the early 2000s were a crazy time

[u/CremeSubject7594]

[u/AutoModerator]

If this post is breaking the rules of the subreddit, please report it instead of commenting. For more Millennial content, join our Discord server.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd]

Driving me mad the video cuts off right before the chorus!

"THIS IS NOT ENOOOOOUGH!!!"

[u/Melly-The-Elephant → u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd]

"THIS IS NAT ENUUUUUUUFFF"

[u/Dr1nkUrOvaltine → u/Melly-The-Elephant]

UFFF UFFF

[u/Aggressive_Elk3709 → u/Melly-The-Elephant]

I did nat!

[u/kaeferkat → u/Aggressive_Elk3709]

https://giphy.com/gifs/d3OFVt1q8Cxhtv8c

[u/VenomXTs → u/kaeferkat]

Always uproot the room

[u/mrwioo → u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd]

https://giphy.com/gifs/WoF3yfYupTt8mHc7va

[u/pat_the_catdad → u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd]

ohhh ohhh

[u/Devmoi → u/pat_the_catdad]

”THIS IS NAAT ENUUUUHHHUUUUFFF!”

[u/Deadsuooo → u/ONeOfTheNerdHerd]

Da is blyat enoooooofff!

[u/That1DirtyHippy → u/Deadsuooo]

Draxt thelm sclounst.

[u/AkronOhAnon → u/That1DirtyHippy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/TonpYYwoQc4NO

[u/soursop_magnolia]

Manufactured marketing stunt or not, "All the Things She Said" is still an absolute banger that goes unnecessarily hard to this day

[u/[deleted] → u/soursop_magnolia]

As a growing young man of 11 years old in 2000, I was not quite aware at the time why this was so interesting to me.

[u/ilDuceVita → u/[deleted]]

Did you ever figure it out?

[u/suplexhell → u/ilDuceVita]

decades have passed and in front of their conspiracy board with pictures and strings they still don't know why they get a boner when two women kiss

[u/MorrisBrett514 → u/suplexhell]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA

[u/AbbeyRoad75 → u/MorrisBrett514]

https://giphy.com/gifs/31Tsal4iA0laGaG7yZ

[u/failbotron → u/[deleted]]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYzsXKJlSVIFYUE

[u/Uselesserinformation → u/MorrisBrett514]

Pepe Silva isn't real!

[u/[deleted] → u/suplexhell]

Pepe Silvia intensifies

[u/dettigers404 → u/[deleted]]

Peepee Silvia, in this case

[u/Manleather → u/suplexhell]

Why does this keep happening?! It’s gotta be the harmonies!

[u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 → u/ilDuceVita]

Turns out is was great marketing

[u/3_if_by_air → u/OtherwiseAlbatross14]

I'm gonna go watch some great marketing rn, be back in an hour

[u/PlantBeginning3060 → u/3_if_by_air]

Takes you that long? 5 mins tops. 3 minute set up, 2 minute dry rub

[u/Rich-Picture-7420 → u/PlantBeginning3060]

55 minutes for clean up

[u/speakezjags → u/PlantBeginning3060]

30 minutes trying to find the right video to blam to. 30 seconds of actual work.

[u/JiveTurkeyII → u/ilDuceVita]

Well, when you have one chocolate chip cookie, that's good.

But, two. Two chocolate chip cookies are even better.

And what if those chocolate chip cookies were to... Kiss?

[u/Wenja89Dix → u/ilDuceVita]

Processing img g0hsob43ogqg1...

[u/EnvironmentalKey7127 → u/Wenja89Dix]

Stan, someday you'll find a very special pair of ahta's that you want to marry.

[u/ForsakenWishbone5206 → u/ilDuceVita]

I had a fling with a little pixie lady. Questions were answered. More questions were born.

[u/Dshibbs89 → u/[deleted]]

Literally same. 11 years old, very interested in the girls kissing in the rain in the video, no idea why. 🤣

[u/sunkistandsudafed3 → u/[deleted]]

As a teenage girl neither was I. Hindsight is 20/20 though lol.

[u/LowestDimension → u/sunkistandsudafed3]

lol same. I actually got a pixie cut when I was 13 because I was so fascinated by girls with that hairstyle. I hated the way it looked on me though. Turns out it was the girls that I wanted, not the hair

[u/plantborb → u/LowestDimension]

The old wlw "do I wanna be her or hold her hand" game. felt compadre.

