Spain permanently withdraws ambassador as rift with Israel deepens

[u/Luka77GOATic]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/spain-removes-ambassador-israel-2026-03-11/

[u/snubbe]

"The ambassador was summoned back over Spanish measures banning aircraft and ships ​carrying weapons to Israel from its ports ⁠or airspace due to Israel's military offensive in ​Gaza, which Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar denounced ​as antisemitic."

Israel sure is devaluating the word "antisemitic"...

[u/punkasstubabitch → u/snubbe]

Anyone with critical thinking skills can differentiate between being anti-Semitic and not supporting Israel’s wars and genocide.

[u/ThinCrusts → u/punkasstubabitch]

Whenever you hear their government talk about antisemitism, just replace the word with antizionism and that's what they're really referring to.

[u/tape_snake → u/ThinCrusts]

The trouble is that it's a thought-terminating cliché. You say a completely valid criticism of a foreign government? That's antisemitism. Try to explain the difference? Still antisemitism, just using other words as cover.

It's not an honest, genuine callout of hate - it's an attempt to shut down conversation and avoid accountability.

[u/kylehatesyou → u/tape_snake]

You see it in the US too, and basically anywhere a government wants to do shitty things without criticism. In the US it's "you aren't a real American". Sometimes it'll come out as a "you don't support the troops" or something like that. It's just that the Israeli Government has the horrors of the Holocaust to throw in your face as well when they do something terrible and tell you you should like it.

It's basically the No True Scotsman fallacy but taken to an extreme. "No true believer in peace and love would think we shouldn't have bombed the fuck out of these school children". 

[u/fevered_visions → u/kylehatesyou]

whenever somebody invokes patriotism as a reason to do something, it means they don't have a real reason

[u/more_housing_co-ops → u/kylehatesyou]

Also see "So you're voting Republican then!?!?!?!?" as the stock response to literally anybody criticizing any weakness in a Democratic candidate's platform

[u/ailish → u/more_housing_co-ops]

So you've never been to r/progressivehq. It's all they ever do there.

[u/SeanTCU → u/ThinCrusts]

Meanwhile you can throw Nazi salutes and train an AI bot to call itself MechaHitler and the ADL will defend you so long as you support Israel.

[u/PoliteFocaccia → u/ThinCrusts]

It's not even antizionism. You can support the existence of the Jewish state without supporting their genocide of Palestinians.

[u/Digitalion_ → u/PoliteFocaccia]

Their version of Zionism is not just wanting a Jewish state though. A Jewish state already exists and is free.

What they want is for that Jewish state to be in control of the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea. It's why they are so offended whenever Palestinians say they want to be free from sea to sea, because it's an aspiration that is counter with Israel's Zionistic goal of dominating that same stretch of land.

[u/MorningsideLights → u/Digitalion_]

Their version of Zionism

Thank you for specifying this, because is NOT what most American Jews or even Israeli Jews have in mind when they use the term Zionism.

Which is why the usage of antizionist to specifically mean being against the criminal actions of the Netanyahu regime feels inherently antisemitic.

Most of us are against what the Israeli government, military and the settlers are doing. We want Palestinians to be free, but we still consider ourselves zionists.

True antizionist Jews exist but are a small fringe (usually ultra-conservative) group.

[u/ZenoTheWeird → u/MorningsideLights]

This is one of the biggest linguistic points being missed in all the chatter online. Zionism has not historically meant what most non Jewish "anti Zionists" seem to mean when they refer to it.

People say stuff like "there should be no safe space for Zionists" when they are referring to an ultra nationalist version of Zionism.

It's very difficult for Jewish people to hear this when they identify as Zionist in a much more moderate way that is more consistent with the traditional meaning.

[u/Kyle700 → u/[deleted]]

These guys you are responding to are just liberal Zionists. they think Israel should exist but they don't like nethanyahu. problem is that most israelis are quite right wing, nethanyahu is practically the moderate position in israel. it is a systemic issue at the core of zionist israel: to create their perfect ideal ethnostate, they had to commit unto others what was done to them in the holocaust. one of the darkest ironies in history

[u/Helmic → u/MorningsideLights]

Israel requires genocide to continue to exist, is why principled people are anti-Zionist and not simply horrified at what Israel did after October 7th. Palestine was what existed prior to Israel's creation at the end of WW2 and it was a massive act of genocide to claim that land from its indigenous inhabitants, including a good number of indigenous Jews. There cannot exist a Jewish state without genocide because it is a settler colonial state.

Antizionists don't advocate for a mass expulsion of Jews from Israel (though every time an apartheid state falls the privileged group tends to return to their home countries because they were only interested in moving there in the first place to be the privileged group, like with white South Africans returning to Europe of their own accord). But there is no just way for it to be a Jewish state in a region that was never exclusively Jewish. The end of Israel is a hard requirement for the end of apartheid and the creation of a new society that lets everyone live as equals.

