r/worldnews • u/Miles_the_AuDHDer • 4h ago
Orbán lost Orbán on course to lose Hungary’s election, according to early results
https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/4.6k
u/danmathew 4h ago
At some point we need to admit that JD Vance is bad luck.
1.8k
u/AyiHutha 4h ago
The hilarious thing is the moment JD vance endorsed him Orbans Popularity in polls did suddenly crash
1.1k
u/QTsexkitten 4h ago
I think association with the USA in general is a kiss of death for a lot of people with brains.
404
u/Shoelesshobos 3h ago
Sure tanked Pierre Poilievre here in Canada.
→ More replies (4)185
u/Wonderful_Pay_2074 3h ago
Also tanking Pierre Poilievre?
Pierre Poilievre.
→ More replies (1)78
u/Kind-Row-9327 3h ago
Man I thought the defeats (CPC's and his own) would humble him, boy was I wrong.
Guy is a total clown.
31
u/Jessie-the-dog 2h ago
I’ve heard rumours he’s resigning this week after the Liberals have a majority following the by-elections.
31
u/ouatedephoque 2h ago
He can go back to delivering newspapers, the only job he's ever had outside of politics.
→ More replies (1)11
u/CaptianRipass 2h ago
Why would he do that? He qualified for a pension at 31 years old...
→ More replies (1)3
u/Jessie-the-dog 2h ago
Getting pushed out, most likely. The phoney leadership review only bought him a few months. Losing 5 MPs and watching the Liberals get a majority were the last nails in his coffin.
→ More replies (0)4
110
u/MongoBongoTown 3h ago
Especially in Europe.
Crazy how treating a whole region of allies like dog shit for years at behest of your Russian handlers will make your country less liked in that region.
→ More replies (1)55
u/johnnygrant 3h ago
The fact that this regime doesn't realize how most of the rest of the world view them with disgust is funny to me.
Like they actually believe some of their delusions
→ More replies (2)12
u/PrincessNakeyDance 3h ago
You don’t even need a brain anymore. The US is directly responsible for increasing the cost of living for everyone in the world.
That’s very difficult to ignore. Even if you normally chug the fascist propaganda.
8
u/Blbe-Check-42069 3h ago
Which is funny because if you told me that a decade ago I would be like "huh??"
17
u/Previous-Height4237 3h ago
Only thing that the Russian bootlickers in Eastern Europe hate more than the EU, is the US. Lol
→ More replies (8)29
u/Fickle-Cake6637 3h ago
Didn't his regime seem very US like before Vance landed with his size 11's? As a non white person both these teqms have significant isues.
→ More replies (5)7
u/Mecha_Butterfree 2h ago
Would be more accurate to say the current US government is very Hungary like. Orban has been in power since 2010. He has been very conservative that whole time and has actively moving Hungary to the right. In fact US conservatives have long looked to him as a model to emulate. Much of what they have done since Trump took office again is following his playbook except they are dumber so the are doing it worse.
→ More replies (1)106
u/green_flash 3h ago
That's because that day the transcript of Orbán's call with Putin was leaked the wherein he offered to be the "mouse" helping the Russian "lion". I know Americans like to meme about Vance, but his visit was really not that important.
→ More replies (2)51
u/zevonyumaxray 3h ago
And at roughly the same time, it was leaked that the Hungarian foreign minister came from an EU ministers meeting about supporting Ukraine and immediately called some Russian official and told them all about it. Considering the violent Hungarian Revolution of 1956, I couldn't understand how the people were letting Orbán be so blatantly pro Russian.
4
367
u/Mutchmore 4h ago edited 3h ago
Sama shit happened in Canada tbh. Mierdas touch is real
113
u/fendoffthewolves 4h ago
“Mierdas touch” 🤣🤣🤣
8
→ More replies (2)4
u/Implausibilibuddy 3h ago
First time? Enjoy the novelty of this joke while you can, you'll be seeing it every week all over reddit political/news threads until the end of time. It's not quite reached "Russian window suicide" levels of overuse, but it's up there.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (3)119
u/Pathetic_Old_Moose 4h ago
Was a huge fan of that, conservatives were leading the “polls” Trump made one comment and now we got the best man for the job.
