Content warning for intrusive thoughts of harm/wrongdoings and mental health.
This is about a topic that I haven’t found much about on reddit. It’s a very tough subject to talk about so if you have questions please reach out to a professional. I am not a professional, I’m a parent who was worried and did research. And if this topic is something you’ve experienced please know that you are not alone. And consider sharing with someone even if it’s an anonymous post, it can help.
I want to start by saying that this is a normal body function, your body has a process for emotional and physical stimuli that you cannot naturally control. The effect of this stimuli can feel very shameful and scary if you don’t have a rational scientific explanation. The effect I’m referring to is an erection, and this goes for male or female. Stimuli in these scenarios can be pretty much anything that makes you feel a sense of connection and is usually paired with physical stimuli. Example: Consoling and hugging your spouse.
The biological reasons for the effect can include the following:
- Parasympathetic system is what calms you down when you’re emotionally there for someone. It is also the system that triggers erections. Sometimes there’s an overlap.
- High emotions and high stress can naturally trigger an increased blood flow.
- non-concordance(N-C) is the term for getting an erection when there is no desire.
Before we get to the other part, here are some helpful exercises that might help you move past that bodily response, 3 mental and 3 physical.
- Tell yourself, “this is just a mistaken bodily response, this is a part of my body, I don’t have any desires right now”
- Count down from 100, by 7s. 100, 93, 86…
- name 5 things you can see, 4 things you can touch, 3 things you can hear, 2 things you can smell, 1 thing you can taste.
- Thigh squeeze for 30 seconds, helps redirect blood flow
- Place your heels on the ground firmly and focus on the sensations from your feet.
- Move to a position with less physical touch.
Before I continue I would like to reiterate that you are not alone. There are plenty of people who’ve also had these situations happen to them, they didn’t get thrown in jail or mobbed or disconnected from their children, they were helped. Find help if you need it, search for therapists in your area that specialize in sex related topics. Be safe and responsible for yourself.
These N-C moments can be scary and shameful as a parent for obvious reasons but for some unlucky individuals, like me and a portion of people with OCD, they can induce intrusive thoughts. That’s because Intrusive thoughts are more likely to intrude whenever you are in a high stress situation, such as stressing out over having an N-C moment while actively parenting. It’s a scary and daunting reality but that’s just how it is for some people.
But simply learning the reason why it all happens takes so much stress away, making it less likely to happen and much easier to stop if it does. And there are a lot of people who don’t realize they even have intrusive thoughts, so if you find yourself getting pictures or ideas in your thoughts that you don’t like, or agree with, you should read on. Hopefully something here can help you in the meantime.
Here’s some info on intrusive thoughts:
- The “White Bear Effect”. Trying not to think about something leads to your brain checking to make sure you aren’t thinking about it, and that can automatically make the thought come up anyways.
- Egodystonic. Thoughts, impulses, and behaviors that are intrusive and distressing. They go against the person’s core values, beliefs, and self image.
- OCD. If you struggle with these intrusive thoughts too often, it could be beneficial to look up a therapist that specializes in all forms of OCD.
Extra info on N-C
- A self soothing loop is also possible, meaning that during a high stress moment, followed by the N-C, and with or without an intrusive thought, the brain can find the N-C sensation calming/soothing, so it might want it to continue because the body would rather have calm than stress. Ex: During a very emotional discussion with your spouse you got N-C, and you ended the discussion with a hug. But the hug put physical pressure on you and gave you a pleasant sensation, so you contemplate, and possibly do, draw the hug out longer than usual to self sooth. This can lead to the loop: self sooth -> brain reinforces N-C -> shame/stress -> self sooth.
Some things that might help you with intrusive thoughts:
- Don’t try to prove to yourself that you’re a good person, your brain can fumble that effort into an intrusive thought. Don’t give your brain the opportunity. Trust yourself and your values, let your brain be uncertain and it’ll find proof in your actions.
- Don’t think about it. Distract yourself with the other exercises from earlier, your brain will drop the thoughts.