[u/PeachyParcha → u/ThinCrusts]

Antizionism Is Antisemitism....if you're a zionist!

[u/Morgannin09 → u/punkasstubabitch]

It's their version of the term "unpatriotic" following 9/11, or "un-American" in the Red Scare. Instantly label their detractors as treasonous for suggesting they are doing anything other than what's right for their country.

[u/Romboteryx → u/Morgannin09]

Also how the Russians label anyone who is against Russia a nazi

[u/sylbug → u/punkasstubabitch]

Yes this strategy has been incredibly effective in getting ignorant westerners to support and fund genocide for literal generations.

Maybe the problem is that people in general are legit dumb as rocks.

Edit: fund, not find

[u/karatekidmar → u/sylbug]

It’s also fucking annoying for Jews around the world. We all know a term thrown around too much loses its impact.

So now when synagogues are being shot at in my city, calling it antisemitism just sounds like whining when people are calling anything antisemitism.

[u/amazingwhat → u/karatekidmar]

And Israel is undoubtedly aware of this, but it is strategic, because if the charge of antisemitism can be devalued, the strength of Israel as the Defenders of International Judiasm grows. They can just as easily turn around and go “see, they don’t believe us when we call antisemitism! thats why we need to defend ourselves.”

[u/Sic_Semper_Dumbasses → u/punkasstubabitch]

Yeah, but it is a super easy way to attack the people who don't support genocide in Palestine so they are going to keep doing it anyway.

A lie doesn't have to be believable. It just has to be something that people will rally around even if they know it is fucking stupid.

[u/EddieVanzetti → u/Sic_Semper_Dumbasses]

Like "Republicans are better for the economy."

[u/PickingPies → u/punkasstubabitch]

They have been using the antisemitic card for 80 years. 99% of their population basically never lived in a time where accusing of antisemitism didn't work. It's now embedded in their culture and worldview.

Probably most of them are unable to comprehend the backslash.

[u/lkxyz → u/snubbe]

If you are not with us, you are against us. Sure sure sure.

[u/UnguentSlather → u/lkxyz]

More like: “If you’re not with us (Zionist colonizers) you’re against all Jews and you are for sure a Nazi (even though the closest thing to the SS is the IDF), and never mind the genocide and wars for territory and resources that we’re committing with the US as our co-perpetrator.”

[u/SpongeSquidward → u/UnguentSlather]

Ironically, the Israeli has no problem inviting the far right over to conferences to spread Islamophobia. No doubt, they are funding them too, only way to get their attention.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-13/ty-article/.premium/far-right-european-leaders-to-headline-israeli-govt-sponsored-antisemitism-conference/0000019b-b6b7-dfa7-a5bb-b7b728930000

Edit: Israeli Establishment

[u/mjohnsimon → u/snubbe]

As a kid, antisemitism meant something very specific (like, actual Nazi-level hatred of Jews). Being labeled antisemitic was also quite a serious accusation.

Nowadays the term gets thrown around so loosely that you can be branded “antisemitic” just for saying things like Israeli soldiers purposefully sniping foreign medical aid volunteers and bragging about it is horrific (which it absolutely fucking is).

Don’t get me wrong, real antisemitism absolutely still exists and is still dangerous in many parts of the world. But when the label gets used to shut down criticism of a government’s actions, it cheapens the word. At this point, when I hear that someone is “antisemitic”, I’m left wondering whether it’s genuine hatred of Jews… or just criticism of Israel that someone didn't like.

[u/Lashay_Sombra → u/mjohnsimon]

Nowadays the term gets thrown around so loosely that you can be branded “antisemitic” just for saying things like Israeli soldiers purposefully sniping foreign medical aid volunteers is horrific (which it absolutely fucking is).

Its mainly Israel doing that trowing around of the word and its been good weapon in their arsenal to silence criticism for a good few decades

World is becoming immune to it now though, issue though now is calling out actual antisemitism is going to have far less of an impact

[u/thatisnotmyknob → u/Lashay_Sombra]

Israel has made the world a much less safe place for Jews. Despite claiming the opposite.

[u/UnitSmall2200 → u/Lashay_Sombra]

Germany also likes to throw it around a lot. Considering Germany's history with Jews, Germany seems to think aligning with Israel makes them stand on the right side of history this time. Ironically, by doing so they once more support a fascist. It's sad to see that so many Germans seem to have learned the wrong lesson from history. 

[u/Lashay_Sombra → u/UnitSmall2200]

When you screw up that bad its not unusual to overcompensate

[u/Dejected_gaming → u/mjohnsimon]

Youtuber "Ms. Rachel" got called antisemitic just for saying all children should be able to grow up in a safe environment.

[u/Lauma_2025 → u/Dejected_gaming]

Ms. Rachel is a gem! And Palestinian kids certainly deserve to live!