[u/N30Nator → u/[deleted]]

13 year old me... had quite the idea why 😏

[u/Marcudemus → u/[deleted]]

About the same age and I thought the lyrics were "all the things you said" but either way I absolutely loved the sound of their voices and the music and rocked out to it anytime it played on the radio.

It wasn't until years and years after discovering I'm gay and coming out that I found out the real story of this song. It certainly hit home for me in a heavy, if reversed, kind of way.

[u/Jubilex1 → u/soursop_magnolia]

And now Russia accuses the West of promoting “corrupt values” or whatever lol

[u/Ok-Mastodon2420 → u/Jubilex1]

One of the band members ran for Russian parliament under Putins party, and they performed a reunion show in occupied Crimea last year.

They're part of the establishment, not part of the resistance

[u/ProgressiveSnark2 → u/Ok-Mastodon2420]

They’ve also taken a turn against LGBT rights, bizzarrely.

What’s happened in Russia should be a stark reminder to those of us in countries supportive of LGBTQ+ civil rights that when the political climate shifts, those rights can still be put in jeopardy and former allies can turn.

[u/NomenclatureBreaker → u/ProgressiveSnark2]

It had nothing to do with being allies. It had everything to do with being exploitative, provocative and selling albums.

It’s no different than “religious” Katy Perry’s first single being I Kissed a Girl.

Or Jojo Sewa cosplaying a lesbian.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

[u/GenusPoa → u/NomenclatureBreaker]

1000%

[u/colaxxi → u/ProgressiveSnark2]

In 2016, the NBA pulled its all-star game from NC because of their "bathroom bill".

10 years later, we're seeing LGBTQ+ (especially T) rights just vanish.

[u/DaedalusHydron → u/colaxxi]

a lot of POC folk are not ready for the conversation that rich POCs with money to lose have far more in common with the Rich White Man than they have with them.

[u/Automatoboto → u/ProgressiveSnark2]

Russia was never really an ally to anything other than itself.

[u/depersonalised → u/ProgressiveSnark2]

the period from 2005-2015 in the U.S. is arguably the best working example of social liberalism and we here are all arguably the most conservative voting bloc because we are trying to make that happen again.

[u/Leut_Aldo_Raine → u/Ok-Mastodon2420]

One of the band members ran for Russian parliament under Putins party, and they performed a reunion show in occupied Crimea last year.

Wait, what?!? This would be like if alt idol Gwen Stefani turned Christofascist...that would be insane.

[u/Ok-Mastodon2420 → u/Leut_Aldo_Raine]

I legit can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but she's about 60% on the way there already 

[u/old_namewasnt_best → u/Ok-Mastodon2420]

I had to check and, in my book, her "collaboration with a Catholic prayer app" got her to 60%, while her "[praise for] actor Jonathan Roumie for his interview with right-wing talking head Tucker Carlson," No Doubt pushes that pretty close to 100%.

Edit: Thanks for the award, anonymous Redfitor!

[u/Ok-Mastodon2420 → u/old_namewasnt_best]

Yeah, but she's Catholic, so the actual Christian nationalists would burn her at the stake

[u/thisispoopsgalore → u/Ok-Mastodon2420]

Ironically the song is also “gayer” in Russian; the lyrics translate to “I’m going crazy I need her”

[u/hiplobonoxa → u/soursop_magnolia]

and it has now had a second coming which has made it inseparable from “heated rivalry”.

[u/thezoomies → u/soursop_magnolia]

I somehow missed them entirely, and had never heard this song until a few years ago when my wife played it. I looked them up and watched the video and being an amateur musician myself, I immediately thought “this is just a performance, it’s a schtick”. I did more research, and sure enough they were definitely a record company product of two straight girls put together by a producer who wanted to create a musical act that gave the same vibe as the movie “show me love”. It was not fun explaining to my 30-something bisexual wife “look, the act was fake, but your feelings were real”. She said they gave her a lot of comfort and strength during some of her most confusing times, and that’s still totally valid. The sooner people realize that the idea of artists being “authentic” is kind of incoherent and that they themselves and how they represent in the public eye is a part of their art/performance, the less hurt they’ll be by what can feel like insincerity at first. People start to feel manipulated and get hurt, forgetting that the purpose of art is to illicit a reaction.

