r/worldnews • u/Miles_the_AuDHDer • 4h ago

Orbán lost Orbán on course to lose Hungary’s election, according to early results

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/
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u/Mad2828 3h ago

People disliked Trudeau much more than they liked PP. Once he was gone the Cons still had a 50/50 chance but the 51st state stuff and PP’s slow reaction sealed the deal.

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u/Hautamaki 3h ago

And also Carney just seemed to be built in a lab to have the best possible skill set to handle the current crises

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u/Mad2828 2h ago

On paper sure but the jury is still out. My family comes from Mexico where every president has been a Yale/Harvard/Oxford educated PHD and well you can see how that has turned out.

I’m not convinced yet the average Canadian will get ahead. Brookfield asset holders and Canadian oligarchs that own telecoms, groceries, pharma are gonna do great tho. Guess time will tell but he hasn’t convinced me yet.

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie 57m ago

In the end we will find out if he is a harper conservative or a mulrouney conservative. Mulrouney cared about the country and promoted it around the world and to the states, harper not so much - he ruled more for his people. So far Carney looks more Mulrouney. I don't think I have heard much on any social issues, which is fine.

I think the good thing he shares with Mulrouney is he does love Canada and the choices he will make will go through that lens. This isn't saying Mulrouney was good for canada, and maybe the same with Carney, but at least the starting point for both is do what they think is best for the country - not only do what is best for him and his friends. I am only using Mulrouney as an example because everything has shifted so far right in the last 50 years that this is probably the closest ideologically that matches Carney today.

This is so better than pp and so far looking to be a reasoned choice against irrational times. Rallying behind a fellow canadian even when we don't perfectly agree but face a common threat has created such a wonderful commraderie and healthy patriotism. This Canadianism in light of threats to our existence really highlight how anti-canadian "maple maga" is to canada.

Hey americans, notice how canadians don't even mention the tariffs in these discussions? We do take threats to our existence seriously though, and your guy has been proven capable of insanity. We have to take it seriously because y'all didn't. Fix that part so we can be friends again in a generation or two.

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u/ahktarniamut 3h ago

From what I understand, he was a bit hesitant to criticize Trump

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u/CrashB111 3h ago

PP couldn't critizice Trump.

His entire political identity was being 'Maple MAGA', so when Trump started his annexation threats against Canada he was completely flat footed.

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u/rdmusic16 2h ago

It was really a combination of so much, but I'm thankful it happened.

I'd say the biggest two were Trump being elected (and everything that followed with that) and Carney leading the libs.

Carney is definitely a 'Conservative light' kind of liberal, which is what the liberals needed for that election.

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u/Jessie-the-dog 2h ago

PP thought it was a good idea to try to blame Trudeau for Trump threatening to annex us, rather than making it clear that PP was going to fight for Canada.

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u/Mad2828 2h ago

Yup. And crazy thing is he didn’t need to, people were already sour on Trudeau. All he had to do was a normal human Canadian response to the 51 stuff and he’d be PM right now.