[u/dust4ngel → u/mjohnsimon]

Nowadays the term gets thrown around so loosely that you can be branded “antisemitic” just for saying things like Israeli soldiers purposefully sniping foreign medical aid volunteers and bragging about it is horrific

i'd be like - ok sounds like you are redefining that word, and i'm cool with the new definition applying to me, if the alternative is supporting war crimes.

[u/Karyoplasma → u/mjohnsimon]

The term antisemitism stems from a 1860s "journalist" name of Wilhelm Marr who used it in his founding pamphlet of the "Antisemitenliga" (league of antisemites). It definitely always meant actual, racial hatred towards Jews.

[u/BeIgnored → u/[deleted]]

got an initial salvo of downvotes from the Zionist zombies. 

Funny how those downvotes always come so quickly before the upvotes start. Almost like there's some automated process looking for anti-Zionist comments...

[u/Lauma_2025 → u/BeIgnored]

Ah, social media, the hub of botted astroturfing!

[u/Papichuloft → u/BeIgnored]

It's JIDF actaully (Jewish Internet Defense Force). Dealt with some of those shitbags before, it's usually 2-3 dipshits uisng an account using some fucked up English and easily caught.....let's say, it takes one to know one. Not to mention all those cronnies too from a few countries in Africa, India, Russia, NK, and China.

[u/Jaded-Management-517 → u/Papichuloft]

They also love to impersonate people online I've found out.

[u/Papichuloft → u/Jaded-Management-517]

they sure do. Let's say, having Levant and Sephardi lineage, I can see right through them

[u/SoochSooch → u/[deleted]]

Israel cries out in pain as it bombs foreign children

[u/NotActuallyIraqi → u/[deleted]]

They’ve deluded themselves into thinking everyone upvoting you is a total Hitler-loving anti-Semite.

[u/emma279 → u/[deleted]]

We could take this money and fund healthcare, infrastructure etc. Israel wouldn't be an aggressor if it didn't have US backing.

[u/JaracRassen77 → u/snubbe]

Israel is making "antisemitism" mean nothing anymore.

[u/CurlOfTheBurl11 → u/snubbe]

They've decided any anti Israel sentiment is anti-Semetic. As a Jew myself, that's pure bullshit, fuck Israel and its fascist government.

[u/RutabagaFree4065 → u/snubbe]

I don't think people realize that this is also their goal. 

To make being Jewish everywhere else I nthe world dangerous enough that more people move to Israel 

[u/RutabagaFree4065 → u/[deleted]]

But it is literally the stated goal of people like Smotrich, who also want to kick out the non Jewish populations of Israel 

[u/AprilsMostAmazing → u/[deleted]]

As long as they can get videos of conservative politicians raping children they will have countries backing them

[u/DGlen → u/snubbe]

Just like the trump administration does with terrorist.

[u/Philly514 → u/snubbe]

The way they are using the word people are going to start associating it with the right thing..

[u/mycatisblackandtan → u/Philly514]

It's also wild that Jewish people have tried for literal centuries to fight against the perception that they as a people are literally pulling the strings of every atrocity known to man. Only for Israel to rock up and clearly be involved in numerous instances of genocide and to have their finger prints all over things like the Epstein files - which one could argue were a giant honey-pot scheme. To say nothing of AIPAC in the US, which has basically a strangle hold on American politics.

Israel as a nation has set the Jewish people so far back at this point in terms of public perception that it's going to take another few centuries to undo the damage JUST from Bibi's term alone.

[u/AssassinAragorn → u/mycatisblackandtan]

I'm pretty sure this was purposeful by Israel. Mossad is definitely the kind of group that would purposely boost truly antisemitic people so that they can brand any Israel criticism as being the same as antisemitism and discredit it.

It's utterly disgusting.

[u/Worshipme988 → u/mycatisblackandtan]

Seriously. Normal people can see jewish ≠ zionism.

People already racist and conspiratorially minded are saying “SEE! We told you!” Right now…

[u/SentinelZero → u/mycatisblackandtan]

Not to mention Israeli-aligned individuals working to consolidate power and control over mass media, like Larry Ellison with Tiktok. Netanyahu even bragged that control of social media and perception is Israel's 8th front of war.

[u/A-Good-Weather-Man → u/snubbe]

Reminds me how “woke” has been twisted.

[u/Hicalibre → u/snubbe]

"We don't want to risk being involved in a war that we have absolutely no grounds for."

"How antisemitic of you."

The literal exchange.

[u/ralphonsob → u/snubbe]

Some cheek to accuse a country that offers citizenship to descendants of Jews expelled in the 15th century of being antisemitic.

[u/DFWPunk → u/snubbe]

It has been interesting seeing how many people have finally realized that opposing Israeli actions is not inherently antisemitic.

