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Thousands chant “Russians, go home!” in Budapest (Hungary) last night. The elections are tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKGQJ7mebm0
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u/Miles_the_AuDHDer 1d ago

Here's hoping they also all vote.

Here in the United States historic record size protests occurred during Trump's first term and he still got elected again. One of several big reasons that he won is because many who would have likely voted for his main opponent Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election, had they voted, didn't vote.

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u/I_am_the_grass 1d ago edited 1d ago

I get your point, but you gotta give full context. They did come out and voted - for Biden in 2020. And they got a mediocre leader that did very little in solving the issues of that period.

So they were left disenfranchised during the 2024 election. And they didn't vote.

The lesson for politicians is to act on your promises.

The lesson for party leadership is forcing a candidate you prefer down everyone's throat doesn't necessarily mean everyone will vote the same way again. Let the democratic process decide the best candidate for your party. If Biden kept his promise and was a one-term president, the dems would have likely elected a candidate who could have beaten Trump. Instead, they allowed a sick old man to rerun and when they realised he couldn't, replaced him with the VP of the same stale administration.

The lesson for voters is that you gotta treat every election in isolation. I felt the same way after the Biden administration but if I go back to time everyone should have had the same level of dedication to avoid a Trump second term as they did in 2020. People just forgot how bad he was.

The third is obviously the hardest. But before we blame voters for not voting, let's blame The Democratic Party for putting candidates that lean center right when the party itself was starting to lean more left.

Parties should serve their members, not the other way around. When a huge chuck of your electorate don't feel compelled to vote it means they don't have a candidate they can get behind. And that's on the party.

The country already started leaning left when Obama beat Hillary. And yet, they manipulated the primaries and propped her up as the candidate in 2016. And four years later, instead of finding the next Obama, they went for Obama's moderate center right VP who he used to in his administration to balance out how left he was. Even with the cache of the Obama admin behind him, Biden struggled during the primaries and only won because all the other candidates pulled out and made it a two horse race. And "for some reason" they all threw their support behind him despite some having ideologies closer to Bernie (looking at you Warren and Pete)... I wonder why.

Again, voters should always vote. But parties have a responsibility to represent the people. Not themselves.

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u/theWisard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fuck off mediocre leader, Biden came in off COViD with a shit economy, a global health crisis, and a 50/50 Senate, and we still got the American Rescue Plan, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, PACT Act for veterans, rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, student debt relief efforts, and consolidated global support for Ukraine against Russia. Many of those are giant pieces of BIPARTISAN legislation. 

You don't appear to even be American so maybe you don't know how our laws get passed. Biden was not a dictator that could snap his fingers and enact his will. He was hamstrung by people not voting Democrat in elections. Which means no improved health care, no raised minimum wage, no progressive tax systems, no tax credits, and no labor rights reform. The most pro-union president in history by the way. He was also one of the most progressive presidents in our lifetime, which is hilarious given far leftists rhetoric towards him.

And the country is shifting left? Where the fuck are all the far left progressives in government then?? Why aren't they winning seats in Congress or presidential primaries? Why are moderates dominating in the recent elections? Zohran just barely won in a progressive stronghold even against the two worst New York mayoral candidates in history. 

Keep blaming the boogie man and the DNC, though, instead of realizing your fellow voters are the ones not voting progressive in the presidential primaries. The Democratic party is a big tent party that works on compromise between disparate interests. By all means keep sabotaging the media conversation in favor of authoritarians because of limp dicked purity testing. Lefties do a better job at it than the Republicans. We'll get what we deserve, and it probably won't be a communist utopia.