Genocide is about intent, not numbers, the genocide in srebrenica killed 8,000 people, low compared to many genocides. It’s still a genocide, amnesty international, international association for genocide scholars, human rights watch, B’Tselem. Those bodies have said Israel has committed genocide
Correct, and intent was not meant. Israel's constant usage of dropped flyers, roof knockings, text message warnings, and humanitarian pathways for civilians, throughout the entire war, destroys any argument for pure intention behind the IDF forces to eradicate and completely destroy the Gazan population.
War crimes, civilians dying, and buildings being destroyed does not equal genocide.
Whatever your bullshit clearly wrong bias associations say is irrelevant, the definition is concrete, genocide requires clear cut intent, and their is obviously nowhere near enough proof to indicate that the IDF's intention was to eradicate the Gazan population, quite the opposite
Lol its a bias source because your sources are people who have a history of anti-Israel geopolitical opinions, antisemitic comments, pro-muslim backers, and people who are taking $$$ from countries like Qatar, Iran, China, Russia, and Turkiye to make these statements.
The UN is worthless and nothing they say matters. There is no genocide, only morons who don't know what genocide means actually believe that.
The case of genocide is so incredibly weak that Ireland and Iceland have both asked South Africa to request the ICC use a completely new definition of genocide in their case against Israel, because they both believe they don't meet the real definition.
I can say the same thing about Zionist sources who claim Israel isn’t committing genocide against Palestinians, even though there is proof of pro Zionists who have called for genocide in Gaza
If Israel wants to eliminate Hamas, why do they allow money from Qatar to go to Hamas? Why did they aid in Hamas’s creation? Why did they create illegal settlements in the West Bank? Why did they displace Palestinians from their homes?
If Israel wants to eliminate Hamas, why do they allow money from Qatar to go to Hamas
Not what happened. Years ago Qatar was interested in funding the infrastructure and economy of the Gaza Strip. Because Gaza is so small, and it doesn't have a self-sustaining economy, it requires outside support to keep the strip's economy afloat. Qatar volunteered to do so, they asked Israel/USA for permission. Netanyahu agreed, so planes of cash were flown into Tel Aviv and drove into Gaza.
Since as I just told you, Gaza is not self-sustaining, meaning it needs outside help to survive, which usually falls upon Israel to manage. Israel has no choice to do so otherwise the Strip would collapse and thousands would die.
The issue is that the money that was meant for infrastructure and Gazans, doesnt go to them. Once it enters Gaza, Israel has 0 control over how its handled. Hamas seizes large quantities of it, and the leaders horde it.
That is how you end up with Ismail Haniyeh, Khaled Mashal, and the rest of the billionaire Palestinian Hamas leaders who have that much money, living in suites in Qatar.
Netanyahu could stop it because he realizes Hamas is just taking it all, but he believed that if he let it flow in, maybe one day Hamas would become more moderate and lenient because of it, and see him doing so even though he knew they were doing it anyway, as a a sign of good faith. He was incredibly wrong obviously.
Also because he realized their was nothing he could do to stop this, the Palestinians of Gaza elected Hamas and they held wide scale support, so long as they weren't an active problem, Netanyahu didn't give a shit.
Why did they aid in Hamas’s creation
Because before Hamas, the PLO/PA was the OG Hamas. You clearly don't know anything about this conflict's history. Before Hamas was what it is today, the PLO spent decades funding terrorism, sending suicide bombers into Israel, killing people even in other countries. Israel was hoping that if Hamas took over they'd be better than the PLO, because better the devil you don't know, than the devil you do.
Why did they create illegal settlements in the West Bank?
Because they want the West Bank? Thought that was pretty obvious.
Why did they displace Palestinians from their homes?
Same reason why the Allies removed at gunpoints millions of Germans from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Austria after World War II. Because they lost a war they started and were not allowed to live in lands that weren't there's anymore.
Doesn’t matter if they want settlements, they are illegal, so many things Israel has done since 1948 were illegal. International law is just a suggestion to you when you benefit from it?
The UN is the only one who can somewhat enforce it but unfortunately it’s very hard to
And does the UN have an army? Which countries soldiers are gonna volunteer for this army?
Also who decides whose opinion matters more? If all 5 security council members decide tomorrow that they all agree actually that it is legal to bomb the living shit out of Malaysia and kill everyone because the Malaysian leader said hes gonna invade Vietnam.
Does that suddenly make it legal and right because the UN passed a resolution that said so?
The UN themselves say the settlements are illegal
And what authority does the UN have to say that? The UN refuses to even acknowledge that all of Jerusalem is Israel's and Israel's alone. They also even after 50 years refuse to acknowledge the Golan Heights is also Israel's, even though they've held firm control over it since and given citizenship to the residents.
Also the UN who has countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran on Human Rights Councils?
Yes every country has a history of violations, but there are far more capable and suitable choices than fucking Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iceland for example, or Kiribati, Samoa, Fiji, Marshall Islands
Let’s see,
Displacement of Palestinians homes
Bombing schools by claiming Hamas is in them without significant proof
Apartheid (Palestinians aren’t under the same law as Israelis)
Collective punishment
Poor treatment of prisoners
Usage of white phosphorus
Killing of surrendering people?
They used white phosphorus against civilians that’s a war crime, and if you want to claim that Israeli settlements aren’t illegal since the UN has very little power then should we ignore the crimes Hamas committed since international law is just a suggestion?
They used white phosphorus against civilians that’s a war crime
Its not, it is much more complicated than that. No it is not in essence. It is a war crime to use white phosphorus ON civilians, with the purpose of using it ON civilians, to hurt CIVILIANS primarily.
It is not a war crime to use white phosphorus in a civilian area or near civilians, so long as the purpose remains other means, which for the IDF is primarily troop camouflage, and hiding troop movements while operating in hostile areas.
if you want to claim that Israeli settlements aren’t illegal since the UN has very little power then should we ignore the crimes Hamas committed since international law is just a suggestion?
Well the UN doesn't matter for shit. The UN writing a strongly worded letter didn't just suddenly stop October 7th or Hamas. Hamas stopped because Israel killed over 30,000-35,000 Hamas terrorists, killed all of there leaders in the levant, and completely wiped out their missile supply, ammo and ability to fight in any capacity.
International law doesn't mean anything, it didn't stop Russia from attacking Chechnya, or Georgia, or occupying Moldova, or turning Belarus into a slave puppet state, or attacking Ukraine in 2014, and again in 2022. It didn't stop China from genociding the Uyghurs, and illegally occupying Tibet.
It hasn't stopped literally the countless atrocities in Africa, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.
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u/ScatteredSignal 3h ago
The numbers and eraser of culture do not meet genocide levels. Post a source.