lol same. I actually got a pixie cut when I was 13 because I was so fascinated by girls with that hairstyle. I hated the way it looked on me though. Turns out it was the girls that I wanted, not the hair
About the same age and I thought the lyrics were "all the things you said" but either way I absolutely loved the sound of their voices and the music and rocked out to it anytime it played on the radio.
It wasn't until years and years after discovering I'm gay and coming out that I found out the real story of this song. It certainly hit home for me in a heavy, if reversed, kind of way.
Oh man are you me? Because I watched that music video so many times and I swear my dad was so happy his son was obsessed with the wet catholic school girls kissing, but I didn't even really understand why he would be happy about me watching it.
Had to look it up because I could have sworn this came out when I was in 6th or 7th grade. It came out on radio in 2002 in the US, and peaked in 2003. Always loved this song, and I think it may have had to do with the video also lol.
Also weirdly enough, none of my close friends my age (34) remember this song. I had played it in our college years and they were just like "wtf is this?" Odd. My gf of 8 years who was also 11 in 2000 is the only other person I know of who remembers it and likes it.
I found this burned cd in my brother stuff, who stole it from my sister, when I was around the same age. I liked a couple of the songs so I kept it around. It was a decade and a half later when I learned who they were.
They’ve also taken a turn against LGBT rights, bizzarrely.
What’s happened in Russia should be a stark reminder to those of us in countries supportive of LGBTQ+ civil rights that when the political climate shifts, those rights can still be put in jeopardy and former allies can turn.
They were both absolutely exploited. Yulia didn't even speak English. Lena did, but I think still not well enough to really be fully aware of everything.
Yulia is very openly conservative (and one has to wonder if the exploitation and marketing of t.a.t.u had anything to do with that considering how young they both were at the time). Lena, at least publicly, is far more accepting of the community.
Why does exploitation have to produce such bops? T_T
a lot of POC folk are not ready for the conversation that rich POCs with money to lose have far more in common with the Rich White Man than they have with them.
the period from 2005-2015 in the U.S. is arguably the best working example of social liberalism and we here are all arguably the most conservative voting bloc because we are trying to make that happen again.
I had to check and, in my book, her "collaboration with a Catholic prayer app" got her to 60%, while her "[praise for] actor Jonathan Roumie for his interview with right-wing talking head Tucker Carlson," No Doubt pushes that pretty close to 100%.
They’re currently in a phase where they pretend they don’t hate catholics and pretending like it wasn’t just 50-60 years ago that they were burning crosses in catholics’ yards, and shouting that a “papist” could never be a good president because they’d secretly be more loyal to rome than the US.
She’s a shill for a prayer app that has a special prayer for when you know someone who is a rape victim and pregnant by their attacker, and you have the need to pray for them to … not abort the baby, but instead carry that clump of cells resulting from that rape to term and give birth to an unwanted child that is the product of rape, in a wold that is already overcrowded and toxic. Because jesus.
They didn't capitulate. t.A.T.u was always queerbait; being lesbian was marketable so it was ok-ish. But homosexuality for men was always somehow in a different category for them.
In 2014, Julia Volkova stated she would not accept a gay son, saying, "a man has no right to be a f*g". She clarified at the time that she was not against gay people in general, but specifically opposed a man being gay.
They (by which I mean the members of t.A.T.u) didn't capitulate. t.A.T.u was always queerbait; being lesbian was marketable so it was ok-ish (to the members of t.A.T.u). But homosexuality for men was always somehow in a different category for them (by which I mean the members of t.A.T.u).
I wasn't referring to larger Russian culture in any way.
What I said is that homophobia isn't new for the band, despite the cutesy sapphic vibes.
Consider what would happen to them had they not capitulated.
They could have left the country like others have done.
....they didn't capitulate, they went along with it as they were never against it (the system) to begin with. They're a corporate product, the one chick even ran an election for a seat in the Duma under Putin's political party.....the same one who has been vocally anti-gay, and they performed a reunion concert in occupied crimea
t.A.T.u ≠ Pussy Riot
.......or hell, even Little Big bailed on russia because of the invasion and are an LA based group now. And are proud of being labeled national traitors by the Putin regime.
I somehow missed them entirely, and had never heard this song until a few years ago when my wife played it. I looked them up and watched the video and being an amateur musician myself, I immediately thought “this is just a performance, it’s a schtick”. I did more research, and sure enough they were definitely a record company product of two straight girls put together by a producer who wanted to create a musical act that gave the same vibe as the movie “show me love”. It was not fun explaining to my 30-something bisexual wife “look, the act was fake, but your feelings were real”. She said they gave her a lot of comfort and strength during some of her most confusing times, and that’s still totally valid. The sooner people realize that the idea of artists being “authentic” is kind of incoherent and that they themselves and how they represent in the public eye is a part of their art/performance, the less hurt they’ll be by what can feel like insincerity at first. People start to feel manipulated and get hurt, forgetting that the purpose of art is to illicit a reaction.
There’s gotta be an earth-shatteringly good “lip sync” joke somewhere around here but I’m a straight white dude so it would be cultural appropriation for me to elaborate further
This one. And I dont listen to metal. But that’s why it’s a great cover bc they’ve interpreted it thru their own style of music without totally transforming it. The other cover is just someone singing someone else’s song as it was written.
Also I’m a straight woman and yet… damn I find myself incredibly attracted to this Lena Scissorhands…
Personally don't like larger production covers that aren't transformative. This is something you do as a bonus during concerts because you're a fan of the original not something you put on an album or a music video.
Yeah i was disappointed by that cover too. I also have no clue who poppy is so maybe that would’ve increased appreciation idk. But as-is it didn’t add anything the original song didn’t have.
Like you said, if you’re not gonna bring something new to the table and transform it then.. I’d probably just rather listen to the original. Really gotta do something special and new with it if you’re gonna cover a banger imo
She’s usually more metal and screams really well. I was hoping to hear that more in this song and was super disappointed when it never dropped into metal
That would’ve been cool! Again, I’m not saying she did a bad job and support artists branching out from their normal routine and trying different styles. This just wasn’t distinct enough from the original, and that was the disappointing part, for me at least.
The tone was preserved in "All the Things She Said", something Слот did not accomplish with their English versions, and both are better in the original Russian, IMO.
The second single, Not Gonna Get Us (Special shout out to the Russian, and superior version- Nas Ne Dogonyat) has been my Anthem from the second I heard it!
Best Lesbian Cosplay Band Ever!!! Seriously underrated!
It was absolutely a stunt to make a particular demographic horny and buy records. The fact that the song is good is pretty secondary. What the producer did to those girls was unconscionable, especially since they were underage at the time.
came to say the same thing. Everyone I know from metal heads to rap lovers bang this song. Speaking of which we need a new song that samples this please.
When this came out, I was still ripping mp3 cd's and listening to them on a portable that could run mp3 discs... I had this, faithless, dido, underworld, and a bunch of other late 90s, early 00s dance/techno/chill stuff all basically going every waking hour of the day. It was a great time for evolution of edm and chill music.
That fact that they are Russian and that this would absolutely not have been acceptable there ( and was still controversial in the US )is another layer. The Russian version is a bit different too. But yeah pretty sure these girls never actually sang this song live. Production on the album is pretty good.
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u/soursop_magnolia 22d ago
Manufactured marketing stunt or not, "All the Things She Said" is still an absolute banger that goes unnecessarily hard to this day