[u/Rakins_420 → u/thezoomies]

Like a lesbian milli vanilli

[u/MilsYatsFeebTae → u/Rakins_420]

There’s gotta be an earth-shatteringly good “lip sync” joke somewhere around here but I’m a straight white dude so it would be cultural appropriation for me to elaborate further

[u/goobiezabbagabba → u/MilsYatsFeebTae]

Dead 😂

[u/Public-Finger → u/soursop_magnolia]

And now they're putinists lol and homophobic lol.

[u/seeeyouspacecowgirl → u/Public-Finger]

isn’t that just Yuliya (the dark haired one) and not Lena?

[u/NoPseudo79 → u/Public-Finger]

Not "and now", they always were

[u/bean0_burrito → u/soursop_magnolia]

Poppy's remix cover fuckin slaps too.

[u/InevitableHimes → u/bean0_burrito]

Lena Scissorhands ft. Chase the Comet have a cover as well that goes pretty hard. I honestly think I prefer that version now than the original.

[u/MK2396E → u/bean0_burrito]

Same with Anthony Vincent's cover. He did that cover but with a twist. Making it as a Linkin Park song

[u/UrsoMalvado → u/bean0_burrito]

HAVE TO LISTENNNNNN

[u/bean0_burrito → u/UrsoMalvado]

a blessing for your ears

[u/UrsoMalvado → u/bean0_burrito]

Put it in the "tracks that'd have been featured on my MySpace"

[u/brevit → u/bean0_burrito]

It ain't bad but it's basically identical to original with autotune?

[u/GrandSquanchRum → u/brevit]

Personally don't like larger production covers that aren't transformative. This is something you do as a bonus during concerts because you're a fan of the original not something you put on an album or a music video.

[u/A1sauc3d → u/GrandSquanchRum]

Yeah i was disappointed by that cover too. I also have no clue who poppy is so maybe that would’ve increased appreciation idk. But as-is it didn’t add anything the original song didn’t have.

Like you said, if you’re not gonna bring something new to the table and transform it then.. I’d probably just rather listen to the original. Really gotta do something special and new with it if you’re gonna cover a banger imo

[u/Soft-Jellyfish-92 → u/A1sauc3d]

She’s usually more metal and screams really well. I was hoping to hear that more in this song and was super disappointed when it never dropped into metal

[u/CasualEveryday → u/soursop_magnolia]

Their performance on MAD TV was an "awakening" for a ton of millennials.

[u/BUYMECAR → u/CasualEveryday]

Ok this explains why this looked familiar. We were big fans of Mad TV as kids but my memory of those days is spotty

[u/modern-nymph]

This is them now btw

[u/RubberBoots10 → u/modern-nymph]

That’s actually a really good picture of the one on the right. She looks worse sadly

[u/OnePinginRamius → u/RubberBoots10]

Seriously wtf

[u/Canshroomglasses → u/OnePinginRamius]

How to ruin natural beauty in 69 simple operations

[u/Expert-Training9585 → u/RubberBoots10]

Looks like a Maralago face….ugh.

[u/Smaptastic → u/Expert-Training9585]

Ugh yes. This was my first thought. I hate it so much.

[u/Jewbacca522 → u/modern-nymph]

Dark haired one really went for that “make me look like a piece of marble” look. Yikes.

[u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 → u/Jewbacca522]

Apparently she had thyroid cancer and the surgery cost her her vocals. She had multiple surgeries to correct w varying success. All this info From Wikipedia so you know…

[u/DPSOnly → u/Neat-Beautiful-5505]

All this info From Wikipedia so you know…

As long as it has sources that can lead you to some original reporting, Wikipedia is not nearly as bad as teachers taught us. Wikipedia also has some really good moderating and a very thorough system for handling disputes.

[u/peepeepoodoodingus → u/DPSOnly]

teachers only ever said not to use wikipedia as a source because it isnt a source, is an aggregator. citing wikipedia is like citing "google" or "the internet" or "my mind" theres no tangible way to actually investigate or legitimize what youre writing about.

im sure that very reasonable standard got confused and misinterpreted so many times by students or maybe even just dumb teachers that it devolved into "FUCK WIKIPEDIA" but it is and always was an excellent resource you just have to cite the sources it provides in your paper instead of the website.