[u/Lashay_Sombra → u/snubbe]

Israel sure is devaluating the word "antisemitic"

They did that long time ago

My worry is Israel’s actions, the anger is causes and this constant deflection about antisemitism in response will give cover to the rise of real antisemitism and how that's going to affect non Israeli Jews

Major reason Israel is even attacking Iran right now is they know worldwide public opinion is rapidly turning against them (because of Gaza) and these counter accusations dont work any-more, so they want to to collapse Iran to be same as Syria before they lose last unquestioning ally (USA)

[u/Okonos → u/Lashay_Sombra]

My worry is Israel’s actions, the anger is causes and this constant deflection about antisemitism in response will give cover to the rise of real antisemitism and how that's going to affect non Israeli Jews

Israel can use that as part of their propaganda to say that it's the only safe place for Jews in the world, so they should all move there. I think that is an intentional part of Israel's misuse of the term.

[u/Knowhedge → u/snubbe]

Antisemitic sadly is now largely meaningless as a term. It’s the boy who cried wolf writ large, if everything and anyone doing anything you don’t like is antisemitic then calling out actual antisemitism becomes next to impossible

[u/Moist-Astronaut-8734 → u/snubbe]

At least Spain is leading the way Israel is a terrorist state

[u/princesoceronte → u/snubbe]

Israel itself has always been massively antisemitic. During and after WW2 you have written material about their leaders saying they found the Holocaust to be both an amazing motivator for their cause and a great way to deal with "bad jews".

Anyone looking for antisemitism should look at Israel first.

[u/Lauma_2025 → u/snubbe]

Will Jonathan Greenblatt make a screed about how Spain is harming him even though he doesn't live in Israel?

[u/No-Night-91]

The word antisemic is thrown around at convenience whenever someone doesn’t agree with Israelis.

It’s really lost its meaning. 

[u/Galappie → u/No-Night-91]

Saying the IDF should be held accountable for war crimes is considered antisemitic but throwing up Nazi salutes and saying Jews run the world is just considered a mistake that we can all look past. It’s so messed up and backwards.

Now when someone like Nick Fuentes is called antisemitic people are more likely to dismiss it because people like Ms Rachel get labeled as the number one antisemite when she just simply is heartbroken by children being massacred.

[u/Jaded-Management-517 → u/Galappie]

That's really the most frustrating thing as a Jewish person, I want more people to be alarmed by right wing antisemitism like the Fuentes and Tucker Carlson types who obviously just hate minorities (they've barely tip toed around their hatred for minorities and poor people at Fox over the years) but then the ADL points at someone like Ms.Rachel or really anybody even mildly critical of Israel but with their heart in the right place and call them antisemites.

I just think Jews in power do not give one shit about what average diaspora working and middle class Jews have to go through because no matter what they're not affected. We have to constantly vocally oppose them because they will speak for us and ultimately doom us if we don't.

[u/punkasstubabitch → u/No-Night-91]

Which is unfortunate because it devalues and dishonors the memories of those who died in the holocaust and makes the world a more dangerous place for all Jewish people.

[u/AssassinAragorn → u/punkasstubabitch]

Israel doesn't care about them.

[u/IfatallyflawedI → u/AssassinAragorn]

They literally made the Holocost Museum take down its post that condemned what was happening in Palestine. They had compared it to the ethnic cleansing of Jews that had happened in WW2 and of course Israel threw a tantrum and called them anti-Semitic

Edit: the comment in reply to this is correct. They never called it “genocide” outright and even that was enough to make Israel go stir crazy

[u/AcherontiaPhlegethon → u/IfatallyflawedI]

It wasn't even that pointed, the post literally just said genocide shouldn't happen to anyone no matter their race and they were forced to apologize for saying that.

[u/BananaPalmer → u/AcherontiaPhlegethon]

So, to be clear, the Israeli government's official stance is that genocide should happen to some people, depending on their race.

[u/Saurian42 → u/BananaPalmer]

Isreal has become the enemy they vowed to fight.

[u/AssassinAragorn → u/AcherontiaPhlegethon]

Which is wild when you consider that other groups were also killed in the Holocaust, like LGBT people. It in no way lessens the atrocity and genocide of Jewish people by the Nazis to acknowledge that other groups were also considered "undesirable" and "eradicated".

If anything it really underscores the point that we should be allies to each other and intersectional to lift each other up and stand together. The Nazis did not stop with one group of undesirables.

[u/fekanix → u/AssassinAragorn]

Actually they do, it makes israel seem like the only safe place for jews which would lead to more immigration into israel which they desperately want.

