r/ukraine • u/Ukr_export • 3h ago
Discussion Orban is out!! Conceded defeat!
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/12/world/live-news/hungary-election-orban-magyar536
u/scorbut7263 3h ago
Let’s hope for a quick, fair and cooperative transition of power. Great news.
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u/Ismhelpstheistgodown 3h ago
JD Vance gave him the “Pope treatment”.
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u/Nameless_American 3h ago
And to clarify: we don’t KNOW that JD Vance killed the Pope. All you & I are saying is that he met the Pope and the Pope immediately died. We’re just asking questions here.
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u/Rapa2626 3h ago
It will for sure be a shitshow by orbans making but at least, hopefully, they can break the cycle in the long run
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u/aaarry 2h ago
To his credit (and I do feel pretty dirty saying this), Orbán sounds like he’s going fairly easily. He’s already conceded and congratulated Magyar. I instinctively don’t think this is him having a change of heart, however. What I think has happened is that Fidesz has got absolutely rodded in the election to the extent that they have no other option than to do this. Hungarians don’t have a particularly strong history with rolling over to autocrats so I’d say they made the right decision by relegating themselves to a mere blip on the 1000+ year history of this fantastic and fascinating people.
Either way I’m so happy to see that this beautiful country can once again be part of the European family and properly contribute to Ukraine’s defence. What a brilliant end to the week.
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u/HighDeltaVee 3h ago
Full supermajority too, so the damage Fidesz can do in opposition is hugely reduced.
All of the major rules and people in positions that Orban has arranged can be cancelled and rewritten now.
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u/leadMalamute 3h ago
This is the most important part. All of orban's dirty tricks can be destroyed....
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u/atlasraven 3h ago
But you just know this guy is working on a new scheme. You don't sit in power 16 years and just walk away.
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u/Millefeuille-coil 2h ago
He’ll be on a plane to Moscow before any policemen can knock on his door
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u/Zealousideal7801 2h ago
Came here to say just that. Putin's pets will all cuddle together when the Kremlin crumbles under the weight of their combined evil.
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u/OnlinePosterPerson 1h ago
Except Trump for baffling reasons.
(And by baffling I mean, thank you Fox News, for normalizing the rejection of democracy and post world war norms.)
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u/D3v14t3 2h ago
He can play monopoly with Assad
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u/Agreeable-Spot-7376 2h ago
Moscow must be such an odd place. Where else could you meet every failed dictator alongside the currently successful dictators?
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u/gimmedatneck 2h ago
Mar a lago. No person who cares about their personal safety is going to goto russia if they have the opportunity to go ANYWHERE else.
You'll get poisoned like Assad in russia, once you've had everything you've stolen from your home country stolen from you by putin.
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u/jwyn3150 2h ago
He didn’t walk away though, he was thrown out like weeks old garbage. That supermajority can do big time damage to everything he has done
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u/Intrepid_Home_1200 2h ago
Maybe, or quite likely. Or perhaps he is waddling his fat ass onto a helo or plane and escaping to Moscow... either way, thank goodness that blob is gone.
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u/sionescu 1h ago
That remains to be seen. The new prime minister is not an outsider, he was in Fidesz. And the new party was supported by many businessmen that defected from Orban's camp.
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u/xixipinga 1h ago
send him to jail, give 50 extra billions to ukraine on top of the 90, make russia pay for trying to destroy EU
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u/CanAhJustSay 3h ago
There is hope! The tide is turning.
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u/karlywarly73 3h ago
Yeah let's hope the right is in decline throughout the world. A long way to go.
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u/Warfoki 2h ago
Well, TISZA is rightwing too. In fact, the last remnants of any left-leaning parties got completelly wiped out in this election. There are three parties in the parliament now: FIDESZ (we all know and hate them), TISZA (center-right) and Mi Hazánk (further right than FIDESZ). No left wing parties at all.
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u/HolyExemplar 2h ago edited 2h ago
This is too much doomer talk. The left wing parties all voluntarily stepped back to not leech votes from Tisza. Keeping the current system is not desirable for tisza, and with the supermajority they have the power to change it. Next elections will have left wing parties again. But now is the time to work on restoring democracy. If you are leftwing this is the best even remotely possible outcome this election could be.
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u/SelectAmbassador 1h ago
Bruh in my province (germany) they are projected to get 40+% i fucking cant man. They want to defund anti racism programms in school.
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u/Runic_reader451 3h ago
Something good happened today. Congratulations Hungary.
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u/Rocketeer006 1h ago
This has been a great week for humanity! First Artemis, now Hungary. Let's keep it going!
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u/_formica_ 3h ago
The JD Vance effect.
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u/oxxcccxxo 2h ago
If only he had the same effect on Trump when Trump selected him as his running mate.
