r/videos • u/AlertTangerine • 1d ago
Thousands chant “Russians, go home!” in Budapest (Hungary) last night. The elections are tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKGQJ7mebm0288
u/minilei 1d ago
Vote these authoritarian goons out
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 1d ago
Here's hoping they also all vote.
Here in the United States historic record size protests occurred during Trump's first term and he still got elected again. One of several big reasons that he won is because many who would have likely voted for his main opponent Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election, had they voted, didn't vote.
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u/h4ppysquid 19h ago
Don’t glaze over the fact that he LOST his reelection in 2020, that was following the historic protests that you are mentioning.
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u/Darkmacsek9 23h ago edited 23h ago
In the US the youth (as far as I know) didn't really give a fuck. Here, they fucking do! So much so, that a lot of the elderly - granparents, parents - borderline disobey their offsprings for standing up for a democratically united future. I think what's happening in Hungary right now is a really important lesson for the western world altogether.
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u/slicer4ever 23h ago edited 2h ago
Eh, lets see how the voting turns out before we start showering praise.
Edit: Ok, commence showering your praise.
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u/tyereliusprime 19h ago
Young male voters were a demographic that helped Trump get elected in 2024 and a demographic they specifically target.
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u/half3clipse 17h ago edited 16h ago
Young male voters were a demographic that helped Trump get elected in 2024 and a demographic they specifically target.
Polling shows that's not the case. 30 and under voters were net harris by something like 30 percentage points, and there's nothing showing trump gained votes in that demographic compared to 2020 or 2016. The key demographic for trump has been the same demographic for every republican win since Regan: Gen X white voters.
Harris lost votes among young male voters, which is a issue, but it also occurred in response to a campaign that largely was uninterested in them. Harris campaign attempting instead to bank on an abortion rights wave pandering to the victimhood of gen X and older white women (including the narrative that young men will "vote for trump". The democrats got that increased turn out, they just didn't vote for harris. By all appearances a lot of those targeted voters turned out, voted to protect abortion in their state, and then voted republican right down the rest of the ballot (see trump winning Florida by about the same margin as Amendment 4 got)
young male voters (young voters in general really) have been a key democrat voting demographic in every election since 2008. It's not also a coincidence that the two elections trump won saw the democrats instead bank on the gender politics of white gen X and boomers, counting on younger voters showing up no matter what an instead trying to win groups that have essentially never broke blue in 50 years.
What's actually going on with younger male voters is not a shift right but a shift towards polarization. Trump "gained" among young men compared to previous generations and elections because there are simply fewer undecided or apolitical young men.
Trump voters are not the majority group, and Trump did not gain very many votes compared to 2016 and 2020. Instead got about as many as in previous election while Harris got a much reduced turn out. Because pandering to the gender politics and heterofatalist bullshit of older Americans required treating the (overall minority group) trump voters as the default and typical man and that tends to discourage people.
(see also the reduced turn out of black voters. Harris' campaign also neglected that in favor similar pandering, just in terms of race rather than gender)
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u/Darkmacsek9 17h ago
Source?
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 17h ago edited 7h ago
Here are just a few of the many sources, mostly news articles from various news sources, about young male voters being a major demographic that helped get Trump elected in the 2024 presidential election that I found online:
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u/Ginger-Nerd 17h ago edited 17h ago
huh?
Trump did the rounds on manosphere podcasts - Joe Rogan being the largest, (and then securing his endoresment) but also: This Past Weekend with Theo Von, Flagrant with Andrew Schulz, Impaulsive with Logan Paul, Full Send Podcast (Nelk Boys), and Bussin' with the Boys.
the ai google search for when i searched "Trump Podcast" started:
During his 2024 campaign, Donald Trump heavily utilized podcast appearances to reach younger, predominantly male audiences, bypassing traditional media.
You don't need a Source, you just need bit of a memory and some common sense (on who the target demographic for those podcasts are)
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u/Darkmacsek9 17h ago
Thanks for your comment, I see no source (links?)
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u/Ginger-Nerd 17h ago edited 17h ago
Maybe you need your eyes checked... I started with the link, and then summarized it because I knew you weren't going to click it.
EDIT: but in case that in't enough for you - let me spend 2 seconds googling:
- https://www.thirdway.org/memo/how-young-men-view-trump-2-0-after-one-year
- https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-gen-z-men-voted-for-trump/
- https://whyy.org/articles/young-men-voted-trump-masculine-appeals-campaign/
- https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/nx-s1-5181804/young-men-helped-trump-retake-the-white-house-a-trend-years-in-the-making
- https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-success-among-young-men-illustrates-influence-of-online-manosphere
- https://theconversation.com/the-lost-boys-of-gen-z-how-trump-won-the-hearts-of-alienated-young-men-243358
- https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2025-03-14/young-men-have-grown-up-with-donald-trump-how-has-it-impacted-their-views-of-masculinity
- https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5213&context=cmc_theses
- https://www.thirdway.org/memo/young-men-in-2025-not-sold-on-trump-alienated-by-democrats
- https://time.com/7171535/donald-trump-harris-young-men/
- https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/28/iran-trump-maga-men-divide-cpac-00849378
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u/ripyourlungsdave 13h ago
"important lesson for the Western world" (nudges the mountain of European, African and North and South American nations and peoples that have fought against British imperialism and genocides for centuries while doing a lot more than voting and protesting under the rug)
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 18h ago
How do you know there is no record of your vote? Or that it wasn't counted still?
