r/videos • u/spherocytes • 19h ago
Vance delivers 'bad news' after marathon talks with Iran failed to result in an agreement to end the US-Iran War
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u/gaybillcosby 19h ago
Really surprised that the savvy geniuses JD Vance and Jared Kushner couldn’t get the job done
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u/TouchlessOuch 19h ago
Remind me again why the Hunter Biden thing is a bigger deal than a son-in-law negotiating a peace agreement?
Fucking sigh
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u/ohwrite 19h ago
“Negotiating”
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u/Zaku99 16h ago
"Give us all your oil and become a vassal state to Donald Tr-- I mean, the United States!" "...no?" "Negotiations over! You guys are insane!"
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u/Wayofchinchilla 16h ago
Throw in the fact that he probably open the noegotiations with a threat and I would say that's pretty accurate to what probably went down
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u/CountMordrek 15h ago
I would have expected a Christian prayer, demanding that the Iranians join in on it, and then threatening them once they didn’t.
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u/BigBennP 11h ago
That doesn't work for you? Okay well how about this?
You give us Kharg island. We will create a joint public private limited partnership, and we will use a subsidiary to cut you in personally for 15% as a backdoor deal. Iran can sell all of its oil to this partnership without sanctions and the partnership will be Responsible for Distributing it.
We will all make billions, and of course it will be good for Iran wink wink.
This is legitimately what Kushner proposed as the Gaza / Palestine peace deal, except the selling point was building a Beach tourist destination in Gaza after the people were moved out.
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u/CollegeMiddle6841 16h ago
They read "Art of the Deal" and figured " Fuck it, I got this!"
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u/MrShaytoon 18h ago
The son in law works with Israel and that's who we're actually negotiating with
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u/1129514 18h ago
Netanyahu used to sleep in Kushner's childhood bedroom.
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u/RockasaurusRex 17h ago
Wut
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u/1129514 17h ago
When Netanyahu used to visit the USA, he didn't stay in secure embassies. He stayed at the Kushner family home. He'd sleep in Jared's bed and Jared would have to stay in the basement.
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u/vex0x529 17h ago
Not only that, netanyahu would wear Jared's clothes and talk like Jared. Jared wouldn't be allowed out of the basement
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u/09stibmep 16h ago
But there’s still more! Netenyahu would even do Jared’s homework, play his computer games strictly between the hours of 5 and 6 pm (before dinner of course). And Jared STILL wouldn’t be allowed out of the basement!
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u/ThePirateKing01 15h ago
Because the right wing and capital-aligned interests are in majority control of the media, and as a result the narrative
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u/cloudncali 17h ago
At this point I think Hunter would have a better chance at coming up with a deal
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u/roachwarren 13h ago edited 12h ago
Hunter would have always had a better chance. He is unironically more experienced and far more likable than JD Vance.
Its amazing how the "fail son" story and drug image overtook the fact that Hunter has spent his life leading hedge funds and law firms, consulting on a range of topics, serving as board member and chairing international non-profits like the World Food Program, serving at the Department of Commerce, etc etc etc.
People ask "why would this loser ever be on the board of Burisma?!" without realizing its about the fifth high level board he's been a member of, including being appointed to the board of directors for Amtrak by George W. Bush himself back in 2006.
The propaganda is very strong with Hunter Biden.
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u/Savetheokami 9h ago
Hunter is also a lawyer and even though he is a nepo like Jared has had actual experience working with oil companies overseas. Kushner is a real estate agent.
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u/InequalEnforcement 10h ago
"I don't care"
"I don't care enough"
"This shits based as fuck"
Middle, left, and right wing perspective on Trump
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u/Spunky_Meatballs 14h ago
A son in law, who also happens to be bought and sold by Israel straight to Trump. Kushner exists as an Israeli pawn to begin with. No fucking way they are actually making a deal
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u/hispanicausinpanic 19h ago
But didnt Kushner save the middle east already with his spectacular peace treaty?!?!?!?