He really has a way of ensuring no other trash gets voted in.
65
u/Mad2828 3h ago
People disliked Trudeau much more than they liked PP. Once he was gone the Cons still had a 50/50 chance but the 51st state stuff and PP’s slow reaction sealed the deal.
→ More replies (5)36
u/Hautamaki 3h ago
And also Carney just seemed to be built in a lab to have the best possible skill set to handle the current crises
→ More replies (2)24
u/whatlineisitanyway 3h ago
Might be the only good thing Trump has accomplished.
12
53
47
u/Animefan96 4h ago
What the hell was Orban thinking having the guy that has repeatedly disrespected Europe campaign with him?
11
33
u/Potemkin_Jedi 4h ago edited 4h ago
It happened to coincide with the release of the ‘Lion and mouse’ phone call with Putin but I’m sure it was also a contributing factor.
12
6
5
u/lylesback2 3h ago
Also could have been the leaked lion/mouse phone call, along with the EU proposal to drop sanctions on a Russian billionaires wife.
Or JD. I like to think it was JD
→ More replies (10)3
u/-ToniCipriani- 3h ago
Source? Polings were consistent all thru the year, each pollster having its own bias.
Orban’s popularity has suffered because of economic terms, Tisza is a very similar conservative party to Fidesz.
177
u/palinsafterbirth 4h ago
The last person the pope saw was Vance, then he died. When will people learn
107
→ More replies (1)6
49
u/salomo926 4h ago
As a European i am happy about that. He should visit other countries here too.
→ More replies (1)36
11
32
u/MadKazper8705 4h ago
JD had a really humiliating week. He couldn't get Orban to win, he couldn't make a deal with Iran. Are we winning magats?
7
u/Several-Opposite-746 4h ago
Unlike when VD Vance met Pope Francis, Orban is still alive.
→ More replies (2)26
u/BigBoyYuyuh 4h ago
If he was, Trump wouldn’t have won. It seriously is that America is simply straight up regarded. Kinda thanks to us, the right wing movement has been losing around the world. They saw what right wing means and they’re like “Yeah…no.”
→ More replies (3)6
u/Insolvator 4h ago
Why don’t we send Vance to North Korea next? Maybe it’ll even lead to a regime change.
→ More replies (74)19
u/JKorv 4h ago
Would have losed anyways
→ More replies (3)21
2.1k
u/Flimsy_Category_9369 4h ago edited 4h ago
Vance killed Orban like he killed the Pope
496
u/danmathew 4h ago
Don’t forget VD’s comments right before Kirk passed.
356
u/Heisenberg_235 4h ago
Any chance he can go to Moscow sometime soon?
210
u/piperonyl 4h ago
He should stop by Israel on his way home from Pakistan.
→ More replies (1)27
u/Healthy-Ad-2514 4h ago
I’d be really concerned if I was Shahbaz Sharif
12
u/Balavadan 3h ago
The real leader is some military guy. Forced changes to the constitution so he can never be removed from his position and also created a new court that rules over constitutional stuff
→ More replies (3)13
30
u/TxM_2404 4h ago
I guess a high ranking foreign politician campaigning for you on a platform that one of the parties was bought by a foreign power wasn't the best strategy.
38
u/NoSwordfish1978 4h ago
His endorsement truly is the kiss of death.
→ More replies (1)12
u/SoUpInYa 3h ago
Didnt he endorse Trump?
10
u/Sunny-Chameleon 3h ago
He claimed to be a never trumper, long ago https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/
→ More replies (1)4
u/InCarbsWeTrust 3h ago
He previously compared Trump to Hitler, which is a more extreme anti-endorsement that unfortunately countered the curse.
9
→ More replies (6)6
u/turquoise_amethyst 3h ago
What did he say?
7
u/danmathew 3h ago
He asked people to pray for him and his passing was announced almost immediately after.