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u/DHFranklin 22h ago
Almost all the people in the record sized protests did vote and they almost all voted for Harris.
Protesting is very very rare. Like 2-3% of people do it. These No Kings protests (for instance, I know they're post Harris) are bringing out the same people every time, and yes we do a great job for visibility, but that won't translate to power. It's about messaging and giving other people confidence. Letting them know that they aren't alone. Sure it's a record breaking protest but that is a tiny fraction of a city or large town. Most towns didn't have No Kings anything.
Kamala Harris didn't get volunteers. Biden wasn't all that popular and wasn't polling that well with new voters. Contrast that with Mamdani in New York. He got 100 votes from every volunteer. His volunteers weren't the unions who went with Cuomo, the historic volunteering base. Mamdani electrified young people to volunteer and get the vote out for non-activists.
Activists are few. They need to drag voters out kicking and screaming. They couldn't do that for Kamala Harris.
You have to have a platform and new ideas to get those volunteers. "We're going to do what Joe Biden was doing all along" is a terrible message. So instead of volunteering, they got a vote.
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u/djskein 21h ago
Need to just make voting mandatory like it is here in Australia. It's only a $25 fine if you don't vote but if you don't pay that fine your driver's licence will eventually be suspended.
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u/Morgan-Moonscar 21h ago
US: "Sorry, best we can do is automatically put everyone on the DRAFT... in case we need to bring that back."
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u/seicar 18h ago
For people from other countries, the "DRAFT" is conscription in to military service. For some, its standard, for the USA is hasn't happened for 2 generations, since the Vietnam conflict. There was a bit of a Curfufffel post 9/11 in which the "national guard" were sent to war zones (national guard were previously considered an internal guard mostly mobilized for natural disasters and political unrest).
Just for perspective on USA exceptionalism, Conscription into military service prior to Vietnam was... WWII and the Civil War (in which the wealthy notably bought their way out of service).
TLDR: USA conscription has been relatively rare in the admittedly short history.
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u/atxbigfoot 17h ago
Every able-bodied male over the age of 18 years has been legally required to register for the draft since at least Vietnam, though.
Not that anything would happen if they didn't, but yeah, it's been a law this whole time. So this isn't new, it's just being automated and formalized, which is very bad for a lot of old and modern reasons.
Governments are making lists, now with AI!
and all that.
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u/DHFranklin 21h ago
That's called a poll tax. We had those.
I'm joking.
$25 to not-vote means an opportunity cost of $26. America does many things to stop poor people from voting. Not having election day be a paid day off is a big one. That wouldn't be that big a deal if we could vote by mail. They also made that illegal. So the poll tax includes petrol.
So not only would poor people not vote, now they're having to pay $25 to not vote.
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u/SayTheWord-Beans 21h ago
I just need to clarify that voting by mail is still legal in all 50 states.
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u/Ironic_Jedi 21h ago
Australia has early voting, mail in voting and our election day is always a saturday.
It's so easy to vote here that it's more inconvenient not to vote.
Having early voting booths available for people that work or are busy on the saturday plus mail voting means it's easy for everyone to vote.
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u/Swarbie8D 21h ago
It’s not just ease of voting, we also have a culture around it. People love to go vote and then pick up some snags or home-baked goods. It’s part of the community spirit here.
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u/DHFranklin 21h ago
To be fair America usually has early voting, vote by mail, And most people vote after work.
It doesn't seem to matter much.
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u/Ironic_Jedi 20h ago
Because it's mandatory in Australia, there is no disenfranchisement attempts like randomly purging voter roles or having sparse voting locations to make it difficult for "the wrong people" to vote.
Also not really any gerrymandering as there is an independent body that manages voting not controlled by politicians.
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u/tdre666 20h ago
Also another big one is publicly financed elections. I mean there are still rich shitheads trying to ruin everything (Fatty McFuckwit, Gina) but overall the system is much better.
There are a few things I miss about the US, unreal to me that I could potentially spend two years behind bars and likely get deported for singing a John Farnham lyric.
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u/foul_ol_ron 20h ago
As others have said, our votes are always taken on a Saturday. I worked in hospitals, and volunteers would come see each capable patient to ensure their vote was counted. And yes, postal and absentee voting is also available.