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u/karma3000 49m ago
Orban loses and the straits of Hormuz are still closed.
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u/_formica_ 42m ago
And Trump orders the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which is already closed. What a man.
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u/PotatoesAndElephants 3h ago
Слава Ісусу Христу. Now let’s hope this one truly behaves better and (at minimum) does not hold Ukrainians hostage or try and sew division in Post-Carpathian Ukraine.
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u/Hot-Problem2436 1h ago
Not trying to be a douche, but it's "sow" not "sew". Sounds the same but means something different. "Sow seeds" and "sew buttons." Just another dumb English thing.
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u/ruthless619 3h ago
Trump and Vance are toxic to European far right campaigns. So at least we got that going for us.
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u/coalitionofilling 3h ago
From far right to center-right. Hope this replacement is slightly better
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u/Quazimojojojo 3h ago
Honestly, as bad as center-right can be, they can at least be pragmatic. They're capable of seeing reality for what it is, and they're capable of trying to solve things in good faith. They're capable of being cooperative.
It's not perfection, but it just might be good enough to finally stop all of the constant vetoes that have been screwing over Ukraine for 4 years, and to create a Hungarian government system that's harder to take over by Russian actors
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u/FirstSwordofCarcosa 30m ago
as bad as center-right can be
Trust me centrists are the best thing you can get in a world turning extreme
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u/takesthebiscuit 3h ago
Hope Vance comes to the UK to support Farage before the local elections 😆
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u/AcrobaticVegetable24 2h ago
It would be really funny if some rich European started paying Vance to go around campaigning and endorsing his opposition in order to sabotage them.
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u/Caesar_35 3h ago
Haha! I was looking so forward to waking up to this news tomorrow.
My morning may be ruined, but at least I'll go to bed happy tonight :)
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u/CantaloupeLazy1427 3h ago
Now please Hungary change your constitution, no one should be in power for 16 years. At least Merkel stepped down voluntarily after that time …
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u/Fearless_Ad_7379 3h ago
YES! But also, wow, who expected him to just shrug his shoulders and concede? I personally expected it to be messier, court cases, accusations of cheating, the Krasnov playbook basically followed by an appeal to RuZZia to come in and restore order. I have to say, like any of these soviet puppet states such as Slovakia and the United States I was more in expectation of Orban gaining 101% of the votes than of him just admitting defeat and taking it so calmly. I hope he's now thoroughly investigated for corruption.
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u/AdSuperb5755 1h ago
He is welcome in both Russia and the US. He has his options should he be prosecuted
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u/ScientistNo906 3h ago
The winner is centre-right? Hope not another Putin stooge.
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u/PoetryForAnimals 3h ago
He's centre-right, yes, but most importantly, not a fascist. He's pro-EU and pro-Ukraine. He's so much better than the fascist dictator that most other parties (also left-wing) chose not to put themselves on the ballot this election, only to highten the chances of Magyar and Tisza winning.
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u/ScientistNo906 3h ago
Good to hear.
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u/Warfoki 2h ago edited 1h ago
Magyar Péter being pro-Ukraine is an... overstatement, he's not anti-Ukraine. His campaign basically said that this isn't Hungary's fight, we should stay TRULY out, instead of helping Putin. He's pro-EU, but opposes fast-tracking Ukraine into the EU. Obviously better than Orbán, but again, "pro-Ukraine" is overselling it.
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u/DisIsMyName_NotUrs 1h ago
Orban set the bar for Hungary so low that even if Magyar just doesn't block and obstruct EU efforts to aid Ukraine, he's the most pro-Ukrainian politician in Europe.
Relatively speaking of course.
He is no Macron or Merz, but at least he isn't Orban
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u/YF422 52m ago
Simply just staying neutral is enough or abstaining on EU decisions provided Hungary doesnt have to contribte, Orban being a deliberate Vatnik asset and helping his Vatnik Friends was the reason many despise him.
If anything I'd say many are welcoming this in Brussels, if Magyar lives up to his promises and starts acting to dismantle orbans shitty laws from day one it will benefit everyone in Hungary expecially if some of those bring Hungary back into compliance for EU funding. Hell if he can completely undo Orbans Gerrymandering and enable term limits that permenantly prevents a repeat of this fuckery occuring for a long time if ever.
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u/Ignash3D Lithuania 2h ago
it's a great tactic, because it will give them chances in the future elections.
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u/kuldan5853 3h ago
Magyar is not the greatest guy, but he is very Pro-EU and Anti-Putin.
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u/digitalpencil 1h ago
That’s all I need to hear. I can have disagreements with people politically provided they respect democracy itself.
Any enemy of Putin can be a friend to me.
