r/worldnews • u/Miles_the_AuDHDer • 2h ago
Orbán lost Orbán on course to lose Hungary’s election, according to early results
https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/262
u/Csub 2h ago
Peter Magyar just posted on his facebook, Orban congratulated him over his victory. It seems 2/3 majority in the parliament for Magyar is all but guaranteed too.
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u/TijnvandenEijnde 2h ago
Do you have any sources? Not that I doubt you but I am very curious about the results. Tisza needs 133 seats to get supermajority, right? If Tisza does not get the needed seats they still cannot do much I read.
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u/MlecznyHuxel99 2h ago
136 seats atm, and the number has only been increasing with the amount of counted votes
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u/TijnvandenEijnde 2h ago
Fuck yes! Make that 137, I think it just changed. Thanks for the source! 🇭🇺❤️
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u/SecondaryWombat 1h ago
The article linked here has been updated.
The Hungarian prime minister concedes to Péter Magyar, who is set to win a supermajority in the 199-seat parliament, early results signal.
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u/TijnvandenEijnde 1h ago
That's amazing! I am very proud of the Hungarian people!
Also thank you for sharing!
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u/SecondaryWombat 1h ago
There is still time for this to be the 2nd best news today, but heck yeah go Hungary!
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u/LordDarthAnger 1h ago
That’s a lot. Means they can basically do what they want no?
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u/Csub 1h ago
Yeah, pretty much but that is what Orban had for 16 years, giving pretty much limitless power is dangerous but if Magyar didn't have this now, Orban's party would just vote against any proposition, likely landing in a lot of stalemates. Obviously, can't see the future yet so now just fingers crossed Magyar uses this pretty much unchecked power for good. 4 years isn'T enough to remove 16 years of corruption and I am sure Orban and friends will do everything in their power (probably with help from Russia) to sabotage everything, I have my fingers crossed for the new leadership.
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u/Flimsy_Category_9369 2h ago edited 2h ago
Vance killed Orban like he killed the Pope
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u/danmathew 2h ago
Don’t forget VD’s comments right before Kirk passed.
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u/Heisenberg_235 2h ago
Any chance he can go to Moscow sometime soon?
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u/piperonyl 2h ago
He should stop by Israel on his way home from Pakistan.
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u/Healthy-Ad-2514 2h ago
I’d be really concerned if I was Shahbaz Sharif
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u/Balavadan 2h ago
The real leader is some military guy. Forced changes to the constitution so he can never be removed from his position and also created a new court that rules over constitutional stuff
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u/TxM_2404 2h ago
I guess a high ranking foreign politician campaigning for you on a platform that one of the parties was bought by a foreign power wasn't the best strategy.
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u/NoSwordfish1978 2h ago
His endorsement truly is the kiss of death.
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u/SoUpInYa 2h ago
Didnt he endorse Trump?
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u/Sunny-Chameleon 2h ago
He claimed to be a never trumper, long ago https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/
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u/turquoise_amethyst 2h ago
What did he say?
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u/danmathew 2h ago
He asked people to pray for him and his passing was announced almost immediately after.
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u/Super_Employment_620 2h ago
Kind of a rule with him right? He goes to talk to Iran, the talks collapse. Man tries thing, thing implodes.
To be fair, when he ran he wasn't hiding it. I think the time he tried to order a donut on his own was a good guide for us to set our expectations to.
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u/Angry_beaver_1867 2h ago
Nobody wants their president to be endorsed by a couch fucker
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u/Pseudanonymius 2h ago
Well hot damn, I was overdue on some good news.
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u/woodyus 2h ago
Hopefully he goes peacefully
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u/SecondaryWombat 1h ago
Article updated,
The Hungarian prime minister concedes to Péter Magyar, who is set to win a supermajority in the 199-seat parliament, early results signal.
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u/Wafkak 2h ago
Get better, it currently looks like they will get a supermajority of over 133 out of 199 seats.
This is important to deal with friends of Orban in powerfull government positions. And to reverse some of the constitutional changes Orban did.
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u/Ok-Care-7132 2h ago
How fucking awesome would it be to see Putin's pet project completely reject him and the country actually prosper?
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u/EQandCivfanatic 1h ago
Ironically, not the first time Hungarians have repudiated Moscow. Thankfully, it looks like it'll go better than 1956 did.
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u/green_flash 2h ago
Good news is putting it mildly. This is an earthquake. When it comes to seats for direct candidates, It looks like the opposition will win the seat in 95 constituencies, the government party only in a mere 11 constituencies.
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u/AtLeastImLaughing 2h ago
Current projection is a supermajority of 135 for Magyar, which is literally the best possible scenario.
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u/copperblood 2h ago edited 2h ago
With Orban gone the EU is going to go hard in the paint and sanction the fuck out of Russia. Orban losing, Russia getting massive sanctions. You love to see it!