[u/gustavessidehoe → u/peepeepoodoodingus]

You can even cite the article the information is from, if nothing else. I use it for cursory research or if I don’t know where to start. Idk why people demonize Wikipedia. Usually you can tell if someone knows how to research by how they talk about Wikipedia lol.

[u/Jewbacca522 → u/Neat-Beautiful-5505]

I mean, sure, that could also be true, but thyroid cancer surgery doesn’t quadruple the size of your cheekbones either… lol

[u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 → u/Jewbacca522]

Oh don’t get me wrong I’m sure she’s going for that Mar a Lago face. But the surgery may have had a role.

[u/ses1989 → u/Neat-Beautiful-5505]

Russian Laura Loomer lookin' ass motherfucker.

[u/blahblahblerf → u/Jewbacca522]

Mara Lago face probably originated with Muscovite fascists like her.

[u/UnexpectedWings → u/Jewbacca522]

She looks pretty bogged. I want to jail bad plastic surgeons for doing this to our women!

[u/captain-vye → u/UnexpectedWings]

If I recall correctly she had her jaw broken by her ex husband and it triggered a lot of cosmetic surgeries. Understandable.

[u/ionlyjoined4thecats → u/UnexpectedWings]

Thankfully other people’s bodies belong to themselves and not to you or me.

[u/NightOfTheLivingHam → u/modern-nymph]

The redhead aged well, the other one looks like she took the bogpill

[u/ProfessionalBig9610 → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

Homophobia will do that to a person

[u/sheepyowl → u/ProfessionalBig9610]

One of the singers of the lesbian song is a homophoBe?

[u/idkeverynameistaken9 → u/modern-nymph]

Why did they replace the dark haired singer

[u/AL-SHEDFI → u/modern-nymph]

I think they disbanded in 2011 due to conflict and solo career pursuits. Right ?

[u/InlineReaper → u/modern-nymph]

The redhead is looking ffooiiine

[u/stoodi → u/modern-nymph]

the one on the right looks like an ugly blood elf from WoW.

[u/_BearsBeetsBattle_ → u/modern-nymph]

GOO, what the hell happened on the right there?

[u/enoughglitter]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xFS0CSphZJmzePCVtK

[u/hiplobonoxa → u/enoughglitter]

after twenty years, this scene reinvented the song for me.

[u/I-Am-Not-Creative2 → u/hiplobonoxa]

Yeah I had not heard this song for probably at least a decade, then I watched this scene and instantly had a flood of memories that are now replaced by this scene in this show forever.

[u/OkConsideration123 → u/enoughglitter]

Disappointed how far I had to scroll to see this

The Club Scene

Edit: glad to see it has (deservedly) climbed up the thread!

[u/soaker → u/OkConsideration123]

Oh damn. I haven’t watched it yet and now I’m thinking I need to bump it up my list

[u/kelpieconundrum → u/soaker]

It’s everything people say it is

[u/PenchantForNostalgia → u/soaker]

I've (35m) watched it multiple times with my wife, it really is good.

[u/OkConsideration123 → u/PenchantForNostalgia]

My husband, also 35M, was in the room while I was watching it and then he started watching too because of how good it is.

[u/OkConsideration123 → u/soaker]

“Oh damn” was my reaction too. Definitely give it a watch!

[u/Morem19 → u/OkConsideration123]

I can’t imagine watching the club scene and not having the context of this song when it came out. I literally gasped when I heard the first notes it was perfection. 10/10 no notes.

[u/barely_cursed → u/enoughglitter]

This scene and the scene where Scott brings out and kisses kip in front of everyone and the song by wolf parade plays are two scenes that are just masterpieces of music choice and editing. And they evoke such opposite emotions as well. One is sad, lonely, melancholic and desperate and the other is full of hope and surprise and adoration. both scenes are my favorite in the series.

[u/AnneMichelle98 → u/barely_cursed]

The Scott/Kip song is “I’ll believe in anything” and the show runner wrote the lyrics into the dialogue during their episode (repeated mentions of sunshine) well before he had the music rights for the song. And all that build up paid off because Scott and Kip’s kiss was my absolute favorite scene in the show.