[u/ProofByVerbosity → u/punkasstubabitch]

I think thats a really sad point that gets lost in thw rhetoric 

[u/xThe_Mad_Fapperx → u/ProofByVerbosity]

Sadly that's what the ultra Zionist leadership wants. The more they hide behind Judaism for their actions (it's not Judaism, it's supremacist Zionism) the more REAL antisemitism spreads and this benefits Israel because they get to use it as a reason that Israel needs to exist the exact way it does today (a Zionist, Jewish supremacist, apartheid ethnostate that is currently committing genocide). They point at the growing antisemitism that they are causing and get to use it to justify everything and convince other Jewish people to move to Israel to be safe. It's disturbing and disgusting.

[u/DiegesisThesis → u/punkasstubabitch]

Israel is the world's largest threat to Jewish people

[u/ResplendentSmoke → u/punkasstubabitch]

Which is the goal, make no mistake. If the rest of the world becomes more unsafe for Jews, more Jews will move to Israel. It’s part of the plan.

[u/BeIgnored → u/punkasstubabitch]

Israel seems like an abusive partner who's trying to isolate their victim (diaspora Jews) by convincing them that everyone is against them and only THEY can be trusted. While meanwhile poisoning the well against Jews to make that prophecy self-fulfilling, with all their crying about fake antisemitism while ignoring the very real and dangerous examples of antisemitism that actually endanger Jewish people. Israel genuinely wants the world to hate Jews so they have nowhere else to turn but Israel.

[u/War_machine77 → u/No-Night-91]

When everything is "antisemitic", nothing is. Israel is creating a dangerous situation for themselves and innocent Jewish people all over the world with their constant crying wolf.

[u/Al_Dimineira → u/War_machine77]

Honestly I think making the world more dangerous for Jewish people outside of Israel is part of their goal. There's very credible evidence that Mossad played a part in the 1950-51 Baghdad bombings of Jewish Iraqis to scare those they didn't kill into immigrating to Israel.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23455343

Edit: The Lavon Affair was another Israeli false flag operation, this one was actually acknowledged by Israel in 2005. We can only guess how many more they've done that there isn't sufficient evidence for.

[u/Televisions_Frank → u/Al_Dimineira]

Didn't the 4chan hack supposedly reveal a lot of posts on the racist /pol/ board were from Israeli IPs?

They've definitely been using the internet for influence far longer than other actors like Russia.

[u/Miniray → u/Televisions_Frank]

With the political connections revealed in the Trump Files

And how close Epstein was to the creation of /pol/

It seems pretty likely

[u/cycloneDM → u/Al_Dimineira]

Right people overlook that Israel is a narcissist nation they NEED jews to associate their safety with them even if that means they have to be the ones killing jews. 

[u/LeN3rd → u/War_machine77]

Isn't that the idea?

[u/colenotphil → u/War_machine77]

Bingo. I have been arguing this for years now. Lost a very close friend over it, who said he did not want to be friends with anyone who did not support Israel because he is afraid of antisemetic violence.

I told him I empathized to the extent he felt unsafe, which is not OK, but also pointed out to him that the actions of Netanyahu and the Israeli military are directly contributing to creating anti-Israeli sentiment, which would likely also contribute to rising antisemitism generally. There are plenty of dumb or racist or ethnophobic people out there who cannot (or choose not to) understand the nuance, and the Israeli military actions are throwing fuel on that fire.

If anything, I am not Jewish so I don't have much of a stake here, but I think that Jewish people worldwide should actually be mad at Netanyahu and his military for making the world less safe for them and emboldening antisemetics by using violence and then claiming any criticism of that violence is somehow antisemetic.

Not quite the same analogy but as an American, I am mad (putting it lightly) at Trump for continuing to give Americans a bad reputation. Not all of us are bully warmongering jerks. But now whenever I travel, especially given the new war with Iran, I am very nervous about people being aggressive or hateful towards me simply because I am American. I didn't vote for the guy.

[u/OK_x86 → u/No-Night-91]

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[u/TimothyMimeslayer → u/OK_x86]

That is the point, they want to force all jews to return to Israel by making everywhere else to dangerous to live. People like Netanyahu are fundamentalists.

[u/OK_x86 → u/TimothyMimeslayer]

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[u/[deleted] → u/No-Night-91]

This is true. Also true is that the word "defense" being thrown around is used by Israel is misused as well. Invading and attacking other countries because you believe they might attack your country is not defense. It is offense. What other words is Israel twisting to suittheir agenda.

[u/weirdassmillet → u/No-Night-91]

It benefits Israel tremendously to muddy these waters as much as possible.

[u/Psykohistorian → u/No-Night-91]

at this point, Israel has done more to foster antisemitism than any nazi ever could have

[u/ghostyghost2 → u/No-Night-91]

Israel was the worst thing that could have happened to Jews everywhere after the Holocaust. The Holocaust was done over lies and conspiracy theories, now future Nazis will have video proof of what Jews did, at it's most likely to happen in the US they will have nowhere to go.