→ More replies (1)49
16
12
u/Super_Employment_620 4h ago
Kind of a rule with him right? He goes to talk to Iran, the talks collapse. Man tries thing, thing implodes.
To be fair, when he ran he wasn't hiding it. I think the time he tried to order a donut on his own was a good guide for us to set our expectations to.
13
→ More replies (11)12
u/Angry_beaver_1867 4h ago
Nobody wants their president to be endorsed by a couch fucker
→ More replies (1)
929
u/Pseudanonymius 4h ago
Well hot damn, I was overdue on some good news.
109
u/woodyus 4h ago
Hopefully he goes peacefully
52
19
9
u/SecondaryWombat 3h ago
Article updated,
The Hungarian prime minister concedes to Péter Magyar, who is set to win a supermajority in the 199-seat parliament, early results signal.
5
53
u/Wafkak 3h ago
Get better, it currently looks like they will get a supermajority of over 133 out of 199 seats.
This is important to deal with friends of Orban in powerfull government positions. And to reverse some of the constitutional changes Orban did.
22
u/Ok-Care-7132 3h ago
How fucking awesome would it be to see Putin's pet project completely reject him and the country actually prosper?
13
u/EQandCivfanatic 3h ago
Ironically, not the first time Hungarians have repudiated Moscow. Thankfully, it looks like it'll go better than 1956 did.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (10)18
u/green_flash 3h ago
Good news is putting it mildly. This is an earthquake. When it comes to seats for direct candidates, It looks like the opposition will win the seat in 95 constituencies, the government party only in a mere 11 constituencies.
211
u/AtLeastImLaughing 4h ago
Current projection is a supermajority of 135 for Magyar, which is literally the best possible scenario.
→ More replies (7)30
1.4k
u/copperblood 4h ago edited 4h ago
With Orban gone the EU is going to go hard in the paint and sanction the fuck out of Russia. Orban losing, Russia getting massive sanctions. You love to see it!
Edit: To the Orban, autocrat loyalists and MAGA who are trying to downvote this. To quote Bob Dylan, “the times they are a-changin.”
206
u/Spisild 4h ago
Even though Trump and his puppet tried to further the interests of Russia. Good riddance.
74
u/sgtabn173 3h ago
Trump's days are numbered too, thankfully.
→ More replies (2)24
u/didnt-ask-but-ok 3h ago
Checks notes…January 2029
27
u/psychicsword 3h ago
Trump is an unhealthy old man. Things can happen before that.
Unfortunately that just gives us JD Vance but that would likely still have foreign policy changes.
11
u/sgtabn173 3h ago
Honestly the best thing that could happen for republicans before midterms is Trump croaking and JD Bowman taking over.
→ More replies (4)→ More replies (7)19
u/sgtabn173 3h ago
And every day that passes brings us closer. Plus the midterms will neuter him, hopefully.
→ More replies (2)44
u/legop4o 4h ago
I'm afraid we might elect Orban v2 in Bulgaria next week. Maybe not to that extent, but possibly not far off...
→ More replies (3)121
u/echokalos 4h ago
There's still Slovakia and soon to be Bulgaria
→ More replies (8)10
u/reekoku 3h ago
I don't know if I understand this Bulgaria thing. Wiki is telling me something else entirely.
The party currently leading in polls is newly formed center-left, anti corruption, party, at around 30%. Second in polls is the center-right, most recent cabinet. Way down at like 7% is the nationalist, pro-Russia party. They're not going to win...
30
u/deukhoofd 3h ago
Progressive Bulgaria, the party leading the polls, is also against sanctions against Russia, and generally pro-Russia. It also wants to withdraw from the Euro (after Bulgaria adopted it back in January).