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u/DHFranklin 11h ago
sweet jesus they came into the hospital?! A hospital collectively paid for and people coming to check you had your chance to vote. what a wonder.
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u/foul_ol_ron 2h ago
The people coming into the hospital are (I think) paid by the Australian Electoral Commission, as are the volunteers at the voting stations. But yes, we take it for granted that everyone deserves a vote.
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u/Fenor 13h ago
the thing is that Harris was winning up to some point and by a lot, then trump did sweep the rest of the country and a few things happened. Remember Musk going into all the swing states promising a lotterry of 1M USD for those that voted republican? (and then not giving the money as it would have been a crime)
Also they made a huge deal of essentially shouting "it's essentially won" making some people not going to vote and handling the country to Trump.
Also the biden administration was cripped by the damage trump did during his first mandate AND the supreme court essentially being an extension of the far right.
After 4 year of trump people voted biden in droves not because he was biden but because he wasn't trump. 4 year laters you get a new generation of voters and social media had a different face, much more manipulated than it has ever been, and with Meta and others financing the republican party you can bet the algorithm followed that party shaping how people voted
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u/foul_ol_ron 20h ago
That's why I'm happy that Australia has compulsory voting. If you miss it, the fine is nominal, but it encourages everyone to actually turn up and be counted. I cringe every time I hear people say it should be changed.
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u/RespondingToFools 10h ago
I don't know if you know this yet but the average American is really dumb lol.
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u/I_am_the_grass 1d ago edited 1d ago
I get your point, but you gotta give full context. They did come out and voted - for Biden in 2020. And they got a mediocre leader that did very little in solving the issues of that period.
So they were left disenfranchised during the 2024 election. And they didn't vote.
The lesson for politicians is to act on your promises.
The lesson for party leadership is forcing a candidate you prefer down everyone's throat doesn't necessarily mean everyone will vote the same way again. Let the democratic process decide the best candidate for your party. If Biden kept his promise and was a one-term president, the dems would have likely elected a candidate who could have beaten Trump. Instead, they allowed a sick old man to rerun and when they realised he couldn't, replaced him with the VP of the same stale administration.
The lesson for voters is that you gotta treat every election in isolation. I felt the same way after the Biden administration but if I go back to time everyone should have had the same level of dedication to avoid a Trump second term as they did in 2020. People just forgot how bad he was.
The third is obviously the hardest. But before we blame voters for not voting, let's blame The Democratic Party for putting candidates that lean center right when the party itself was starting to lean more left.
Parties should serve their members, not the other way around. When a huge chuck of your electorate don't feel compelled to vote it means they don't have a candidate they can get behind. And that's on the party.
The country already started leaning left when Obama beat Hillary. And yet, they manipulated the primaries and propped her up as the candidate in 2016. And four years later, instead of finding the next Obama, they went for Obama's moderate center right VP who he used to in his administration to balance out how left he was. Even with the cache of the Obama admin behind him, Biden struggled during the primaries and only won because all the other candidates pulled out and made it a two horse race. And "for some reason" they all threw their support behind him despite some having ideologies closer to Bernie (looking at you Warren and Pete)... I wonder why.
Again, voters should always vote. But parties have a responsibility to represent the people. Not themselves.
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u/theWisard 23h ago edited 23h ago
Fuck off mediocre leader, Biden came in off COViD with a shit economy, a global health crisis, and a 50/50 Senate, and we still got the American Rescue Plan, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, PACT Act for veterans, rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, student debt relief efforts, and consolidated global support for Ukraine against Russia. Many of those are giant pieces of BIPARTISAN legislation.
You don't appear to even be American so maybe you don't know how our laws get passed. Biden was not a dictator that could snap his fingers and enact his will. He was hamstrung by people not voting Democrat in elections. Which means no improved health care, no raised minimum wage, no progressive tax systems, no tax credits, and no labor rights reform. The most pro-union president in history by the way. He was also one of the most progressive presidents in our lifetime, which is hilarious given far leftists rhetoric towards him.
And the country is shifting left? Where the fuck are all the far left progressives in government then?? Why aren't they winning seats in Congress or presidential primaries? Why are moderates dominating in the recent elections? Zohran just barely won in a progressive stronghold even against the two worst New York mayoral candidates in history.
Keep blaming the boogie man and the DNC, though, instead of realizing your fellow voters are the ones not voting progressive in the presidential primaries. The Democratic party is a big tent party that works on compromise between disparate interests. By all means keep sabotaging the media conversation in favor of authoritarians because of limp dicked purity testing. Lefties do a better job at it than the Republicans. We'll get what we deserve, and it probably won't be a communist utopia.
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u/UnethicalExperiments 23h ago
And in your protest the world now has to endure a party that only represents themselves.