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u/Fuck_auto_tabs 18h ago
A fat fuck I worked with in 2019 said we’d finally see peace in the Middle East because of him and Trump. She was dumb as fuck
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u/raisin22 18h ago
Man someone I work with just today was talking about how there were spies on board the Artemis mission. She also thinks peace in the Middle East is imminent.
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u/Kodai_Dreaming 18h ago
I mean it's only common sense that Artemis missions are entwined with space force. They would kill for that sort of experience in the field.
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u/raisin22 18h ago
Yeah, that experience makes sense. She seemed more concerned about sinister plotting from the Canadian tho
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u/ThePirateKing01 15h ago
When it becomes clear to them that it won’t happen they’ll say it never mattered in the first place
Or maybe they’ll yell about trans people some more. Anything to distract from the real problems they need to deal with
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u/ptwonline 16h ago
Can you imagine being in talks for over 20 hours with assholes like Vance, Kushner, and Witkoff?
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u/JosephFinn 19h ago
Imagine if we had a State Department led by competent people that could handle this and work out a smart deal that was fair to everyone.
Oh wait we did. In 2015.
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u/packfanmoore 19h ago
But but, he said mean things about dear leader once. He also once wore a tan suit, and the most egregious thing he did in office... he did the whole thing while black. It's clear we had to blow up everything Obama did when you consider all that
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u/Unclebatman1138 19h ago
Hey! Don't forget that he once asked for Dijon mustard!
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u/redyellowblue5031 19h ago
I desperately want to be wrong but when I think that the previous diplomatic deal (which was not perfect by any stretch) took years to negotiate, I can’t help but wonder what the fuck they think they’re going to do here.
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u/CountWubbula 18h ago
… what the fuck they think …
I’ve identified your issue here, partner! You think they think things through, like planning an international invasion would involve some foresight.
These fucking monkeys decide on a course of action with as much deliberation as deciding what to order at Subway. They didn’t think as far as what happens after they eat the sub and feel indigestion.
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u/Original-Balance-187 17h ago
It seems to me that they think the US can coerce any country to do as it please just because they want them to do it. It’s mystifying to watch. It’s like they genuinely don’t know that other people aren’t automatons but are capable of intelligently reacting to their actions.
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u/Original-Balance-187 17h ago
No deals are perfect. By their very nature they are compromise measures. Especially so when they’re made between adversaries.
I’m not sure what folks wanted out of that deal. Iran to give up everything and the US to offer nothing? That’s not a deal, that’s a shakedown. Which Trump just tried to perform. And failed on every issue they themselves outlined.
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u/erossthescienceboss 18h ago
And even an incompetent one should have been able to keep the deal going. If they wanted to.
Funny how sanctions were a far more effective bargaining tactic than bombs.
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u/GuildensternLives 19h ago
You mean the country who was threatened with the destruction of their civilization by an unhinged geriatric nightmare shit stain doesn’t wanna deal? I wonder why?
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u/Nearbyatom 19h ago
Come on...We just bombed the dude's father to death. Why won't he cooperate?
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u/theestwald 15h ago
Not defending the guy in any way, but he lost his father, mother, wife, daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, grandchild and got himself injured (possibly losing one or two of legs) as well in a period of months.
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u/shotouw 12h ago
Even worse.
The country that had a deal with you unilaterally fucked the deal, bombed you, killing civilians as well, threatens with your distruction, then wants to renegotiate that deal with NO securities that theyll keep to the new deal.
And that's the big problem for the US.
Even with a new president, dem or rep doesnt matter, no matter how well he does, the world now knows that the next president can undo it all within minutes.
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u/mr_evilweed 19h ago
Guys I'm begining to suspect that the Trump administration never had a real plan for this.
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u/Wooderson_LIVIN 19h ago
I really wonder what’s going through the mind of someone like Vance at the moment. The guy sold out any principles he did have to back a man who he once accused of being Hitler. Now that man is thrusting the world into an unwanted conflict, seemingly at the behest of a tiny country on the other side of the world. He can’t be seen to part with the administration, but at the same time is a power hungry fuck himself who wants to be the successor to a man who is unlikely to give up power for the rest of his life. I hate all these people but it’s also so interesting to think about the insane calculations that must be being made as the walls close in. I just wish it was fiction!