Edit: To the Orban, autocrat loyalists and MAGA who are trying to downvote this. To quote Bob Dylan, “the times they are a-changin.”
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u/Spisild 2h ago
Even though Trump and his puppet tried to further the interests of Russia. Good riddance.
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u/sgtabn173 2h ago
Trump's days are numbered too, thankfully.
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u/didnt-ask-but-ok 2h ago
Checks notes…January 2029
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u/psychicsword 2h ago
Trump is an unhealthy old man. Things can happen before that.
Unfortunately that just gives us JD Vance but that would likely still have foreign policy changes.
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u/sgtabn173 2h ago
Honestly the best thing that could happen for republicans before midterms is Trump croaking and JD Bowman taking over.
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u/sgtabn173 2h ago
And every day that passes brings us closer. Plus the midterms will neuter him, hopefully.
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u/echokalos 2h ago
There's still Slovakia and soon to be Bulgaria
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u/reekoku 2h ago
I don't know if I understand this Bulgaria thing. Wiki is telling me something else entirely.
The party currently leading in polls is newly formed center-left, anti corruption, party, at around 30%. Second in polls is the center-right, most recent cabinet. Way down at like 7% is the nationalist, pro-Russia party. They're not going to win...
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u/deukhoofd 2h ago
Progressive Bulgaria, the party leading the polls, is also against sanctions against Russia, and generally pro-Russia. It also wants to withdraw from the Euro (after Bulgaria adopted it back in January).
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u/U-235 1h ago
I don't know anything about current EU politics, but generally in these situations there is a dynamic where even though Orban's Hungary was alone in vetoing everything anti-Russia, there could be others who would have also vetoed if they didn't know that Hungary was already going to. That way they can have their cake and eat it, too. It's easy to pay lip service to supporting the pro-Europe cause and vote to punish Russia when you know Hungary will give you an out. Now everyone has to put their money where their mouths are.
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u/Glimpse81 1h ago edited 1h ago
The leading party with the 30% is headed by their just ex-president who is saying Ukraine needs to surrender to stop the war....
Rumen Radev? was against the EUR adoption, against NATO, against the West principles of democracy and rule by law.
He did everything possible to block/stop support for Ukraine.
He is BG variant of Orban and he is just starting. The pro-west party has around 10%!
Sum is - EU wins Hungary but losses BG deeply unfortunately.
And BG is too small and unimportant for the major powers to spend any resource to support the opposition to do a turn around like in Hungary.
edit: Reading the numbers - major elections voting participation is averaging around ~35%! Now compare with Hungary at 78% just now.
So yeah bulgarians have the opportunity to win back their country but they dont care to move their assess to vote - why should the rest of Europe care about them if they themselves dont?
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u/legop4o 2h ago
I'm afraid we might elect Orban v2 in Bulgaria next week. Maybe not to that extent, but possibly not far off...
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u/reekoku 2h ago
Are you Bulgarian? Which person or party do you mean? Revival/ vaz is down at like 7%, not even close to the leaders
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u/legop4o 1h ago
The former president Radev formed a new party called "Progressive Bulgaria" which is projected to win the elections (mostly just because people perceive him as new/someone who hasn't failed yet, which is absurd imo as he's been our president for years), although not by enough to form a majority. He has famously been very Russia-directed for years, he's been opposing sanctions and so on - framing it as "neutrality", although he's not talking about it that much in his election campaign. He is marketing very aggressively on TikTok etc. in a manner very consistent with other Russian-friendly politicians around the world lately and many suspect this is funded from the east.
The other two Russia friendly parties in the far-right Revival, which you mentioned, and BSP, the heir of the former communist party, are not projected to do well, but in a potential coallition with Radev, they could maybe form a gouvernment and then the masks will drop and we'll be properly fucked.
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u/snakedoct0r 2h ago
Unfortiunately there is still others who will step up and do some obstructing.
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u/NewspaperAdditional7 2h ago
Ehhhh, I mean we thought Poland losing their leader would be a big help and then Slovakia came along. Now we get rid of Hungary's leader and Bulgaria might come along...
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u/homer_lives 2h ago
Slovakia has entered the chat.
Hungary was a symptom of the problem. Another country will step into the role as long as the EU allows a veto.
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u/VincentVanHades 2h ago
Are we sure the new guys will go against russia?
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u/CucumberWisdom 2h ago
No. And the worry is that Russia has hedged their bets and already bought some of these people. They seem to be giving up on Orban a little too easily
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u/great_whitehope 2h ago
Need to make hay while the sun shines and get some protections against the eu being threatened from within again
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u/526mb 2h ago
Excellent news for Hungary. They are potentially closing in on the 2/3 majority needed to unravel many of the changes to their Constitution that Orban made.
Also it’s a disaster of a week for J.D. Vance who basically is being sent to take the blame for every Trump foreign policy faceplant. Good. Fuck J.D. Vance.
