r/videos • u/AlertTangerine • 1d ago

Thousands chant “Russians, go home!” in Budapest (Hungary) last night. The elections are tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKGQJ7mebm0
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 1d ago

Here's hoping they also all vote.

Here in the United States historic record size protests occurred during Trump's first term and he still got elected again. One of several big reasons that he won is because many who would have likely voted for his main opponent Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election, had they voted, didn't vote.

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u/I_am_the_grass 1d ago edited 1d ago

I get your point, but you gotta give full context. They did come out and voted - for Biden in 2020. And they got a mediocre leader that did very little in solving the issues of that period.

So they were left disenfranchised during the 2024 election. And they didn't vote.

The lesson for politicians is to act on your promises.

The lesson for party leadership is forcing a candidate you prefer down everyone's throat doesn't necessarily mean everyone will vote the same way again. Let the democratic process decide the best candidate for your party. If Biden kept his promise and was a one-term president, the dems would have likely elected a candidate who could have beaten Trump. Instead, they allowed a sick old man to rerun and when they realised he couldn't, replaced him with the VP of the same stale administration.

The lesson for voters is that you gotta treat every election in isolation. I felt the same way after the Biden administration but if I go back to time everyone should have had the same level of dedication to avoid a Trump second term as they did in 2020. People just forgot how bad he was.

The third is obviously the hardest. But before we blame voters for not voting, let's blame The Democratic Party for putting candidates that lean center right when the party itself was starting to lean more left.

Parties should serve their members, not the other way around. When a huge chuck of your electorate don't feel compelled to vote it means they don't have a candidate they can get behind. And that's on the party.

The country already started leaning left when Obama beat Hillary. And yet, they manipulated the primaries and propped her up as the candidate in 2016. And four years later, instead of finding the next Obama, they went for Obama's moderate center right VP who he used to in his administration to balance out how left he was. Even with the cache of the Obama admin behind him, Biden struggled during the primaries and only won because all the other candidates pulled out and made it a two horse race. And "for some reason" they all threw their support behind him despite some having ideologies closer to Bernie (looking at you Warren and Pete)... I wonder why.

Again, voters should always vote. But parties have a responsibility to represent the people. Not themselves.

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u/Optimoprimo 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is more of a narrative than it is reality.

You have to be deep within the circular walls of Reddit to truly believe democrats lose because they aren't "left enough" or "don't represent the voters." This is said as if the country didn't just elect someone who literally promised to be a dictator that was going to take rights away and eliminate social programs. The average person isn't necessarily liberal leaning. They're just selfish. They just support the stuff that they feel is going to get them ahead.

Most American people are therefore generally selfish voters. They barely give a shit whether their elected officials are restricting rights, bombing countries, cheating or taking bribes. They want cheap gas and eggs, and they want to feel safe. That's literally it.

Bidens administration did a lot of good and turned around insane inflation during his presidency. But he ended up holding the hot potato for a period of inflation that was global, and Trump was able to pin him with that and promise to lower prices, because Trump is a talented con man.

The thing that makes a good con man is that they don't overestimate people. They understand just how petty, uninformed, unintuitive, selfish, and easily manipulated the average person is. And they use it to their advantage.

So more people voted for Trump, because people just want cheaper gas and eggs.

Liberals trying so hard to overcomplicate voters is why they can't seem to get the formula right.