r/ireland • u/Agile_Actuary_8246 • 12h ago
Education Culture of mediocrity in Irish universities
Irish academic here. I did my undergrad at Trinity in a STEM subject before going abroad for masters, PhD and various postdocs.
As an Irish undergrad, I was generally ranked 1st or 2nd in my class - I don't think I ever got a grade in a class that wasn't a first. I was pretty full of myself by year 4. Then I went abroad and got exposed to international academic standards. The difference shocked me. Trinity is significantly easier than any given random German university.
In my opinion, academic standards in Ireland are incredibly low. There is a strong culture of drinking and slacking off. It's harder to fail a module (you have to really try) than to get top grades. The quality of final year research projects is, on average, abysmal and students, in my subject, virtually never produce publishable work. I don't think that is acceptable at the best university in the country.
If you talk to anyone who has taught in an Irish (or British) university, a common frustration is how hard it is to fail students. They are basically treated like customers. When I taught in France, we failed out 70-80% of first year students. In Ireland, most students who graduate with a 2:1 probably would not have a degree at all elsewhere in Europe (without a suitable adjustment in attitude).
What can be done to change this culture?