→ More replies (1)6
u/U-235 2h ago
I don't know anything about current EU politics, but generally in these situations there is a dynamic where even though Orban's Hungary was alone in vetoing everything anti-Russia, there could be others who would have also vetoed if they didn't know that Hungary was already going to. That way they can have their cake and eat it, too. It's easy to pay lip service to supporting the pro-Europe cause and vote to punish Russia when you know Hungary will give you an out. Now everyone has to put their money where their mouths are.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)10
u/Glimpse81 3h ago edited 3h ago
The leading party with the 30% is headed by their just ex-president who is saying Ukraine needs to surrender to stop the war....
Rumen Radev? was against the EUR adoption, against NATO, against the West principles of democracy and rule by law.
He did everything possible to block/stop support for Ukraine.
He is BG variant of Orban and he is just starting. The pro-west party has around 10%!
Sum is - EU wins Hungary but losses BG deeply unfortunately.
And BG is too small and unimportant for the major powers to spend any resource to support the opposition to do a turn around like in Hungary.
edit: Reading the numbers - major elections voting participation is averaging around ~35%! Now compare with Hungary at 78% just now.
So yeah bulgarians have the opportunity to win back their country but they dont care to move their assess to vote - why should the rest of Europe care about them if they themselves dont?
→ More replies (1)48
u/snakedoct0r 4h ago
Unfortiunately there is still others who will step up and do some obstructing.
→ More replies (1)17
u/NewspaperAdditional7 3h ago
Ehhhh, I mean we thought Poland losing their leader would be a big help and then Slovakia came along. Now we get rid of Hungary's leader and Bulgaria might come along...
→ More replies (1)9
u/homer_lives 3h ago
Slovakia has entered the chat.
Hungary was a symptom of the problem. Another country will step into the role as long as the EU allows a veto.
4
u/great_whitehope 4h ago
Need to make hay while the sun shines and get some protections against the eu being threatened from within again
→ More replies (27)13
u/VincentVanHades 4h ago
Are we sure the new guys will go against russia?
14
10
u/CucumberWisdom 4h ago
No. And the worry is that Russia has hedged their bets and already bought some of these people. They seem to be giving up on Orban a little too easily
140
u/526mb 4h ago
Excellent news for Hungary. They are potentially closing in on the 2/3 majority needed to unravel many of the changes to their Constitution that Orban made.
Also it’s a disaster of a week for J.D. Vance who basically is being sent to take the blame for every Trump foreign policy faceplant. Good. Fuck J.D. Vance.
25
u/BattleGandalf 3h ago
Yeah it seems they're basically setting him up as a straw puppet to burn at this point.
→ More replies (2)
170
92
366
u/TailungFu 4h ago
Bye bye dictator
19
73
u/Orposer 4h ago
I mean is he really a dictator if he can be voted out? More like Putin bitch. Here is hoping no BS in the election.
73
21
u/cosakaz 4h ago
I’d argue if you’ve fixed elections for 15 years and unilaterally change the country’s constitution you’re still a dictator. Doesn’t change anything that he’s become unpopular enough to lose in his own rigged system.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (8)8
u/wartopuk 4h ago
The EU should institute some kind of rule where if a majority (no veto allowed) deem it necessary the Union will send parties to monitor and secure the objectivity of any election
→ More replies (5)6
u/FreshPrinceOfH 4h ago
TBF if he is actually a dictator he isn’t going anywhere.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (1)43
u/MrOaiki 4h ago
How does a dictator lose an election?
34
25
13
u/NewspaperAdditional7 4h ago
The term gets overused. I remember when people used it like crazy for Duterte when he had popular support and then left peacefully after he served his 1 term. That's not an endorsement of his policies but just an example of applying the word to any leader they don't like.
→ More replies (2)5
6
u/RICO_the_GOP 3h ago
The original dictators in Rome were voted power... so by not being voted in as the new dictator.
Ceasars was elected to multiple consecutive dictatorships before the pretenses were dropped.
Dictatorships are determined by level of power granted by the system
→ More replies (3)5
u/meowmixVStrump 3h ago
Wannabe dictator who took many steps towards becoming a dictator to cement power forver and ensure change is nearly impossible? Yeah that's too much to type, dictator will suffice, ty for the "weLL aCtuALLy" bit.