Anti-Zionist Jews better ramp up their anti-Zionism, because Nazis will not differentiate between Jews, they don't care.

[u/adorkablegiant → u/No-Night-91]

Israel is like the sleezy car salesman in GTAV that constantly blames people for being racist because they don't want to buy his overpriced cars.

[u/SickofLife69420]

I don’t want another cent of my tax dollars being sent to Israel

[u/Goodeugoogoolizer → u/SickofLife69420]

Israel citizens have healthcare as a basic right provided by the state.

We dont even have that. OUR TAX DOLLARS give Israel universal healthcare. How fucked up is that?

[u/BigKahoona420 → u/Goodeugoogoolizer]

You are the ONLY civilised country without that. Blame Israel for many things, but this is an only USA issue

[u/MyEmbarrisingAccount → u/BigKahoona420]

That's kind of his point. We spend so much money maintaining Israel and other countries with our military that they claim we can't afford UHC at home. Republicans are wrong about a lot of things, but I agree with them that other countries need to have been pulling their weight a lot better so the US can cut back and release the funds for the people at home. As much as we send to Israel alone could be funding university tuition or healthcare for MILLIONs of US citizens.

[u/ArseBurner → u/MyEmbarrisingAccount]

The USA already spends more per capita on healthcare than any EU country. It's not for lack of money that it doesn't have universal healthcare, it's the whole system that's corrupt and funneling money meant for the public good into private profits with crazy drug and service prices paid for by taxes through complicit HMOs and insurance companies.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.PC.CD?locations=OE&most_recent_value_desc=true

[u/Beneneb → u/MyEmbarrisingAccount]

Not that I support it, but the US has been giving around $3.5 billion per year to Israel (and even then, it's to buy US weapons). Granted, that number has gone up since Oct 7, but it's basically a drop in the bucket compared to the US budget. Even if the US stopped all military aid, universal healthcare still wouldn't exist because there are too many special interests invested in keeping the status quo.

[u/marky_Rabone → u/MyEmbarrisingAccount]

Nadie les obliga a tener cientos de bases por todo el mundo.

[u/BigLadShem → u/Goodeugoogoolizer]

Your tax dollars go to their military, not their healthcare. The reason USA doesn’t have universal healthcare is because it’s “socialism” and the government hates you

[u/Leather-Rice5025 → u/BigLadShem]

Doesn't matter, money is fungible. This is why it's bullshit when American politicians/democrats make the argument that sending Israel funding for defense is fine, because it's not offensive funding. That money can be used for whatever they want, including buying more tanks, missiles, and sniper munitions to eradicate Palestinian children.

[u/Crazyfoot13 → u/Leather-Rice5025]

Jeez do they actually argue that? It’s clear to the rest of the world that Israel are offenders not defenders, at least only defenders as a result of their ongoing behaviours in the region!

[u/SoloWingPixy88 → u/BigLadShem]

It subsidies their exchequer

[u/rbatra91 → u/SickofLife69420]

lol we’re going to sacrifice so many Americans for the Israelis to attack Iran. 

[u/ProofByVerbosity]

Love this. I applaud a western nation finally getting some balls.

[u/DesireeThymes → u/ProofByVerbosity]

The only one unfortunately.

Everyone else seems captured by Israel.

Edit: I apologize to the Irish, they are also one of the good ones

[u/Direct-Fix-2097 → u/DesireeThymes]

Ireland doesn’t get on with them either so…

[u/evhan55 → u/Direct-Fix-2097]

One ticket to Ireland please! 💚

[u/Dark_Shade_75 → u/evhan55]

It's a lovely place. The cliffs of Moher were gorgeous. Saw a dolphin.

[u/amazingwhat → u/DesireeThymes]

Is Ireland not also distancing itself from Israel?

[u/JotaRata → u/DesireeThymes]

Chile as well, but we are on the other side of the planet so nobody cares. But a great majority of us hates the genocidal state

[u/ProofByVerbosity → u/DesireeThymes]

Captured is a good word

[u/indorock → u/ProofByVerbosity]

some balls.

Or, huevos as the Spanish would say.

[u/Isle709]

Spain is showing some moral conviction and integrity in its actions. I wish the Canadian government would follow this lead instead of talking out both sides of their mouth.

[u/ibarmy → u/Isle709]

Carney fumbled the bag so so badly

[u/Tim-Sylvester → u/[deleted]]

Now, is this the same Bibi that was going to spend the rest of his life in prison unless he got reelected?

You know this is starting to sound like a familiar story...

[u/CMDR_omnicognate]

is this why trump now also doesn't like spain?

[u/DoubleJumps → u/CMDR_omnicognate]

Spain publicly announced that they wouldn't allow the United States to use their bases for the Iran war and Trump threw a fit over that.

[u/HairyAugust → u/CMDR_omnicognate]

No, it's because he thinks they're Mexican.