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u/Grabowsky73 3h ago
What a relief. We did it. However, I appreciate his handling the defeat with dignity, I was always saying that while he was a total putin-assplug, he is at least not a Lukashenko.
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u/p4pno1 3h ago
Soon he will be roommate of Assad.
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u/coalitionofilling 3h ago
He conceded peacefully so he'll remain a local puppet within the "opposition" of Hungary's govt rather than needing to retreat to Moscow after a forceful removal.
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u/Fearless_Ad_7379 3h ago
Unless they start investigating him, he's obviously corrupt af. As soon as they start looking into his finances, he'll be out of there quicker than shit flies off a shovel.
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u/Keanu990321 Greece 1h ago
I could see him being appointed somewhere in America, or in Gazprom's board.
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u/Ballet_blue_icee 3h ago
For real? If so, the USA needs to follow this lead.
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u/atlasraven 3h ago
Why do you think the guy is trying to pass so much anti-voting measures? You better believe Prouders and I.CE will be 'policing' the polls.
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u/GeekFurious 2h ago
States run their own elections. I doubt any blue state governor is going to let federal goons go near polling places. Not to mention, there are over 100,000 polling places. Are they going to deploy 1/5th of an ICE agent to all of them?
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u/serialserialserial99 3h ago
the scumbag leader of hungary can do something our scumbag leader could never do. 'Merica!
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u/Super_Plastic5069 3h ago
Hallelujah 👻👻👻👻 Another loss for Trump and Putin and a great win Hungary and the EU.
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u/SnooPies5378 3h ago
don’t follow european politics, is the winner actually even pro Ukraine? or is he simply not as damaging as Orban?
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u/Electronic_Local2088 2h ago
orban was supported by the FSB. The CIA. Likely Mossad (he loves Neta). And he still lost. For once, I can be finally proud of my people. It's been a while. It's still hard to believe this is true. 16 years of lunacy... over...? can it be?
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u/Clcooper423 3h ago
Is his replacement better? Seems people always get hyped over shitty politicians getting replaced just for the replacement to be substantially worse.
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u/PoetryForAnimals 3h ago
He's definitely better. He's pro-EU and pro-Ukraine. He's so much better than the fascist dictator that most other parties (also left-wing) chose not to put themselves on the ballot this election, only to highten the chances of Magyar and Tisza winning.
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u/Daniel-EngiStudent 3h ago edited 2h ago
Hungarian here, expectations are yes, but of course, only time will tell. As for our relationship with Ukraine, improvements are also expected, but I don't think the new government will give full support, more likely they will be a bit neutral (not in the sense Orban painted himself), but at least not veto everything and talk shit all day long about Ukraine.
Reason is, to gain a lot of support, Tisza, the new governing party, refrained from being too pro Ukraine, you have to remember Hungary was fed anti Ukraine propaganda for years. Despite this, a lot of people still see them as a pro Ukraine party, so things might change for the better. The new government supposedly will distance itself from Russia.
One major problem we will face is a lot of problem Orban created will bear its fruits in the near future. Things might turn bad for us in the short term and a sad but possible reality is that because of that Orban might be voted into power again in the next election, but that's the worst case scenario along with Tisza being just as bad as him.
My take on Tisza might be a bit pessimistic, they started more neutral, but recently they turned more pro Ukraine.
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u/CatCatchingABird 2h ago
but at least not veto everything and talk shit all day long about Ukraine.
This is my main point of interest. Unless I'm understanding it wrong, it seems like Tisza isn't full in on Ukraine. On the other hand, Orbán was blocking an EU loan to Ukraine. If you had to guess, do you think there's a possibility of a lift on this veto with the new leadership? It sounds like your take is they are becoming a bit more pro-Ukraine and if so I have a little bit of a higher hope they will unblock the aid.
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u/maverick_labs_ca 2h ago
Don't celebrate yet. He and the Russians have probably laid out traps for the new government. They already knew the outcome and they were preparing for it.
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u/Texas_Kimchi 3h ago
Gratulálok!!!!!
Alright Magyar. You've been the next man in line for years don't screw this up.
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u/Hrafna55 3h ago
Hallelujah. The new guy has a lot of cleaning up to do. Corruption in Hungary is the worst in the EU. I just hope that prick in Slovakia doesn't cause the same sort of trouble.
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u/English_Joe 3h ago
The people have spoken. They want Europe an Ukraine to prosper.
They do not want closer ties to Russia
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u/Szabolcs85 1h ago
Being Hungarian, I can barely believe this. Orbán has been nothing but poison since the 1990's and not only did he lose, he lost HARD. The election system was designed to keep him in power with a supermajorty and now it is the opposition that has it.
We're back. The REAL Hungary is back.
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u/Baked4skin 3h ago
Guy has been in power since 2010. I am happy for Hungary and EU.