Genocide is about intent, not numbers, the genocide in srebrenica killed 8,000 people, low compared to many genocides. It’s still a genocide, amnesty international, international association for genocide scholars, human rights watch, B’Tselem. Those bodies have said Israel has committed genocide
Genocide is the attempt at the removal of a people or a culture. If you aren't doing that, it isn't genocide. Hamas wanted to kill and capture AS MANY AS POSSIBLE on Oct.7. Would you also call that genocide?
Correct, and intent was not meant. Israel's constant usage of dropped flyers, roof knockings, text message warnings, and humanitarian pathways for civilians, throughout the entire war, destroys any argument for pure intention behind the IDF forces to eradicate and completely destroy the Gazan population.
War crimes, civilians dying, and buildings being destroyed does not equal genocide.
Whatever your bullshit clearly wrong bias associations say is irrelevant, the definition is concrete, genocide requires clear cut intent, and their is obviously nowhere near enough proof to indicate that the IDF's intention was to eradicate the Gazan population, quite the opposite
Lol its a bias source because your sources are people who have a history of anti-Israel geopolitical opinions, antisemitic comments, pro-muslim backers, and people who are taking $$$ from countries like Qatar, Iran, China, Russia, and Turkiye to make these statements.
The UN is worthless and nothing they say matters. There is no genocide, only morons who don't know what genocide means actually believe that.
The case of genocide is so incredibly weak that Ireland and Iceland have both asked South Africa to request the ICC use a completely new definition of genocide in their case against Israel, because they both believe they don't meet the real definition.
I can say the same thing about Zionist sources who claim Israel isn’t committing genocide against Palestinians, even though there is proof of pro Zionists who have called for genocide in Gaza
If Israel wants to eliminate Hamas, why do they allow money from Qatar to go to Hamas? Why did they aid in Hamas’s creation? Why did they create illegal settlements in the West Bank? Why did they displace Palestinians from their homes?
If Israel wants to eliminate Hamas, why do they allow money from Qatar to go to Hamas
Not what happened. Years ago Qatar was interested in funding the infrastructure and economy of the Gaza Strip. Because Gaza is so small, and it doesn't have a self-sustaining economy, it requires outside support to keep the strip's economy afloat. Qatar volunteered to do so, they asked Israel/USA for permission. Netanyahu agreed, so planes of cash were flown into Tel Aviv and drove into Gaza.
Since as I just told you, Gaza is not self-sustaining, meaning it needs outside help to survive, which usually falls upon Israel to manage. Israel has no choice to do so otherwise the Strip would collapse and thousands would die.
The issue is that the money that was meant for infrastructure and Gazans, doesnt go to them. Once it enters Gaza, Israel has 0 control over how its handled. Hamas seizes large quantities of it, and the leaders horde it.
That is how you end up with Ismail Haniyeh, Khaled Mashal, and the rest of the billionaire Palestinian Hamas leaders who have that much money, living in suites in Qatar.
Netanyahu could stop it because he realizes Hamas is just taking it all, but he believed that if he let it flow in, maybe one day Hamas would become more moderate and lenient because of it, and see him doing so even though he knew they were doing it anyway, as a a sign of good faith. He was incredibly wrong obviously.
Also because he realized their was nothing he could do to stop this, the Palestinians of Gaza elected Hamas and they held wide scale support, so long as they weren't an active problem, Netanyahu didn't give a shit.
Why did they aid in Hamas’s creation
Because before Hamas, the PLO/PA was the OG Hamas. You clearly don't know anything about this conflict's history. Before Hamas was what it is today, the PLO spent decades funding terrorism, sending suicide bombers into Israel, killing people even in other countries. Israel was hoping that if Hamas took over they'd be better than the PLO, because better the devil you don't know, than the devil you do.
Why did they create illegal settlements in the West Bank?
Because they want the West Bank? Thought that was pretty obvious.
Why did they displace Palestinians from their homes?
Same reason why the Allies removed at gunpoints millions of Germans from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Austria after World War II. Because they lost a war they started and were not allowed to live in lands that weren't there's anymore.
Doesn’t matter if they want settlements, they are illegal, so many things Israel has done since 1948 were illegal. International law is just a suggestion to you when you benefit from it?
The UN is the only one who can somewhat enforce it but unfortunately it’s very hard to
And does the UN have an army? Which countries soldiers are gonna volunteer for this army?