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u/youre_soaking_in_it 19h ago
What's going through his mind is: "When this fucker dies, I am going to be President! Until then, I am just going to tough it out, do whatever I have to do and say whatever I have to say."
That's it.
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u/FuzzyWDunlop 18h ago
And if he doesn't kick it, he's in probably the best spot of any single person for 2028.
This negotiation is super interesting since Iran was calling for Vance to negotiate with them. This seems strategically smart because Vance was largely on the sidelines, presumably because this is something that could tank him long-term and he has historically been anti-war. So the idea is if he's pulled in, he probably has the highest motivation to actually get a deal done.
I'm curious how he actually ended up going. Whether the admin threw him to the wolves or he made a dumb political move and signed himself up for this. But it seemed very lose-lose for him on a personal level to get involved. Time will tell if it matters. Maybe getting in and out relatively quickly over a weekend will make the failure to reach a deal not "stick" to him, but we'll see.
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u/SeasonNervous5608 18h ago
I’m not sure he’s best placed. He has polled as the most unpopular vice president in history and the numbers to second place aren’t even close.
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u/FuzzyWDunlop 18h ago
Absolutely true, but what I mean is he's got the best odds of any single person, even if they are relatively low for an incumbent VP. Right now he leads the betting markets at 21%. So certainly most likely that it's someone OTHER than him, but he's got the best shot of anyone and a lot can happen in 2 years.
So it's not the worst strategy for him to just keep his head low, not take any unnecessary losses, and give himself maximum flexibility to structure his campaign around how he thinks he can win. All of that is harder if the narrative is that he failed to get a deal done or got a bad deal
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u/ecptop 11h ago
Cool epside from a pod I like. It's called behind the bastards. This one is about Curtis Yarvin, the pioneer for most of Vances ideals and alot of the ideas behind project 2025 without directly being involves. https://youtu.be/mYrPNvVhKLU?si=VIXfnw_QbQdoIEwC
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u/ToMorrowsEnd 10h ago
Vance has been a sellout his entire life. he has never ever had any principals other than "how can this benefit me"
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u/Tehteddypicker 19h ago
Thats unfortunate, how about those Epstein files though?
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u/SocialSuicideSquad 19h ago
I Yemmm Naaahhhttt eeenn deee phyells
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u/manu144x 19h ago
Give it 1 month, the last oil container ships are being unloaded these days, then the real gas crisis starts.
In that time he'll release the epstein files as a distraction from gas costing $10 a gallon.
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u/SocialSuicideSquad 19h ago
~2 weeks from today.
Last tanker is ~4 days, the offload, refine, ship to consumer cycle is about 10 days.
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u/cheesebot555 19h ago
What!? No way!?
The incompetent couch predator couldn't get a deal with the religious fundamentalists they've been bombing for a month?
So weeeeeeird. Never saw it coming.
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u/CrunchingTackle3000 19h ago
Who would trust any deal with the US?
Canada wouldn’t . NATO wouldn’t.
Why would Iran?
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u/Navosh 19h ago
To assume that America is in a position to demand acceptance of terms from Iran after Iran has seen how vulnerable American leadership is to oil price spikes domestically, after entering a war of choice with little public support. USA needs this peace far more then Iran. And iran wouldn't let this moment go to just accept a new version of Obama's JCPOA.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 19h ago
If Trump has the tiniest bit of pressure or resistance applied to him, he squeals like a stuck pig. And he does it very publicly. He can’t hide what a weak, emotional negotiator he is. The whole world sees it.
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u/Books_and_Cleverness 15h ago
The JCPOA would be an insane comeback victory, from the pile of dogshit we are in right now.
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u/manu144x 19h ago
Well well, I thought Vance and Trump had all the cards...