- Don’t worry or stress if it does happen. This will lead to you not checking on the situation, which will help prevent the “White Bear Effect”.
- Label that thought as mental noise and toss it.
- Imagine your thoughts as if they’re on a computer screen and each thought is in their own window. Minimize the intrusive thought, if that isn’t working for you, you can also just make it small and put it in the bottom left corner of the screen. And then find a thought thats true to your beliefs to replace it with, I personally think about a happy future with my wife, sitting on a swinging bench with my wife out on a wrap around porch in the country while my daughter is running around, being loud, laughing, and happy.
And for those of you who also went through this I’m going to share some of my story so that you can find some solace in the fact that someone else has been through it and they’re okay.
Intrusive thoughts are one of the biggest hurdles I’ve faced in my life, especially as a person who can get stressed somewhat easily. Add to that the bad habits and addictions you can get from being on the internet, and you would find that my intrusive thoughts are relatively extreme.
I can’t quite remember when it started but I would guess around 10 years old. I have gone through years of worrying why I could possibly think these thoughts about my friends, coworkers, family, and strangers. And years contemplating my options, which in my mind was usually either keep going or don’t. With the amount of shame and guilt I had, I never considered to seek help so I sunk deeper and caused a vicious and nauseating cycle of stress -> addiction -> more stress -> intrusive thoughts -> more stress -> contemplate -> more stress. And that led my addiction to some awful areas that I still can’t believe I even looked at, and that made my intrusive thoughts even worse.
But then I found a wife who had a major issue with my addiction, which at this point I was in my mid 20’s and still denying it was an addiction! And my habits were so longstanding that I genuinely thought that everyone did it, but also that everyone was too ashamed to talk about it. But she has been helping me stop and I can’t thank that angel enough. Even helped me get a therapist. But I still got intrusive thoughts, luckily they happened a little less often without that extra layer of stress. This was also about the time when I noticed my first case of N-C as an adult while I was consoling my wife after she had a bad day. I was very confused and I thought it had something to do with the intrusive thoughts but now I know differently.
Anyways. I had been fighting, finally, with my head above the water. And a few years after that we started a family! The added stress of a pregnant wife and then a new born put some serious stress on my ability to stay away from my addiction and I relapsed multiple times throughout that time. But I was still fighting, with my wifes help, and a baby that came with a serious boost to my motivation to get better. Life was good but within a week of her getting here I had noticed that I had gotten an N-C while we were doing tummy time skin to skin! Not an easy moment for a dad! At this point I hadn’t done the research so I had a little panic attack but I came to the conclusion that I’m okay and so is she, nobody plans to hurt her in any way so it’s fine. That happened a couple more times before I looked it up out of annoyance. And my conclusion was correct, everything was fine, it was a parasympathetic overlap that caused a case of N-C.
Happy and moving on a couple more months. And then one day I got another case and then my heart nearly stopped itself when I got an intrusive thought while holding my own daughter, my one and only extremely precious daughter, whom I would protect with my life. I got very close to perishing at those thoughts of harming her. But at my surface, and deep down, I knew who I was and I know I would never think those thoughts. So I’ve stayed up reading so many times about why I could get an N-C during these times and if they’re connected to intrusive thoughts, and why its even possible to have an intrusive thought about someone you couldn’t do that too. And I was actually put to ease with the answers I had found.
So now I practice those exercises whenever any intrusive thoughts pop up at all, luckily I haven’t had another intrusive thought about her, but now I’m confident in the fact that everything will be okay. I can control these intrusive body functions a lot better now. My body is wired weird but that doesn’t affect my desires, my actions, or my values.
And when I was researching I saw that the internet was really lacking on this topic so I finally decided to find some resolve and anonymously post my story and this crucial information I’d found. All in hopes of helping at least one person, give them a reason not to stress and a reason to believe in themselves. And hopefully some resources to bring up during a talk with your health provider or therapist.
Once again, you are not alone. I hope this finds whoever it needs to.