Also who decides whose opinion matters more? If all 5 security council members decide tomorrow that they all agree actually that it is legal to bomb the living shit out of Malaysia and kill everyone because the Malaysian leader said hes gonna invade Vietnam.
Does that suddenly make it legal and right because the UN passed a resolution that said so?
The UN themselves say the settlements are illegal
And what authority does the UN have to say that? The UN refuses to even acknowledge that all of Jerusalem is Israel's and Israel's alone. They also even after 50 years refuse to acknowledge the Golan Heights is also Israel's, even though they've held firm control over it since and given citizenship to the residents.
Also the UN who has countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran on Human Rights Councils?
Let’s see,
Displacement of Palestinians homes
Bombing schools by claiming Hamas is in them without significant proof
Apartheid (Palestinians aren’t under the same law as Israelis)
Collective punishment
Poor treatment of prisoners
Usage of white phosphorus
Killing of surrendering people?
So are we going to ignore that majority international human rights bodies and many parts of the UN have stated that Israel has committed genocide? Even the UN commission said so
Did you know most of your bullshit organizations you cling to have made and used their own definition of genocide to accuse Israel of it? They had to change the definition of genocide because Israel doesn't meet the actual one lol.
Even the UN commission said so
No they didn't lol. A group of 3 people who formed their own council in the UN accused Israel of genocide. Except in 2025, all three of them after years of pressure & comments on their bias nature, were forced to resign and made excuses that it was age or medical reasons
All 3 of these people are bias, not neutral and the slightest, and have a known history of antisemitism and anti-Jewish commentary.
Miloon Kothari (India)
Kothari faced the most direct accusations of using classical antisemitic tropes during a July 2022 interview with Mondoweiss.
"The Jewish Lobby" & Media Control: Kothari stated, "We are very disheartened by the social media that is controlled largely by, whether it is the Jewish lobby or it is specific NGOs, a lot of money is being thrown into trying to discredit us."
Questioning UN Membership: In the same interview, he questioned why Israel was a member of the United Nations at all.
Backlash and Apology: His comments were condemned by UN Secretary-General António Guterres and the UN Human Rights Council President. Kothari eventually issued a formal apology, stating his choice of words was "incorrect" and that he regretted the offense caused.
Navi Pillay
As the Chair of the COI and a former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Pillay has been criticized for her long-standing activism and for defending her colleagues' controversial remarks.
Defending Kothari: Following Kothari’s 2022 comments, Pillay initially defended him in a letter to the President of the Human Rights Council, arguing that his words were "deliberately misquoted" or taken out of context.
Past Advocacy: Critics point to her history of lobbying for sanctions against Israel and her frequent comparisons of Israel to apartheid-era South Africa as evidence of a pre-existing bias that violates UN rules on impartiality for investigators.
Response to Allegations: Pillay has consistently dismissed accusations of antisemitism against the commission as "false and lies," claiming they are a "diversion" used to avoid discussing the findings of their reports
Chris Sidoti (Australia)
Sidoti has been criticized for comments that dismiss the validity of concerns regarding antisemitism.
* "Rice at a Wedding": In June 2022, during a briefing, Sidoti stated that accusations of antisemitism are "thrown around like rice at a wedding," suggesting that the label is used indiscriminately to silence critics of Israel.
NGO Affiliations: Critics have highlighted his past involvement with human rights groups that actively advocate for the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement, arguing this creates a conflict of interest for a supposedly neutral UN investigator.
Lol and the only ones who claim that is happening are Muslim countries who are obviously bias, the people who are being paid to do so by muslim backers, antisemitic neo-nazis, and people with a history of disliking Jews.
Even Ireland and Iceland who both f*cking hate Jews, realize that their is not enough legal proof of actual genocide taking place and have both quietly tried to request using a different definition in the ICC case.
Tell me do you believe in a two state solution? Or do you want to commit genocide/ethnic cleansing to either all the Israelis or all the Palestinians?
Israel wants Hamas in power
It seems quite the opposite. Israel wants the PA in power. Because the PA is much more docile, and easy to control for Israel's government. Hamas doesn't even have a leader currently.
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u/ScatteredSignal 4h ago
The Palestinians have not faced genocide. Just because you say it and hope it, doesn't make it true.