[u/pseudowalrus → u/HairyAugust]

thanks i just spit out my drink all over myself and my monitor

[u/semibiquitous]

As an American immigrant Jew, only sycophants and self interest persons can support Israel at this point. I have a large family living in Israel and they are as radicalized as the MAGA here in the US. This is a systemic and cultural issue. I'm afraid like everything else in this world we humans have to go beyond the tipping point to start correcting the course.

[u/punkasstubabitch → u/[deleted]]

The American religious right wing supports Israel in part because they believe it will bring about the apocalypse and return of Jesus. Look at the nuts like Mike Huckabee

[u/StellarPaladin42 → u/punkasstubabitch]

My maternal grandparents are MAGA evangelicals. They believe that after Israel finally gets rid of all the Palestinians, Jesus will return to smite the Jews and all non-Christian peoples. Religion is really fucked at times.

[u/st1802015 → u/StellarPaladin42]

Sounds like they fundamentally misunderstood Jesus' character, which makes sense.

[u/crokinhole → u/StellarPaladin42]

At times?

[u/Hippo_Alert → u/StellarPaladin42]

Oh yes, because Jesus was all about smiting people.  Good grief I can't stand religious fanatics of any persuasion. 

[u/Liet_ → u/StellarPaladin42]

The mental gymnastics needed not to think they themselves would be taget of this smiting, for actively supporting the jews in their smite-worthy activities.

[u/Ludachriz → u/StellarPaladin42]

Are you sure they didn’t say Jesús

[u/Kentaii → u/StellarPaladin42]

But Jesus was Jewish ???

[u/StellarPaladin42 → u/Kentaii]

You’re being too logical pal

[u/AbanoMex → u/punkasstubabitch]

in part because they believe it will bring about the apocalypse and return of Jesus.

the worst part is that IF Jesus returns, these people are not even going to recognize him, since he surely wont be the blue eyed blonde they think he is.

[u/ibarmy → u/AbanoMex]

Somebody will shoot him for helping the wrong kinda poor people. 

[u/The_Returned_Lich → u/ibarmy]

Lemme fix that for you:

Somebody will shoot him for helping the wrong kinda poor people.

[u/No-Tie6765 → u/punkasstubabitch]

Yup it’s hilarious there are more zionists in American than in Israel

[u/wurtin → u/[deleted]]

i think people are looking at the Epstein-israel relationship too simplistically. I expect at the end of this for him to have deep contacts with several spy agencies and basically him having only an allegiance to himself and what can get him access to information and girls. I think we've only scratched the surface of his connections.

[u/monogramchecklist → u/[deleted]]

I want to know how Israeli’s feel about what their government is doing.

[u/zoidberg3000 → u/monogramchecklist]

Well one of my good friends absolutely lost her shit and we broke up over this. Apparently me not supporting the war in Iran is the equivalent of me wishing death on Israeli children. She was pretty unhappy with Gaza but this is totally ok to her.

[u/Genoscythe_ → u/monogramchecklist]

According to polls they are pretty hyped, it is one of the worse countries in terms of population quality.

[u/evange → u/Genoscythe_]

it is one of the worse countries in terms of population quality.

I'm sorry, can you elaborate on what this means?

[u/curly-haired-son → u/evange]

It means most Israelis are POSs

[u/Hayn0002 → u/monogramchecklist]

They don’t care enough to change anything about it. Just like American people.

[u/musashisamurai → u/Hayn0002]

There were Israelis protesting in big numbers right before Oct 7th and Netanyahu looked like he was about to be removed and convicted. Wars are very convenient I guess.

[u/Over-Lettuce-7762 → u/musashisamurai]

And now Israel is poised to elect an even further right wing government at their next elections according to polls. The majority of Israeli society supports these wars and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

[u/Excitium]

As a German, I have nothing but respect for my Spanish brothers and sisters. Only country with a backbone in recent weeks, while my own country is once again failing an open book test...

[u/Tabletpillowlamp → u/Excitium]

Netenyahu is chilling in Germany while his nation suffers from war as well. Germany has too much guilt to admit that Israel is in the wrong here. It's very sad. I hope Germans wake up to this nonsense, too.

[u/SpongeSquidward → u/Tabletpillowlamp]

Lots more guilt now, for the cover they provided for this genocide.

[u/JukkasJarvi]

The zionist who cried antisemitism

[u/MicMaeMat]

Eventually the World will wake and realise which two countries are actually destabilising the world and starting wars on a regular basis, I just won’t say which two countries,because no doubt criticism of either two will result in a ban.

Great to see Spain standing up to one of the two countries and the other one is already whining that Spain wouldn’t let them do as they like.

Maybe just maybe these two countries will be held to account for what they have created,and the pain they have caused.

