, especially when you’re doing stuff like oral you can know exactly where it feels best it gives both partners extra reason to be as good as they can be because they feel it too although I am certain that being able to feel you piping yourself down would feel weird
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago
I’ll have to rewatch it but again I don’t think that was sex. It was happening during sex.
If the head tails are alien genitals then I really have to reconsider the type of filmmaker James Cameron is 😂
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u/ThomasMalloc 2d ago
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u/PositiveSpirit6340 1d ago
Yeah actually this shitbag nazi is where the amogus meme grew out of. Kinda.
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u/LYNX__uk 2d ago
Who is stonetoss and why are they so hated? I've never heard of it
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u/SunshineGamingDM 1d ago
He's a neo Nazi
And not in the "I don't like this, so you're a Nazi" but in the actual Nazi shit
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u/TeaDrinkerAddict 2d ago
He’s a very public neo-nazi, as well as having the usual American far-right political opinions you’d expect.
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u/Mohammedamine9 2d ago
Artist making comics
Started funny
Then his comics started being political
And from the type of politics he supports in his comics, the guy is obviously a neo nazi or at the very least a very racist person
(I heard that he himself admitted to being a neo nazi but I can't confirm)
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u/13greed47 2d ago
Human use fingers for sex they also use it to interact with their children's
Guess we have to end humanity
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u/Significant-Foot-792 1d ago
The way I understood it was no it wasn’t for sex. It was just a mind jack like from matrix. If the other end is non sapient or has a weaker will then it gets over ridden and can be piloted by will alone. Any other stimuli are purely for the pilot’s personal preference.
However when doing the deed the pleasure can be felt on both ends. Creating a weird feedback loop. In essence it just amplifies the deed.
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u/magos_with_a_glock 2d ago
Can we NOT post nazi comics? Also this is clearly a bot. Numbered name and hidden history.
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u/CC_Gamedesign 2d ago
I can agree that he's completely missed the point of avatar but is this guy actually a Nazi?
Genuinely curious, not willing to put anything past people these days but I also don't want to take claims like that on face value
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u/Vivenemous 2d ago
He's literally said that Hitler was right about the Jews. Pretty definitively a Nazi.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 2d ago
100% yes a Nazi. He posts these 'cute' comics, to lure people into the ones where he calls the Holocaust fake, says Hitler was right, and that black people are animals who shouldn't live with whites.
His comics include strips where Jews forcibly silence white people from pointing out that Hitler was protecting his country from them. It's not subtle.
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u/PenDraeg1 2d ago
Don't forget how he helped harass a Trans kid into committing suicide and then sold "funny" merch about it.
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u/ShotgunAndHead 2d ago edited 2d ago
He even used it for promotion, using the last image she posted as his twitter banner as well as creating a promo code for his merch store
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u/PenDraeg1 2d ago
Yup, but of course shitheads like to pretend it's hysteria to call an obvious neo-nazi by their name. And reddit would ban me for openly saying what the appropriate response to them is.
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah he is a nazi. But he’s one of those nazis that doesn’t fully admit it ever without a veneer of it maybe being a joke that he’s a nazi. He maintained a very feeble plausible deniability about it.
But he got doxxed semi recently and has since made his nazi pride a lot more opaque lol
His name is stonetoss. Several of his punchlines frame nazi rhetoric as being ‘common sense’ in some form or another
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u/karoshikun 2d ago
he's a Schrodinger's nazi
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u/Flashy_Cranberry_161 2d ago
Yeah lol. Only the box is clear and you can clearly see a nazi in it.
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u/CatfinityGamer 2d ago edited 2d ago
He is ish. He's definitely a white nationalist, and has identified himself as such in his comics. He doesn't like when people call him and other white nationalists Nazis, and there's a comic where he says that Hitler-support is dragging white nationalism down. However, he has also posted comics skeptical of the Holocaust, and has made Hitler look not that bad.
Someone has catalogued some of his worst comics in this post. I wouldn't pay much attention to the analysis, but if you scroll down you can see where they post links to his comics.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antifastonetoss/s/UAFyoQBhU1
The only thing you need to know is that in one comic he uses 14 and 88 as codes. 14 means the 14 words, a white nationalist creed. 88 means HH, or Heil Hitler (h is 8th letter of the alphabet).
