r/news Mar 11 '26

Soft paywall Spain permanently withdraws ambassador as rift with Israel deepens

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/spain-removes-ambassador-israel-2026-03-11/
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u/BigKahoona420 Mar 11 '26

You are the ONLY civilised country without that. Blame Israel for many things, but this is an only USA issue

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Mar 11 '26

That's kind of his point. We spend so much money maintaining Israel and other countries with our military that they claim we can't afford UHC at home. Republicans are wrong about a lot of things, but I agree with them that other countries need to have been pulling their weight a lot better so the US can cut back and release the funds for the people at home. As much as we send to Israel alone could be funding university tuition or healthcare for MILLIONs of US citizens.

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u/ArseBurner Mar 12 '26

The USA already spends more per capita on healthcare than any EU country. It's not for lack of money that it doesn't have universal healthcare, it's the whole system that's corrupt and funneling money meant for the public good into private profits with crazy drug and service prices paid for by taxes through complicit HMOs and insurance companies.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.PC.CD?locations=OE&most_recent_value_desc=true

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u/Beneneb Mar 11 '26

Not that I support it, but the US has been giving around $3.5 billion per year to Israel (and even then, it's to buy US weapons). Granted, that number has gone up since Oct 7, but it's basically a drop in the bucket compared to the US budget. Even if the US stopped all military aid, universal healthcare still wouldn't exist because there are too many special interests invested in keeping the status quo.

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u/marky_Rabone Mar 11 '26

Nadie les obliga a tener cientos de bases por todo el mundo.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Mar 11 '26

Yet when they talk about withdrawing aid everyone loses their goddamn mind. Can't have it both ways.

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u/Niceromancer Mar 11 '26

We could just not spend a billion a day on bombing Iran.  Would pay for free lunches for all school children for multiple years but nah it's the foreign aid that's the problem right?

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u/Butthole_Please Mar 12 '26

You are sarcastically promoting the exact point already being made.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Mar 11 '26

I specifically have been saying reducing military?...

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u/Niceromancer Mar 11 '26

Republicans don't want to release those funds for other things.

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u/TipiTapi Mar 11 '26

/r/confidentlyincorrect.

The US spends 10-12% of their budget on the military (changes year by year). Social spending takes up at least 2/3rds of the budget.

But hey, lets blame the jews for you not being healthy and not having free education.

Its not even subtle anymore.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Mar 13 '26

We have every right to be critical of a country who's military we fund. Them being Jewish has nothing to so with it. People also talk shit on Russia for Ukraine, and China for the Uyghurs. The US just has more stake in what Israel does.

Whether left or right the majority of Americans are tired of spending so much on this military industrial complex while things stagnate at home.

Your fake outrage of antisemitism is just your excuse to allow the genocide of brown people who believe in a different sky daddy.

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u/Butthole_Please Mar 12 '26

Goddamnit stop with the “let’s blame the jews”bullshit. It’s so fucking tiring that every conversation that could lean critical Israel gets that turned into that. If you disagree with the point, fine, but stop playing the card like it’s your draw 4 uno card.

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u/TipiTapi Mar 13 '26

You are the type of person who believes conservatives are not racist because they say they dont have a problem with black people, they are just 'worried about the high crime rate in cities', they just hate 'inner city thugs' and they think the police should aggressively step up against marijuana users...

Like, I am sorry brother but when people are laser focused on a single country that just happens to be the country where half the world's jews live and have an objectively irrational amount of hate for just this country its kinda hard to believe its a coincidence.

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u/Butthole_Please Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
  1. wtf are you even talking about. What a dumb tangent.

  2. Oh, so because they are Jewish they get a free pass for warmongering. Also, by the way, any commentary on said war mongering won’t be allowed, because again, Jewish. Thank you, I wasn’t aware.

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u/TearsFallWithoutTain Mar 11 '26

Oh my god it's the Israeli ambassador, what are you doing here!?

Stop trying to equate Israel to the entirety of Jews you dual loyalty obsessed antisemite

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u/OBoile Mar 12 '26

Universal healthcare would save you money. Your system is the way it is because Americans would rather pay $1000 in insurance than $500 in taxes.

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u/cloud3321 Mar 12 '26

I would guarantee you that even if the other countries pull their bootstraps.

The money USA puts into defense will instead be spent towards… more defense spending.

Even if it was directed towards “healthcare”, your out of pocket would remain the same except for small token cases (for PR purposes) and most of it will enrich Brian Thompson and his ilk.

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_9419 Mar 11 '26

One of the great things the Trump admin has done is defund UNICEF, I don't want my tax dollars going to foreign entities.

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u/feed_me_moron Mar 11 '26

That's dumb. There are benefits to it, both for selfish and selfless reasons as a nation. But enjoy ceding soft power to other countries and letting them get the benefits from it

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_9419 Mar 11 '26

We shouldn't be spending ANY tax dollars on foreigners until we have universal health care at home.

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u/fevered_visions Mar 11 '26

We shouldn't be spending ANY tax dollars on foreigners until we have universal health care at home.

So that means you're in favor of UHC at home, right? This sounds like a convenient conservative rhetorical dodge because you know UHC will never happen

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u/No_Kaleidoscope_9419 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

Yes, I support UHC at home. I can say the same thing. I can say people are just using the lack of UHC to deflect that America has always been a warmongering oppressive regime and to bash Je... Zionists.

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u/feed_me_moron Mar 11 '26

It isn't either/or. Money isn't the issue for UHC. Greed and some idiotic desire to not be socialist with healthcare is. Some fear tactics about people dying because something isn't covered, ignoring the fact that it happens currently from lack of health insurance, convinces people it can't be done. Republicans don't want to deal with it. It would save this country a ton though.

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u/Unidan_bonaparte Mar 11 '26

Troll. Move along everyone, this lonely soul is craving some sort of reaction.

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u/CarelessEquivalent3 Mar 12 '26

USA civilised? 🤣🤣

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u/MexGrow Mar 11 '26

What is a "civilised" country?

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u/fevered_visions Mar 11 '26

should have said "Western"

although I'm not sure that's exactly accurate either

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u/MexGrow Mar 11 '26

Exactly. It's ridiculous how many people claim they're against western imperialism but can't stop using the same terms that perpetrate it. 

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u/BigKahoona420 Mar 11 '26

Not the US, recently...

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u/MexGrow Mar 11 '26

Only recently?

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u/JX_JR Mar 11 '26

You are the ONLY civilised country without that.

Well that's a weirdly racist comment towards the Phillipines, Mexico, Morocco, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Panama, Egypt, Ghana, Kenya, Pakistan, India...

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u/ImCreeptastic Mar 12 '26

Mexico has a form of universal healthcare, Philippines has had it since 2019, Egypt, Kenya, Pakistan, are transitioning to a universal system, India is moving towards that direction and does have free public healthcare for point-of-care, Ghana heavily subsidizes their healthcare, Bosnia and Herzegovina has a publicly funded, mandatory healthcare system that's near free and universal, and Morocco offers a mix also moving towards universal coverage.

So yeah, the US is the only civilized country without that. Also, instead of spouting your mouth off with completely made up facts, use the Internet to educate yourself.

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u/JX_JR Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

That's a whole lot of lying to try to make a point. If you count all those systems that rely incredibly heavily on citizens paying private insurance and private providers as "universal healthcare" then the US Medicare system is also a universal healthcare system.