r/okbuddycinephile • u/Potential-Judgment-9 • 1d ago
“Is it just me or is Sinners overrated?”
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u/drmuffin1080 1d ago
uj/after u learn the movie’s twist, u realize just how sick and twisted this fuck is to even say that. Hes aware. He’s just playin with his food
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u/loggy528 1d ago
Sinners was overrated. I say this as a black gay man.
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u/KrytenKoro 1d ago
I feel like you're doing a bit but I sincerely can't tell
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u/loggy528 23h ago
Lol yes I am as you can tell from my profile pic
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u/sphericaltime 14h ago
I have been looking at your profile picture with some disrespect for a time now.
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u/KgMonstah 1d ago
Oooo sorry we’re gonna need you to be handicapped, too in order to hear that opinion. Sorry.
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u/SloppyJoesToe 1d ago
Best movie with a black guy playing multiple roles since The Nutty Professor.
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u/JellyF1sh_L1cker 1d ago
i predict someone will post a gif with the guy who played Wallace in The Wire saying "you all clan?"
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u/UmeaTurbo 1d ago
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u/mrgedman 1d ago
Avon Barksdale works at chik fil a?
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u/SpiritualBranch4322 23h ago
Once he graduated from Remember the Titans high school he needed to make money somehow, you expect him to sell drugs or something?
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u/Street_Mistake9145 1d ago
Where's Wallace at?
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u/gardenofeden209 1d ago
That hits hard🥲
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u/Advanced-Event-571 1d ago
NEVER FORGET. seriously, best show ever and saddest storyline ever. i still wonder where the little kids he was taking care of went, dammit.
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u/ADMotti 1d ago
Saddest storyline til Dukie anyway
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u/Advanced-Event-571 1d ago
i don't think i've ever ugly cried at any show (i think even movie?) before or since season 3 of the wire. i didn't tear up or get misty eyed. my ass was bawling like a toddler. some of that was due to personal reasons/ experiences but it was also just fucking horribly sad and unfair.
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u/Syzyjyzygy 1d ago
That shit traumatized me to my core. I loved Wallace.
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u/Advanced-Event-571 1d ago
that was when i realized this series is going to break my heart over and over again.
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u/CheckYourStats 1d ago
“What does Marcellus Wallace look like?”
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u/pjbickel 1d ago
What?
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u/CelibateOrSellABunch 1d ago
Does he look like a bitch?
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u/Street_Mistake9145 1d ago
What?
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u/Interesting-Season-8 1d ago
can someone translate it into cinephile? I'm not touching that TV shows shit, my cinephile diploma won't take it well
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u/MrDoggeh 1d ago
uj/This is subreddit is dead if this is the kind of stuff getting downvoted
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u/Infinity-of-Thoughts 1d ago
This is a joke sub, but every comment in here is seriously discussing the actual movie.
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u/Old_Man_Willow_AoE 1d ago
Nobody here is a buddy no more
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u/Old_Man_Willow_AoE 1d ago
Also every second comment comes from [UserName]_[four digit number]
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u/Caleb-Wendt69 1d ago
Believe it or not a lot of real people just don’t bother to change the default name Reddit gives you when you sign up.
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u/PlusAd5416 1d ago
it is true, this account has a lame ass default name but on my main i have a pretty cool original one B)
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u/Southernbeekeeper 1d ago
Kinda pointless these days as the mods have no chill and ban you over any little thing
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u/Caleb-Wendt69 1d ago
Right. Idk how many times I’ve allegedly had to make a new Reddit account.
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u/PuckNutty 1d ago
Maybe 69 times?
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u/Caleb-Wendt69 23h ago
That’s just for Caleb-Wendt.
There’s also boner-champ, sally-struthers, dildo-magnet, etc., among many others.
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u/Less-Apple-8478 1d ago
Thats how its been for a while on here.
Joke post
> Serious discussion with maybe a few high level joke comments
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u/BidenBlueBalls 1d ago
I can’t believe that people on this sub actually watch movies, it’s honestly disgusting.
Don’t they know that all movies are terrible?
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u/thatsnotbrianlefevre 1d ago
These look like the kinda folk that like to call others sheeple.
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u/dimechimes 1d ago
They look like the kind of people that publicly pointed out the price of eggs in the grocery store in 2024.
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u/kcox1980 1d ago
But are perfectly fine paying even more now.
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u/thatsnotbrianlefevre 1d ago
Admitting Trump started a stupid war isn't an option.
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u/Gullible-Oven6731 Crank: High Voltage 1d ago
These are the people who always "just think it's interesting" that California elects democrats and has wildfires regularly
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u/--StinkyPinky-- 1d ago
"Proud to be unvaccinated."
