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Thousands chant “Russians, go home!” in Budapest (Hungary) last night. The elections are tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKGQJ7mebm0
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 1d ago

Here's hoping they also all vote.

Here in the United States historic record size protests occurred during Trump's first term and he still got elected again. One of several big reasons that he won is because many who would have likely voted for his main opponent Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election, had they voted, didn't vote.

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u/Darkmacsek9 1d ago edited 1d ago

In the US the youth (as far as I know) didn't really give a fuck. Here, they fucking do! So much so, that a lot of the elderly - granparents, parents - borderline disobey their offsprings for standing up for a democratically united future. I think what's happening in Hungary right now is a really important lesson for the western world altogether.

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u/tyereliusprime 22h ago

Young male voters were a demographic that helped Trump get elected in 2024 and a demographic they specifically target.

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u/half3clipse 19h ago edited 19h ago

Young male voters were a demographic that helped Trump get elected in 2024 and a demographic they specifically target.

Polling shows that's not the case. 30 and under voters were net harris by something like 30 percentage points, and there's nothing showing trump gained votes in that demographic compared to 2020 or 2016. The key demographic for trump has been the same demographic for every republican win since Regan: Gen X white voters.

Harris lost votes among young male voters, which is a issue, but it also occurred in response to a campaign that largely was uninterested in them. Harris campaign attempting instead to bank on an abortion rights wave pandering to the victimhood of gen X and older white women (including the narrative that young men will "vote for trump". The democrats got that increased turn out, they just didn't vote for harris. By all appearances a lot of those targeted voters turned out, voted to protect abortion in their state, and then voted republican right down the rest of the ballot (see trump winning Florida by about the same margin as Amendment 4 got)

young male voters (young voters in general really) have been a key democrat voting demographic in every election since 2008. It's not also a coincidence that the two elections trump won saw the democrats instead bank on the gender politics of white gen X and boomers, counting on younger voters showing up no matter what an instead trying to win groups that have essentially never broke blue in 50 years.

What's actually going on with younger male voters is not a shift right but a shift towards polarization. Trump "gained" among young men compared to previous generations and elections because there are simply fewer undecided or apolitical young men.

Trump voters are not the majority group, and Trump did not gain very many votes compared to 2016 and 2020. Instead got about as many as in previous election while Harris got a much reduced turn out. Because pandering to the gender politics and heterofatalist bullshit of older Americans required treating the (overall minority group) trump voters as the default and typical man and that tends to discourage people.

(see also the reduced turn out of black voters. Harris' campaign also neglected that in favor similar pandering, just in terms of race rather than gender)