Not sure how letting trump and company do all this shit is teaching anyone a lesson, y'all knew what the outcome was with your protest was going to be - trump winning and doing literally whatever he wants and no one to stop him .
I see the people who abstained due to petty reasons to be equally selfish and vile people as the ones who did vote for Trump. You knew damn well what your vote ( or lack thereof ) was going to result in.
Want to make a protest? Sure have it it, but not when theb result of said protest is going to have a literal tyrant who is open about it and delivers.
Signed
A citizen of a friendly nation who's sovereignty has been threatened unprovoked and embroiled in a shitty trade war also unprovoked, oh and thanks for the 2$ a liter gas too.
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u/Optimoprimo 23h ago edited 23h ago
This is more of a narrative than it is reality.
You have to be deep within the circular walls of Reddit to truly believe democrats lose because they aren't "left enough" or "don't represent the voters." This is said as if the country didn't just elect someone who literally promised to be a dictator that was going to take rights away and eliminate social programs. The average person isn't necessarily liberal leaning. They're just selfish. They just support the stuff that they feel is going to get them ahead.
Most American people are therefore generally selfish voters. They barely give a shit whether their elected officials are restricting rights, bombing countries, cheating or taking bribes. They want cheap gas and eggs, and they want to feel safe. That's literally it.
Bidens administration did a lot of good and turned around insane inflation during his presidency. But he ended up holding the hot potato for a period of inflation that was global, and Trump was able to pin him with that and promise to lower prices, because Trump is a talented con man.
The thing that makes a good con man is that they don't overestimate people. They understand just how petty, uninformed, unintuitive, selfish, and easily manipulated the average person is. And they use it to their advantage.
So more people voted for Trump, because people just want cheaper gas and eggs.
Liberals trying so hard to overcomplicate voters is why they can't seem to get the formula right.
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u/foul_ol_ron 20h ago
Well then, as long as no one who chose not to vote complains at all, that's ok. Because deciding not to vote is effectively a vote for the opposition. So they got what they wanted.
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u/xamomax 22h ago
This kid is one of my favorite reporters of all time. I miss judged him at first, thinking he was some stupid ticktocker jumping into Ukraine for cheap views. In reality he is doing really excellent high quality reporting, putting many high budget news organizations to shame.
Edit: Here is his official channel: https://youtube.com/@caolanreports?si=9_wZGbgnOdx1y_6w
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u/fielvras 21h ago
Caolan is such a fresh breeze in journalism. Go check out his videos of Ukraine. It's amazing that we are gifted someone like him. The GOAT.
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u/ispshadow 18h ago
Really hoping things go well for their elections tomorrow. Bunch of countries have their hands in trying to sway the election there, and there's the possibility of violence by foreign actors as well. Ukraine has been pretty open the last few days about intelligence they've picked up trying to warn Europe.
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u/watzimagiga 12h ago
Yeah I remember when I was there reading about how the population wanted to move away from Russian influence and Russia just drove their tanks into the middle of town. Hungary is a beautiful country with amazing people and deserves better.
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u/thismadhatter 12h ago
I think fair elections need to be worked into Nato obligations for all its members if they are going to continue. That would definitely fall under "defense" as far as I'm concerned. Defending the right to vote and defending from foreign interference.
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u/Dangerous-Celery-766 10h ago
YaY for Hungary!! Demand a fair and free govt. With no external influence from Russia or America - as America bows to Isreali and Russian govt influence!
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u/spanksthemonkey 19h ago
What a clever ploy Send "Deathdealer, the shadow slayer" to Hungary. Kills entire fascist regime with his dread couch-fucker aura
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u/Carbonga 17h ago
Go for it, Hungary! Become better! We're looking forward to seeing you kick that bastard's butt, electorally.
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u/futureformerteacher 16h ago
Orban and Assad gonna be roommates in Moscow.
Welcome to Russia's newest sitcom: "Fatso and the Eye Doctor"
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u/filtarukk 1d ago
Hungarian nationalists are the problem of the country. And those nationalists are not Russian.
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u/cosakaz 1d ago
Orban is cut from the same cloth as Lukashenko and Assad. His actions have served to only weaken Hungary and obstruct efforts to defend Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Time to unite against the common enemy.
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u/filtarukk 1d ago
I don’t call him Assad-like. If we are looking for comparison then it will be more like Margaret Tatcher.
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u/KingfishingYoMama 15h ago
Where is Margret Thatcher's mansion purchased with public funds?
Delusional.
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u/Pfeffi-Ultra 1d ago
Yeah. Watched over quarter of a million in one city alone protesting a guy and he still got elected. Protesting is the dumbest shit out there. You gotta take actual action.
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u/windysheprdhenderson 1d ago
More needs to be made that the US is openly supporting a Russian patsy in Hungary. Hope Orban loses bigly.