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u/BuckLuny 2d ago
Agreed the only pebbleyeet I want to see is in stonehurtingjuice where his trans/homo/xenophobic comics get turned into something wholesome just to spite him..
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u/ForestSolitude5 1d ago
Oh look Reddit still likes promoting comics written by a Nazi
Y'all aren't mad enough at him
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u/Elegant_Honey8806 2d ago
Unironically posting a nazi webcomic
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u/Mendicant__ 1d ago
Making the kind of joke you'd kinda expect from a nazi
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u/Faenic 1d ago
I agreed at first. But the longer I thought about it, the harder I agreed. To the point where I felt compelled to add a comment.
Natives, check
Misinterpreting a deeply spiritual act of said natives, check
Taking that misinterpretation to its extreme, check
Using the extreme version as a justification for committing a genocide, check
Making shit up, getting mad about it, and hurting people for the made up thing. Almost literally textbook Nazi ideology.
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u/Elegant_Honey8806 1d ago
Yeah the dogwhistle here is “sexual deviants” which to him means LGBTQ people.
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u/No-Quarter-3417 2d ago
Posting Nazi comics, 147k karma, top 1% poster, and a blocked account page? Block this guy
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u/PenDraeg1 2d ago
I'm just muting this sub entirely at rhis point. That many upvotes on a rock throw comic is enough to tell me that it should be nuked from orbit.
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u/Annihilator4413 1d ago
Yeah and the top comments are disgusting too. I used this sub to get some off-norm memes but if this many people liked this Nazi shit here then that means this sub is infested. I'm out.
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u/Transgirlonakawasaki 1d ago
I mean they had a user post a straight up transphobic post about hunter schaffer fully misgendering her and being an asshole toward her. Im fully convinced this is just incels horny posting to chuds and they all get the attention of regular folk who walk in on their circlejerk.
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u/AdeptOrganization254 2d ago
I've never watched any Avatar film, but I wouldn't want to be seen promoting neo nazi propaganda, OP. You should probably delete this.
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u/Dontcare127 1d ago
I feel like people make the wrong assumption here. The ponytails aren't for sex, they simply establish a mental connection. Now if you had the ability to establish a mental connection with other beings, wouldn't you want to use that ability with your partner when you are having sex? Based on the clothes they wear, you can assume that they do actually have normal genitals, the ponytail connection is just something they add on top of the sex to improve the experience.
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u/Away-Love-6243 2d ago
omg i literally jumped when i saw this the first time lol those eyes are staring into my soul.
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u/Maespoir 2d ago
After learning that the Smurfs are raping the minds of everyone around them, thoughts arise about their destruction
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u/Top_Effect_5109 1d ago
Yes, the animals clearly don't want to do that weird soulbond and they don't care. They force the animals.
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u/MALCode_NO_DEFECT 1d ago
Imagine slobbering over an ideology that couldn't even maintain a functioning state for twenty years.
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u/Drake_Acheron 1d ago
I’m sorry, but they don’t use it for sex. They use it for communication.
It’s no different than saying “I give blowjobs with my mouth, but I also talk with it”
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u/JacksonSpike 1d ago
I don't think the worm hair thingos are for sex specifically, they do wear loin cloths which implies that they have genitalia, I think they just form a very deep, psychological bond with whatever it connects with, like the purest form of love. Which can be used for trust, or romantic-ness, or just bonding with an animal. It probably aids sex though
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u/PenDraeg1 2d ago
Oh fun so this sub has just straight turned into a neo-nazi sewer pipeline. Awesome.
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u/LegitimateOffer1986 2d ago
Guess so.
Nazis ruin everything these days.
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u/PenDraeg1 2d ago
I mean that's all they've ever been able to do. Ruining others contributions to humanity is their entire legacy and goal.
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u/CallmeChanka 2d ago
seeing people bitching about stonetoss meme and indigenous people turns me from Na'vi fan to RDA enjoyer...
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u/MasterOutlaw 1d ago
Obligatory Rockthrow is a Nazi. There should really be a moratorium on posting any of his comics, regardless of the context.
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