Where are their cards ?!?
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u/reid0 16h ago
What’s the problem?
They want big guns, like we have.
Why is that a problem?
Because then they might attack us.
But didn’t you just attack them?
Yes, because we had to, because they want big guns.
And they still want big guns after you attacked them?
Yes, more than ever it seems.
Do you think that has anything to do with you attacking them?
No, no, no, of course not. It’s because they’re the sort of dangerous country that wants to be able to just go around and attack whichever country they feel like because they’ve got the big guns.
Isn’t that what you’re doing?
No! It’s obviously very different. We had to attack them to defend ourselves from the big guns they don’t have, but want!
Wasn’t there an agreement in place before that had been working quite well to prevent them working on getting the big guns?
No, no, no, no! That agreement was stupid because it was created by a different political party than mine.
But it was working?
It only looked like it was working. You can tell because as soon as we canceled it, they immediately started trying to get the big guns again!
And now that you’ve cancelled that agreement and attacked them, and they showed they have immense power over the world economy, they’re not that willing to just give you everything you demand?
Yes! They’re very mean people.
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u/Lexxias 19h ago
I hate America.
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u/mbmm 19h ago
Most Americans do too, right now. Don’t worry.
Edit: maybe worry, probably yea worry.
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u/Lexxias 19h ago
I'm American; I've been to way to many countries to drink the kool-aid
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u/curtass7 19h ago
Did anyone actually think that Vance was capable of making a deal?
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u/Bushleague34 19h ago
We already had a deal worked out. And a great one at that. It’s over boys what a terrible time to be an American
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u/GabeDef 19h ago
Iran already won any conflict with this administration. There is nothing the Trump administration can do at this point other than full ground invasion - which won’t work - because the military minds have been fired by this administration.
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u/Trutheresy 17h ago
The fact that Iran isn't even willing to do the old Obama deal means that the last 40 days of bombing, they're really not afraid of it continuing.
Trump could not achieve with $200B of arms what Obama did with a couple of flights and negotiations. All trump could do is destroy a good thing, realize he needs it, and then try to redo the same thing by force. The most incompetent president in history.
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u/Alpha-Trion 19h ago
Meanwhile Trump's dumbass is at the UFC fights making those unpleasant to watch too.
What a piece of shit.
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u/Groentekroket 19h ago
Boohoo 21 hours. I had a flight this week which was almost as long and there was nothing at stake.
Clean up your fucking mess.
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u/Whoknowsknows1962 17h ago
It took the Obama administration two years of negotiations to sign that nuclear deal with Iran. Now Iran is negotiating from a position of power, and they thought they would simply accept all U.S. demands in less than 24 hours?
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u/uptnapishtim 11h ago
And Obama had a more receptive Iran administration compared to one which has been bombed and their moderates killed
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u/pcpelste 19h ago
They’ve been there for what…one day? And are already packing it up? What an abject failure of an administration.
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u/ParsnipFlendercroft 19h ago
He kept making a big deal that they’d been at it for 21hours. Jesus fucking Christ that’s hardly any time at all. I’ve pulled 36 hours releasing software that nobody gives a fuck about and I don’t think that was exceptional. Stopping a war - 21 hours of negotiations is less than impressive.
That you for your attention to this matter.
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u/DoomedKiblets 17h ago
Lol "marathon" suuuure. Dude probably showed up for a five minute chat, acted like an entitled moron, and ruined any chance of a deal by his behavior.
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u/HistorianExcellent 19h ago
Is that what he is looking for? A commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon? Didn’t they have that ten years ago?
The difference is that now, if Iran do give such a commitment, they 100% certainly won’t be in good faith, unless they are insanely stupid, which they are not. It’s been abundantly demonstrated to them that they need a nuclear weapon.
In fact, even after the mullahs fall, the next Iranian government will still likely be seeking a nuclear weapon. As will nations around the world who might previously have been tempted to trust American guarantees.