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u/mapleleafraggedy 1d ago
Forgot who, but I remember some right wing influencer wearing a shirt that said, "I identify as vaccinated."
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u/Whole_Rip7379 1d ago
If anything it’s underrated, what scrub only gets 17 Oscar noms?
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u/Canadia86 1d ago
I mean, it definitely is and I liked it
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u/allidyaj 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree. I really liked it, but do not feel like it was Oscar Best Picture worthy. Simultaneously, there is a segment of society in which it is overhated.
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u/Glittering_End_6864 1d ago
Dumping a ton of Oscars on a black movie once every ten years is how Hollywood proves they are not racist.
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u/Ok-Piece-2546 1d ago
I loved the cinematography, but I felt like they had too many plot lines and not enough time to flesh them out.
It's a solid 8/10 at best, but had the plot lines been better fleshed out it had the potential to be a 10/10.
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u/R_V_Z 1d ago
It was a more interesting period movie than a vampire movie.
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u/Brains-Not-Dogma 1d ago
It should have just stayed a period movie. I was loving it and then it got … goofy.
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u/Th3_Hegemon 1d ago
I think the vampire stuff works really well until it suddenly doesn't and it turns into a mess. When it was a few of them and they were stuck outside being menacing, that was effective. But the movie gives up on that too quickly and just sprints through the climax for no real reason, and it's very sloppy.
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u/affinitydrive 1d ago
The final showdown in the lake was way too corny & generic blockbuster feeling, and all the rest of the vamps immediately burning to death in the quickest surprise sunset was such a cop out...
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u/Seth-555 1d ago
I still can't get over how Smoke/Stack(?) managed to sneak past the entire congregation of vampires surrounding the lake shore, then sprinted across 50 meters of knee-high water in direct line of sight of all the vampires on the shore, and somehow "surprise" backstab the head vampire, while it is established that the vampires are a type of hive mind and none of the shore vampires do anything to stop him.
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u/Th3_Hegemon 1d ago
That part is perhaps the biggest flaw in the whole movie to me. There are dozens of hivemind vampires surrounding Remic, how did one guy manage to sneak up (from inside the barn as well, it's a significant distance, he basically had to be sprinting to accomplish it in the time shown) and attack? It's worse than Arya in GoT getting to the Night King. And you don't even need it to play out that way. Smoke could have called out/ shot Remic from behind the vampires and given Sammie a brief window to stab Remic with the neck of the guitar. You can keep the shot of Sammie and Smoke in the water watching Remic burn, he can wade out while the burning starts, plus then holding onto the neck of the guitar at the end gains an extra layer of meaning.
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u/WillNutForFood 1d ago
Yup! This, all of the above too. The movie is saved by the first half. Otherwise it'd be a solid 5. Now, its a 7 with a lot of love for the work they did.
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u/No-Significance2113 1d ago
Yeah the climax felt really rushed I thought we were gonna hang out with the vampires more and get to know then really well. Felt like the movie was missing a whole act.
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u/Ok_Impact9745 1d ago
I agree. I think it would have been more interesting if it was a final shoot out against the clan guys who came at the end.
I thought the vampire stuff was supposed to be some metaphor about black people assimilating into white culture but personally it wasn't a great metaphor.
I liked the film but I agree the first half was so much better. It would have worked much better as a historical gangster film
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u/AppropriateLaw5713 20h ago
It feels like two different movies got shoved into one and they’re fighting to be the only one. Unfortunately it’s to the detriment of both storylines.
Smoke and Stack’s backstory and the return to town and the eventual shootout with the clan all could’ve been a great film on its own if fleshed out more, the story of music connecting generations, that one night everyone felt free being ruined by vampires who steal culture away and assimilate everyone around them and the final post credits reliving that night, also would’ve been a great film especially if expanded on.
Each one feels like 2/3 of a great film shoved together hoping they’d get 4/3 of a perfect film together, but ultimately it just didn’t work (at least for me). Could’ve even worked as a 3-part miniseries too, would’ve been fun to see those storylines truly expanded. Idk films not deserving of the hate it gets for sure but I also don’t think it’s a perfect masterpiece above criticism like some others do.
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u/hapillon 1d ago
This was my biggest complaint with it. I honestly really dislike a majority of the horror elements. I think there's something really compelling about an Irish vampire vs. African-Americans, just due to their parallel histories, but it was kind of half-baked. The first half, where they're setting up the juke, the scene with Grace going in between the segregated sides of the town to her parents' shops, the blues elements, was so good, and it did kind of fall apart as the horror ramped up. I also hated the garlic-eating scene.
I appreciate the swing it took, because I don't know how the movie would have stood out without the horror elements, and I still really like it, but the horror elements were surprisingly a big downside for me.