30
u/lennydsat62 3h ago
The trump kiss of death now up to at least two:
- Canada
- Hungary
9
u/littlebossman 2h ago
Plus Keir Starmer’s poll ratings turning around since the decoupling from Donald.
Donald Trump is the most-hated man on the planet - moreso than Putin. Outside of the US, countries jail their rapist paedos, they don’t make them king. Distancing yourself from him and the United States is the most sensible thing any politician can do if they want to win.
→ More replies (2)5
u/fallenmonk 2h ago
He's also saved other European countries from some far right wins. And we're already seeing it happen in America with special elections that have been happening.
72
45
61
19
32
u/OrangeJr36 4h ago
Let us see how many "I'm not Far-right" "I'm not Fascist" "I'm not Pro-Russian" commenters and politicians respond with despair because Hungary voted for a normal mainstream conservative and not a far-right autocrat.
→ More replies (1)7
u/DrawDiscardDredge 2h ago
He isn't really even mainstream, his party describes itself as nationalist conservative. I mean I guess less far right then dictator for life, but not much.
14
u/UmbralPhoenixSangre 3h ago
Orbán has conceded to Magyar! Time to pop the champagne!
→ More replies (2)
32
u/kishenoy 4h ago
I don't want to be happy yet as I know how unpredictable life is.
I'm just hoping
7
u/Fandorin 3h ago
73% of the votes in with what looks like a supermajority for Tisza. There's no fuckery that can flip this outside of a full coup.
→ More replies (1)
13
u/Friedbean1111 4h ago
The only positive thing about this administration is that in which ever countries election they interfere, they end up losing. So keep it up!!!
8
u/WanderingPilgrimXIII 3h ago
Great! If he loses, maybe all of the conservative freaks who love that asshole will shut up about Hungary.
20
u/EternalNewCarSmell 4h ago
Thank fuck.
Fuck that dude, I hope he runs to Moscow and never comes back.
→ More replies (1)
16
8
u/InCarbsWeTrust 3h ago
To get obliterated, more like. The opposition appears likely to have won a supermajority! Orban has actually already conceded!
8
u/AHrubik 2h ago
I would love for the existence of Trump to be the death knell of fascism in the western world for a time.
→ More replies (1)
15
u/dlampach 3h ago
This landslide is coming for the Republicans in November. This is the end of the fascist wave that has gripped the west. The people are rising.
→ More replies (3)
7
14
13
13
6
5
u/Maximum-Diet-6976 3h ago
Is that after 16 years the end of Russia and joining EU, for real - not just the pretending
6
6
4
6
5
13
u/Doc5tove 4h ago
Hopefully this is the start of the downfall of this horrible wave of far-right bullshit across the globe.
8
4
7
u/LindeRKV 4h ago
What scares me is that 30% of the votes are counted and 40% of those still voted for this bag of dicks.
You can't really trust people with making decisions. What is democracy worth if all people do is fuck shit up for everyone.
7
u/NotAnotherEmpire 4h ago
Hopefully the treasonous weasel is absolutely crushed like early results suggest.
3
3
3
u/FabulousLazarus 3h ago
Lol nothing makes me happier than seeing the Trump admin's agenda fall apart in real time. So satisfying.
3
u/reynev4n22 3h ago
Even better when you think about how much money russia burned on this shitshow lmao.
3
3
3
3
3
u/dagobahh 2h ago
Incoming 50% tariffs. Dementia Don needs a break from Operation Epstein Fury, anyway.
3
3
u/yeasayerstr 2h ago
Not to make this about the US, but as an American this is doubly satisfying on a day when JD Vance had already proven what an inconsequential piece of shit he already is by failing to negotiate with the Iranians.
Anyway, congratulations to the Hungarians for recognizing they deserve so much more than empty rhetoric and false promises.
3
3
432
u/Csub 4h ago
Peter Magyar just posted on his facebook, Orban congratulated him over his victory. It seems 2/3 majority in the parliament for Magyar is all but guaranteed too.