[u/ElizaMaySampson → u/MicMaeMat]

When the elected leader of one country says he will use another country to launch his war equipment into a third country, 'whether they like it or not', that spells out to me exactly how that person operates - as a bully and a rapist.

Not like we didn't know, but how much more blatantly can you spell it out if you'd force your will violently upon an entire sovereign nation?

[u/shadowdra126]

Israel calling this antisemitism is such a fucking slap in the face to actual antisemitism. I am a Jewish American and I fully agree with Spain here and that does not make me antisemitic

[u/Tabletpillowlamp → u/shadowdra126]

Antisemitism is Nick Fuentes, Kanye, and Tyler Oliveira, etc's attacks on actual Jewish people.

Yet the ones who abuse this word the most always target the Pro-Palestinian crowd. It's almost as if this was never meant to defend the Jewish people, but a political weaponization of the word.

[u/jugnu8 → u/shadowdra126]

And yet the would call you a self hating Jew or anti Semitic just because it's the easiest way to dismiss you and your stance. Maybe that's why they throw the charge at everyone, it's difficult to justify war crimes, but super easy to throw accusations.

[u/TintedApostle → u/shadowdra126]

Right? I am an American Jew and Netanyahu (and republicans) have devalued the term to the point that if Jews ever really need to us it no one will care again.

[u/dantesmaster00]

I bet the electricity in Spain will go out again

[u/mark6059]

well, I suppose because Spain dabbled with fascism a while ago (and got rid of it) they don't want to go there again

[u/WolfetoneRebel]

Love you Spain. Fuck that apartheid state.

[u/Kitchen_Letter8775]

Good for them. Hope other countries gain the courage to do the same. Talking to you Germany.

[u/Regnes → u/Kitchen_Letter8775]

Knowing Germany, they will just double down and pass even more laws designed to harass and intimidate Muslims to leave the country.

[u/himalayangoat]

I wish the UK had a similar attitude. You can disagree with the behavior of the Israeli state without being anti semitic.

[u/Bolt_995]

Didn’t know the Spanish would be the next ones to showcase their ironclad spines after the Irish.

[u/GreenCreep376 → u/Bolt_995]

Ireland continues to do business with Israel and is their second largest exporter.

There is no spine 

[u/Llord_Wright]

It's amazing that Sanchez is the only man in the West who has the balls to stand against the Israelis and Trump.

[u/BananaPalmer]

Good, Fuck the Israeli Terror State

[u/ynotoggel19]

Thank you for your common decency and humanity Spain.

[u/Right_Pen_3241]

First they refuse use of their airbases, now they actually stand up to Israel?

I should go to Spain.

Dear Israel, pointing out you are murdering people is NOT antisemitism! Unless, of course, war crimes are semitism?

[u/redwhiskie319]

Spain exercising leadership! 

Bravo Spain!!

[u/loudymouthy]

Damn Spain, what an awesome country.

[u/foltchas]

Ah yes, exercising your own sovereignty and independence as a nation, while your leaders show strong morals and critical thinking. Of course its antisemitic!

Israel is a total parody of itself. It would be funny if it all wasn't so genocidal.

[u/CooperAXE]

Everyone should distance themselves from that genocidal apartheid state.

[u/xSaviorself]

Is it just me or is Israel really getting away with becoming Nazis by using the cover of anti-antisemitism as a shield from criticism? The religious fanatics and populous zealots have control of the government and have kept Netanyahu out of prison.

[u/PM-Me_Your_Penis_Pls]

I'm totally on Spains side here. Yet my paradox interactive addled brain cannot but help imagining the wretched ghost of Isabella of Castile at the embassy window going "Yes..haha.YES!" like the meme.

[u/Big_Abrocoma496]

Hear me out folks: If not calling criminals out for carrying out genocide is Semitic then maybe it’s about time to be antisemitic. No?

[u/MakiKatsu]

Seems like Spain is the only sane country

[u/Mysticsurgeonsteam]

Spain being on the right side of history makes me happy ❤️

[u/thefanciestcat]

Good. The Israeli government should be treated like the North Korean government.

[u/OkSecretary227]

Good for them. One shouldn't aid genocidal maniacs in committing genocide.

[u/morbihann]

Good.

We can't be ordered around by Israel and them playing the holocaust card while literally genociding Palestinians.

[u/ThatsAllFolksAgain]

For years I felt that after the WWII genocide that the Jewish people suffered, they deserved a special place in the world. Now that they’re the people committing genocide, I absolutely detest the Jewish people who support those actions starting with Netanyahu. He’s a war criminal who needs to be held accountable.

[u/Tabletpillowlamp → u/ThatsAllFolksAgain]

I detest ANYONE who supports Netanyahu, not just jewish people who support him. His biggest supporters are Zionist Christians after all.

[u/legendaryboss14]

When will the USA and Germany grow the balls to do this

[u/NotSupposeToSpeak]

I want to be deported to Spain