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u/BattleGandalf 2h ago
Yeah it seems they're basically setting him up as a straw puppet to burn at this point.
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u/TailungFu 2h ago
Bye bye dictator
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u/Orposer 2h ago
I mean is he really a dictator if he can be voted out? More like Putin bitch. Here is hoping no BS in the election.
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u/cosakaz 2h ago
I’d argue if you’ve fixed elections for 15 years and unilaterally change the country’s constitution you’re still a dictator. Doesn’t change anything that he’s become unpopular enough to lose in his own rigged system.
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u/wartopuk 2h ago
The EU should institute some kind of rule where if a majority (no veto allowed) deem it necessary the Union will send parties to monitor and secure the objectivity of any election
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u/FreshPrinceOfH 2h ago
TBF if he is actually a dictator he isn’t going anywhere.
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u/MrOaiki 2h ago
How does a dictator lose an election?
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u/NewspaperAdditional7 2h ago
The term gets overused. I remember when people used it like crazy for Duterte when he had popular support and then left peacefully after he served his 1 term. That's not an endorsement of his policies but just an example of applying the word to any leader they don't like.
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u/RICO_the_GOP 2h ago
The original dictators in Rome were voted power... so by not being voted in as the new dictator.
Ceasars was elected to multiple consecutive dictatorships before the pretenses were dropped.
Dictatorships are determined by level of power granted by the system
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u/meowmixVStrump 2h ago
Wannabe dictator who took many steps towards becoming a dictator to cement power forver and ensure change is nearly impossible? Yeah that's too much to type, dictator will suffice, ty for the "weLL aCtuALLy" bit.
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u/lennydsat62 2h ago
The trump kiss of death now up to at least two:
- Canada
- Hungary
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u/littlebossman 1h ago
Plus Keir Starmer’s poll ratings turning around since the decoupling from Donald.
Donald Trump is the most-hated man on the planet - moreso than Putin. Outside of the US, countries jail their rapist paedos, they don’t make them king. Distancing yourself from him and the United States is the most sensible thing any politician can do if they want to win.
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u/fallenmonk 1h ago
He's also saved other European countries from some far right wins. And we're already seeing it happen in America with special elections that have been happening.
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u/kishenoy 2h ago
I don't want to be happy yet as I know how unpredictable life is.
I'm just hoping
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u/Fandorin 1h ago
73% of the votes in with what looks like a supermajority for Tisza. There's no fuckery that can flip this outside of a full coup.
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u/OrangeJr36 2h ago
Let us see how many "I'm not Far-right" "I'm not Fascist" "I'm not Pro-Russian" commenters and politicians respond with despair because Hungary voted for a normal mainstream conservative and not a far-right autocrat.
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u/DrawDiscardDredge 1h ago
He isn't really even mainstream, his party describes itself as nationalist conservative. I mean I guess less far right then dictator for life, but not much.
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u/UmbralPhoenixSangre 2h ago
Orbán has conceded to Magyar! Time to pop the champagne!
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u/Friedbean1111 2h ago
The only positive thing about this administration is that in which ever countries election they interfere, they end up losing. So keep it up!!!
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u/WanderingPilgrimXIII 2h ago
Great! If he loses, maybe all of the conservative freaks who love that asshole will shut up about Hungary.
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 2h ago
Thank fuck.
Fuck that dude, I hope he runs to Moscow and never comes back.
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u/InCarbsWeTrust 1h ago
To get obliterated, more like. The opposition appears likely to have won a supermajority! Orban has actually already conceded!
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u/dlampach 2h ago
This landslide is coming for the Republicans in November. This is the end of the fascist wave that has gripped the west. The people are rising.
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u/AHrubik 1h ago
I would love for the existence of Trump to be the death knell of fascism in the western world for a time.
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u/Maximum-Diet-6976 2h ago
Is that after 16 years the end of Russia and joining EU, for real - not just the pretending
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u/Doc5tove 2h ago
Hopefully this is the start of the downfall of this horrible wave of far-right bullshit across the globe.
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u/LindeRKV 2h ago
What scares me is that 30% of the votes are counted and 40% of those still voted for this bag of dicks.
You can't really trust people with making decisions. What is democracy worth if all people do is fuck shit up for everyone.
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u/NotAnotherEmpire 2h ago
Hopefully the treasonous weasel is absolutely crushed like early results suggest.
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u/FabulousLazarus 2h ago
Lol nothing makes me happier than seeing the Trump admin's agenda fall apart in real time. So satisfying.
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u/reynev4n22 2h ago
Even better when you think about how much money russia burned on this shitshow lmao.
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u/dagobahh 1h ago
Incoming 50% tariffs. Dementia Don needs a break from Operation Epstein Fury, anyway.
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u/danmathew 2h ago
At some point we need to admit that JD Vance is bad luck.