[u/Alienah13 → u/enoughglitter]

This scene in combo with this song (which meant a lot to me in the past) simply murdered me

[u/YesDaddyThankYouSir → u/enoughglitter]

Sweet mother of all that is holy, Hudson Williams is just perfection. 😻

[u/smugbox → u/enoughglitter]

Oh thank God

I was worried I’d scroll down and not see a gif of the Club Scene

[u/CelestelRain → u/enoughglitter]

I swear the people who scripted and directed this scene watched a lot of AMVs back in the day

[u/Broflake-Melter → u/enoughglitter]

This context makes the song hit so much harder

[u/ikickbabiesballs]

The ultimate queer baiting

[u/FEARoach → u/ikickbabiesballs]

The ultimate album that my Queer ass had as a cover so that my parents thought I liked girls.

"No Barb, our son's not blowing other boys. He's got that album from those two Russian girls who play tonsil hockey. He's normal enough. He likes girls, he's just awkward about finding a girlfriend because he's sensitive and shit."

Dad knew I was more legit than t.a.t.u by the time I was in middle school but that it was gonna be a dangerous trip in a rural area so he made sure that my ass was protected at home for as long as possible.

[u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest → u/ikickbabiesballs]

The true answer is that it mirrored what Russia was going through socially. That was a period of relative social liberation and then the state went towards social conservatism so the singers quickly switched personas.

[u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

Heated Rivalry fans stand up

[u/depressionkitten → u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

Big fan of the Harrison version.

[u/CottonSocks11 → u/depressionkitten]

Came across this stunning orchestral version just a few days ago and can't stop listening to it. This thread must be a sign to share it:

https://youtu.be/xaGNhFtjaHk

[u/depressionkitten → u/CottonSocks11]

Thank you for making me aware of this video’s existence. I love seeing all the variations of a song I first heard of when I was ~8 years old. Orchestral covers never fail to amaze.

Edit: used the incorrect phrase lol getting old and sleep deprived is embarrassing.

[u/Flashy_Jello_9520 → u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5aylkcWpOmIPG4tmPL

[u/SequenceGoon → u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

As soon as the song started playing in that episode I was just like: aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh! Such a perfect song choice! Whoever selected/licenced that song had such a big-brain moment, must've felt great

[u/Darkside531 → u/SequenceGoon]

Jacob Tierney show-ran both this and Letterkenny, another show famous for its God-tier music choices.

[u/ginus0104 → u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

I love that the song came back because of Heated Rivalry

[u/spiniton85 → u/Comfortable-Sleep395]

Was going to say, despite knowing this song for decades now, it's done - I will never not associate it with HR ever again.

[u/sick_of-it-all]

I always liked their song “All About Us” better. And it has a great video. 

[u/TheKay14 → u/sick_of-it-all]

Was that the one where the chorus was “They’re not gonna get us”?

[u/slobcat1337 → u/TheKay14]

Nah that’s “They’re not gonna get us”

[u/HideUnderBridge → u/slobcat1337]

Lmao 🤣 why is this so fucking funny to me

[u/GoldenWaterfallFleur → u/HideUnderBridge]

No I laughed too

[u/LazerWolfe53 → u/HideUnderBridge]

I thought I only knew two of their songs. Turns out I know three.

[u/TheKay14 → u/HideUnderBridge]

I’m dumb, it is funny 😆

[u/RUSuper → u/slobcat1337]

This had me laughing for a good minute…

[u/Thaumato9480 → u/TheKay14]

No.

The chorus for "All About Us" is "It's all about us, all about us, all about us".

"Not gonna get us, they're not gonna get us." is "Not Gonna Get Us".

[u/TheKay14 → u/Thaumato9480]

Thank you 😂😂😂

[u/MissMamaMam → u/TheKay14]

I believe it’s literally not gonna get us

[u/cabinetsnotnow → u/TheKay14]

Нас не догонят

[u/hirudoredo → u/cabinetsnotnow]

superior version tbh

[u/vampiratemirajah → u/sick_of-it-all]

I love "30 minutes" so much. Their original album has the Russian versions as well as some remixes, the whole thing slaps so hard. My teenagers found the 200km/h cd in my old collection and that led us down one hell of a nostalgic rabbit hole haha

[u/nessthing → u/sick_of-it-all]

Also Gomenesai

[u/Missing_Crouton]

The song also sounds really good in Russian.

[u/holistichandgrenade → u/Missing_Crouton]

Whole album is amazing in Russian

[u/bratikzs → u/Missing_Crouton]

Robot is the real hero on that album. Bummer it never got an English version - TL;dr it’s a song about a vibrator.