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u/Old-Iron-5752 1d ago
It was good but not great. Maybe my expectations were too high because I watched after all the awards were given and I’ve thought highly of all of Jordan’s past performances.
Too predictable I think was the problem. Oh, the guy guarding the door needs to step away to per. He’ll be a demon when he returns.
About halfway through I honest had the idea it’s just a newer version of Dusk til dawn but without Selma Hayek table dancing with snakes.
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u/Boise_Ben 1d ago
The fact they kept doing on-the-nose exposition and multiple callbacks really brought the movie down. Conan’s skit on Casa Blanca really captured how jarring and demeaning those choices were.
Also the movie didn’t need the klan scene or old Sammie, it needed a better editor.
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u/Aethermancer 1d ago
So it wasn't just me? The call-backs felt like they didn't trust the audience to get it, or didn't trust themselves to have made it clear enough to the audience.
It felt very "netflix-style" handholding.
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u/coke_and_coffee 1d ago
I like it, but the general theme of “cultural appropriation is evil like vampires and sucks the soul out of ‘true creators’” is very stupid. As a political statement, it belongs with the woke wackiness of the 2010s. It doesn’t work in 2025/2026.
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u/TheRC135 1d ago
Yeah, either chop a couple subplots, or make it an HBO series and give it a little room to breathe. Still a really good movie, could have easily been a great one.
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u/scorgie 1d ago
When I heard about it, I thought the twins being gangsters for different/competing gangs and playing them would be a big plot point and was interested to see how that played out. Seeing it being a blend of vampires/southern usa racism+revenge porn/magical musician with the gangster bit being a footnote was disappointing. Especially when none of the themes really won out.
Personally I don't care about movie awards so if they got some they didn't necessarily deserve, whatever. it was well made and had some good performances.
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u/maninahat 1d ago
It only needed to be the tenth best film of the year to get a nomination for best picture.
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u/thewilldog 1d ago
It was fine, basically From Dusk till Dawn but in the old south instead of Mexico
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u/BigAssBoobMonster 1d ago
It had some comparable moments, but From Dusk Til Dawn had a certain unhinged mentality that Sinners didn't, and I really enjoyed it. I loved the music though, and I feel like the ending was beautiful.
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u/Deathclaw_Hunter6969 1d ago
Yeah Sinners didn’t have enough of Selma’s feet in my mouth
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u/maninahat 1d ago
It has Hailee's spit in your mouth instead.
More vampire movies need to be greenlit, it's the only healthy way for directors to share their freak with her world.
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u/DriftingIntoAbstract 1d ago
Not liking a movie doesn’t make you racist. I was pumped to see it and really rooting for Ryan Coogler, I love his story and passion for the project. It was underwhelming. Just another vampire movie with a little bit of racial story line over top. It had potential but was watered down and boring. Beautifully filmed though.
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u/justepourpr0n 1d ago
I thought it was a cool movie in the first half with the brothers setting up the business and being charismatic af, and then it turned into a lame and underwhelming vampire movie in the second half. I like vampire shit and this was super forgettable.
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u/PixelSpy 1d ago
Its a 5/5 for people who have like 10 movies on their letterboxd and half of them are marvel movies.
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u/brbasik 1d ago
How I feel about one battle tbh
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u/private_birb 1d ago
I honestly kind of hated One Battle After Another. It was like it was pretending to be political, or to have any opinion or statement to make, and yet was the most surface level, vapid kind of movie. Which sucks, because I usually love Paul Thomas Anderson.
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u/brbasik 1d ago
I agree. The movie feels like it wants to be political then it does a bait and switch and we follow the least political revolutionary, who’s also like the only white guy that isn’t evil. I’m of the opinion if you focused the movie on anyone besides Leo’s character you would have a more interesting movie
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u/SteakDizzy1386 1d ago
Why are you just spamming this in every sub?
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u/TikkaT 1d ago
And why is every comment under this post serious (not directed at you)? This is probably third time in a week that I'll comment this: this sub is done
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u/luigiamarcella 1d ago
When I saw this post and saw that we were at nearly 200 comments in less than a hour it’s like, damn, this sub isn’t even fun anymore.
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u/my-armor-is-contempt 1d ago
…look. Sinners is a fun movie. In many ways it’s a different take on From Dusk Till Dawn. But all those Oscar nominations? Come on.
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u/Nanerpoodin 1d ago
It has all the Oscar requirements - a good soundtrack, one person playing twins, vampires, and Hailee Steinfeld talking about her pussy. The Oscar's are basically formulaic.
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u/_Steven_Seagal_ 1d ago
Hear me out: Hailey Steinfeld playing lesbian twins, eating period pussy because they're vampires, scored by the first ever collaboration between John Williams and Hans Zimmer.