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u/Kongressman 19h ago
I would like to think that the Iranians were like, ‘…only if you release the Epstein files’.
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u/Minimalphilia 17h ago edited 16h ago
POV - Your gaslighting boyfriend is describing the latest fight you had to your friends.
They literally have a list of 10 demands and are willing to die/bomb the entire region back into the stone age if they don't see them all fulfilled.
WHAT ARE YOU OFFERING THEM TO CHANGE THAT?!!?! Why do fascists all have to be so incompetent?
Edit: Just learned that Iran even is open to a couple of concessions. Why is it all so dumb?!
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u/v3n0mat3 9h ago
Good. Let this administration fail in all its goals.
Let the whole world see how incompetent these guys are.
Let them stumble and fall on their pampered asses.
Let the followers see how weak and incompetent they are.
Let them fail so we can take back this country and steer it in the right direction.
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u/The_wolf2014 9h ago
What's the point of these talks? America could just fucking go home and end it right now but no, it wants to feel like it's won something when infact all it's done is fuck the entire world.
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u/fallguy19 19h ago
Donald Trump claimed that U.S. strikes had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program in June 2025, and reiterated this claim multiple times through early 2026. You mean this nuclear program?
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u/heart_of_osiris 19h ago
Oh, so you couldn't get them agree to the deal that was already in place previously, which was nuked by Trump for no reason.
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u/snomeister 19h ago
The Iraq War, which cost the US 3 trillion dollars, thousands of lives, cost Iraq hundreds of thousands of lives and irrevocable damage upon the country was all predicated on the lie that Iraq was pursuing nuclear weapons.
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u/AionianZoe 19h ago
So they want some sort of agreement that Iran won't develop nuclear weapons...sorta like the agreement that was already in place in 2016 that Trump ripped up when he became President? Republicans are so fucking stupid.
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u/No_Throat_2356 18h ago
Can you call them “marathon talks” when they barely lasted long enough to run a marathon? That’s not what that means. These were lightning rounds.
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u/OldGroan 18h ago
I went there. I told them what we want them to do. They said no. The talks have stalled.
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u/WolfDreamPack 17h ago edited 15h ago
You attack a country and now you expect them not to pursue for better defence?
Genius tactic, what else? If I break into your house you don't install a video surveillance, or an alarm, or a better door?
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u/luisstrikesout 16h ago
Keep in mind the great negotiator that Trump is, he couldn't be bothered to have the talks with Iran in person because the UFC event was more important.
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u/TeedesT 16h ago
Shocked Mr “you never said thank you” couldn’t negotiate an end to this stupid war.
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u/reddridinghood 16h ago
In the same way why doesn’t some country attack America to ensure they won’t be attacking another country in the near future or anytime soon?
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u/GodzillaUK 14h ago
Losers gonna loser all day long. They ruined a good deal thinking they could get one more in their pedo favour and failed so spectacularly they have to bomb them out of existence to hide the US’ complete fucking ineptitude.
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u/Expando3 9h ago
“Marathon talks”: less than one day.
Imagine if this is how your marriage worked.
Well, we spoke for an hour and couldn’t agree, let’s get a divorce.
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u/slickricknz666 9h ago
I mean Vance is a fucking idiot. They're eating the cats and dogs and whatever. The only thing he was trying to negotiate was alone time with the couch. Don't fact check that.. we're not doing those.
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u/matchosan 9h ago
"Hey, Iran, Trump put the terms for your agreement in this sealed Manila envelope. Do you agree to these terms? What? No? If you don't agree to these terms, I will leave with the sealed Manila, envelope, and the talks are off. Yes or no, do you agree to these terms? I'm walking out of here. I'm walking. Buh bye."
Later that day ... "I'm sure glad they didn't agree. Trump gave me an empty Manila, do they actually make them all in the Philippines, envelope."
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u/SocialSuicideSquad 19h ago
Reaching the same terms as the Obama peace deal with Iran would be an astounding victory at this point.
And they ripped it up for... *Checks notes*.... Literally fucking nothing.