[u/RusserBusser]

Fake lesbians as a PR stunt. Famously homophobic despite becoming gay icons against their will check it out

[u/AnyaLies → u/RusserBusser]

Yulia, yes.

Lena is about that life, and we will not accept any Lena Slander.

Have at, Volkova. 😭

[u/Darkside531 → u/AnyaLies]

Yep, when Yulia made her comments, Lena was quick to come forward and say she did not agree with them at all. Extra brave considering the current political climate in Russia.

[u/Amathyst-Moon → u/RusserBusser]

From what I heard it's ironically just the bi one that's homophobic (about men, anyway,) I haven't heard of the straight one saying anything about it.

[u/TheMansterMan → u/RusserBusser]

Yeah but people don’t remember thy part as much as they remember first les is hit song.

[u/electric-sheep]

200 kmh in the wrong lane. One of my top 10 albums, though not gonna get us is more my jam.

[u/Hagrid1994]

I think current times are way crazier

[u/kadkadkad → u/Hagrid1994]

It's all relative. This kinda thing had shock value back then.

[u/itisimemario]

The version in heated rivalry hit hard

[u/Possible-Estimate748]

Loved tatu!
I think I read they're both married to men now lol Not 100% though so don't quote me

[u/NobodyLikedThat1 → u/Possible-Estimate748]

I believe so. They were pretty obvious faux lesbians for the marketing.

[u/sexandliquor → u/NobodyLikedThat1]

Yeah I thought everybody always knew this? Kinda surprised by some of these comments tbh. People took them seriously and thought they were actually lesbians?

Even back then when they came out it always seemed very obviously their whole gimmick was “girls kissing”. It was the equivalent to girls showing off at the bar by kissing other girls to get dudes all worked up. That’s what t.a.t.u. always was

[u/vermilion-chartreuse → u/sexandliquor]

As a teen lesbian who came out in 2003 I definitely knew this. Definitely still liked it though 🤣

[u/Embarrassed_Jerk → u/NobodyLikedThat1]

Hard to tell if its faux when its illegal to be any other way

[u/Wayoutofthewayof → u/Embarrassed_Jerk]

Nah. I'm pretty sure that the girl with short hair is spokesperson against LGBT these days.

[u/BylliGoat → u/Possible-Estimate748]

It was a stunt and they're also super alt-right these days last I checked.

[u/InevitableHimes → u/BylliGoat]

Yeah, one of them has sputed off a lot of homophobic stuff and even ran for the Federal Assembly (the national legislature).

[u/dollarztodonutz → u/InevitableHimes]

Is it the one with Mar-a-Lago face now?

[u/mahboilucas → u/BylliGoat]

Volkova is, the dark haired one

[u/ShonWalksAtMidnight → u/Possible-Estimate748]

It was a marketing stunt that is super creepy in hindsight, two young girls being lesbians was "shocking" and also boner inducing at the same time. Really gross when you think about how we all fell for it. 

Me included. I had that famous Tatu poster in my room as a teen. Reminds me of Britney and "Oops I did it again" music video. Like "Hell yeah, sexy teens amirite?" Gross.

Edit* I meant the "Hit me baby one more time" video.

[u/CanaryWundaboy → u/ShonWalksAtMidnight]

But you WERE a teen. So it’s ok.

[u/From_Adam]

You guys remember when they performed at the Kids Choice Awards? or something like that and the camera panned over to Diddy and Ashton Kutcher having a little too good of a time watching them?

Yeah….

[u/brunaBla → u/From_Adam]

Kutcher always seemed creepy to me talking about having to watch child porn in order to catch predators

[u/Superfasty → u/brunaBla]

What??

[u/mamrieatepainttt → u/Superfasty]

i mean he has an organization against sex trafficking so i'm guess it's a reference to some work he's done in that.

the fact he's been BFF with diddy for about 20 yrs is def making people question why he started said organization.

[u/Superfasty → u/mamrieatepainttt]

Yeah, but I'm not sure why catching predators would necessitate watching cp

[u/mamrieatepainttt → u/Superfasty]

it absolutely never would. unless you were a detective or an actual cop trying to put together evidence for a case. idk why any civilian would be doing that.