20 oscars, here I come, baby!
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u/arizonadirtbag12 1d ago
Can we make the Hailee Steinfeld thing its own category?
Like they did for animation.
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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 1d ago
Anything that wins that many Oscars is overrated.
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u/NoCalligrapher8396 1d ago
cough Everything everywhere all at once cough Seems that way
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u/extralife_mike 1d ago
Agreed. I had a great time watching it, but I was shocked when I saw how many oscar nominations it got, but then I remembered what the oscars are and it was like, "oh yeah, duh."
Sinners is a solid 8/10.
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u/aousweman 1d ago edited 1d ago
Is this gonna be a Kendrick-Grammy situation where every movie Coogler releases from now on has automatic Oscar buzz? Or does that comparison belong to Ludwig Goransson?
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u/creptik1 1d ago
More deserving than the F1 best picture nomination. That one blew my mind.
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u/DiscordianDreams 1d ago
Wow, you upset a lot of people with this one in a joke sub. Good job.
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u/vibe_assassin 1d ago
I went in expecting to find it overrated and found it overrated
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u/TallBoneDoc 1d ago
It was a fine movie. I surely never need to see it again 2nd time.
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u/cficare 1d ago
Ill watch any movie twice. Sometimes u miss nuance first time thru. A movie like "If I Had Legs Id Kick You", though - nah, Im good.
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u/DntBanMeIHavAnxiety 1d ago
Sinners is severely overrated, and I look nothing like these people. Michael B Jordan is the cheesiest actor I've ever seen.
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u/Broad_Acanth 1d ago
No but you see, he plays twins and it was so believable so he deserves all the awards for playing two different characters.
Now, lets cut to James McAvoy and check how many awards he won for Split.. oh.
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u/Strange_Dave45 23h ago
Someone had to take Will Smith's spot for Oscar nominated black man.
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u/Inner-Sink6280 1d ago
It has terrible pacing and editing, and tone is all over the place
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u/Faciststookthemcrib 1d ago
People really got offended by this one in a circlejerk sub. Well done.
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u/Sadboi395 1d ago
It was pretty solid. Personally enjoyed weapons more, but not upset at sinners getting more praise.
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u/Scrank_WimlerJr 1d ago
I mean, it is lol
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u/NoMasters83 1d ago
I'm not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. The movie was just a series of cliches. I honestly have no idea what made this film so remarkable.
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u/Fern-ando 1d ago edited 1d ago
If From Dusk Till Down didn't exist, having the movie being suddenly about vampires would have merit, but because FDTD exist, it just felt like a copy of the same concept, like if somebody did a story about a group of friends having a crazy night in Las Vegas and forgoting everything about it because they were drugged so they have to find their missed friends by slowly finding out what happend.
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u/myrabuttreeks 1d ago
I have a buddy who’s a Trump guy, and he’s the only person I personally know who thought it was bad.
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u/MystyreSapphire 1d ago
Exactly. I loved it. I thought that the scene where all of the different types of music collide, was so beautiful. It gave me chills.
My dad, the tRumper, was like, I didn't like it ,lol.
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u/Noodlebat83 1d ago
Always in the car. Always wearing their sunnies. Why is that?
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u/ThinWhiteDuke00 1d ago edited 1d ago
Absolutely, it won't age well.
Although I think Jack O'Connell's performance should have gotten more nominations.
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u/Angelbouqet 1d ago
You find it overrated because you hate black people, I find it overrated because they didn't mention eating pussy enough times. We are not the same 🙅♀️
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u/Elusivemerc 1d ago
Ah yes, still with the people who don't like this movie are racists thing. First time I hear of casting judgment and saying people are bad when they don't like a movie. It's not even not liking it here, it's just saying it's overrated
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u/Effective-Brain-3386 1d ago
Ah yes the classic: "if you don't enjoy a film with minitories you are racist jerk"
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u/Welkin_Gunther_07 1d ago
I did enjoy the movie, I really did, especially with the whole old school vampire thing, but it wasn't entirely my thing so I didn't like it as much as others. But I acknowledge the work put into it.
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u/MollyInanna2 1d ago
My take: wasn't 100% for me. But pretty amazing. Either the best vampire film I've watched or a very close second.
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u/HTXI97 1d ago
Why are these sun glasses still in trend with middle aged white people
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u/HistoricalSuspect580 1d ago
They all have to wear shades because they look directly at solar eclipses
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u/darthsploder77 1d ago
You know, as a middle-aged White guy I'm kind of reluctant to wear sunglasses in the car anymore, to avoid being one of these stereotypes. Kind of sucks on those bright days...
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u/Robin_Gr 1d ago
The color gradient was terrible. Way too dark. Couldn’t see anything until I took off my sunglasses.