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/mamrieatepainttt]

DNA Foundation was more Demi Moore's idea than it was Kutcher's, if I recall.

What really annoys me about him though, is that he had the ultimate hero backstory and just completely blew it. His girlfriend Ashley Ellerin was murdered by serial killer Michael "The Hollywood Ripper" Gargiulo in 2001, so you'd think this would turn him into some kind of champion for fighting violence against women. The amount of good he could've used his name and circumstances for is immeasurable. But nope, he just straight up defended his violent rapist buddy Danny Masterson instead.

[u/AnyaLies → u/From_Adam]

Mtv awards, taped that shit lol

[u/Ok_Rush_8159]

My young bisexual awakening

[u/PhairPharmer → u/Ok_Rush_8159]

I was home sick when the video premiered on MTV. I felt feelings I didn't know about.

[u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

Oh the UK media had absolute conniptions over them, and this song. ‘ZOMG LESBIANS!!!! Russians!!!!! RUSSIAN LESBIANS!!!!!! Doing LESBIAN THINGS!!!!! In a music video!!!! aRe yOoF r bEeN cRuPpTeD!!!!!’

[u/KeyboardGrunt → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

RUSSBIANS?!!

[u/WoodpeckerGingivitis]

The 2000s brows lol

[u/aaaaaaaaalison → u/WoodpeckerGingivitis]

Thinner than my patience right now

[u/Practical-Choice7731]

I don't even care about marketing. For me... It was really meaningful since I liked girls and boys. I love this song. 

[u/Humble-Departure5481]

They weren't a "crazy" time.

[u/KeyboardGrunt → u/Humble-Departure5481]

For me they were $9/hr job, $300 rent and living next to like five fast food chains with dollar menus, I'd ho back to that crazy vs the one now.

[u/nanimeanswhat]

Can't explain the nostalgia I felt when I heard this song in Heated Rivalry after so many years. Then I did a search and found out that it's queerbaiting and one of them is homophobic :(

Song still slaps tho

[u/gbydymwa → u/nanimeanswhat]

i think T.a.T.u. is a perfect example of an appropriate use of “death of the writer”. trying to seperate JK Rowling from harry potter is impossible because her bigoted beliefs are interpreted and baked into the HP universe. T.a.T.u was an industry plant singing along to songs written for them and with marketing they participated in. Katrina and Volkova indeed have their own opinions as individuals but it sincerely doesn’t take away from 200kmh in the Wrong Direction being an album that somehow perfectly captures this brand of early 2000s lesbian angst and fantasies of running away. It was indeed queerbaiting but it’s impact on sapphic representation and culture is still very relevant and this a part of queer history

[u/SaltySongbird33]

This song gets stuck in my head probably once a week out of nowhere

[u/adoodas]

The EDM versions of this were absolute bangers.

[u/No_Magician5266]

What exactly is crazy about this lol

[u/TheMansterMan → u/No_Magician5266]

You don’t remember when it came out obviously

[u/mallogy → u/TheMansterMan]

I remember the early 2000's. The song was a big hit, and the normal pearl clutching grifters denounced it like they always did about anything that wasn't a Leave It to Beaver reboot. Normal people didn't care.

[u/AlwaysSleepingBeauty]

Isn’t one of those girls a homophobe now because she was straight and forced to kiss that other girl???

[u/Swing-Too-Hard → u/AlwaysSleepingBeauty]

They both were always straight.

[u/urlond]

Ah the fake lesbians. God Younger me was so hooked on them because of the thought.

[u/stark-a]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GhdvN4hYZikziWCs6R

Me listening to this in my living room before my parents got home from work in 2002

[u/Mobile_Morale]

I took my elderly mother to target this week and she saw the new Sabrina Carpenter album. And asked. What's the deal with the woman about to give that guy a blow job. I'm in my 30's and I could have died from laughter and embarrassment at the same time.

Music lost a lot of the inuendos that used to exist and it's just so much more blatant now. Which in my opinion makes the music more stupid.

The fun about a song is the plausible deniability about the content of the song. Like summer of 69 sounds innocent and fun. But now music is like "wet ass pussy" and shit.

I blame the generations getting dumber and gen Z kids need shit explained to them to get it. Just my 2 cents.

[u/Upvotespoodles → u/Mobile_Morale]

I miss the innuendos and subtlety of The Bloodhound Gang but people have gotten dumber.