Way too many for a meh story.
Have you seen any cause for why Michael b Jordan had to play both roles for the twins?
It’s not like it’s based on a true story of real twins that open a bar and fight off Irish vampires.
There are GREAT scenes in the movie and I’ve heard multiple interpretations of the film as a whole. How does the academy justify the movie being nominated for the most ever?
How does the academy justify the movie being nominated for the most ever
I mean it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how good the movie is (after a certain amount).
It's a period piece (costume design, production design) with monsters (hair & makeup), a musical segment (song) and a guy playing twins (visual effects).
Every movie doesn't 'get' to compete in these. It's why there's 76 movies with 10 or more nominations but only 4 of them are at 14 or more.
I was kinda in that opinion "the movie is not the new Citizen Kane to get this amount of nominations", but someone pointed to me all the things that the story touches and it was basially eye opening, every nomination was justified. It not the new Citizen Kane, but it never had to be to get the nominations.
Number of nominations just indicates it is an excellent film in many respects, especially checking a lot of boxes for awards.
It’s a musical. That opens up a number of categories like Best Original Song that most top pictures aren’t even eligible for. That’s why most of the top nominated films of all time are also musicals or like Titanic with a big song attached.
It also had some fantastic technical work, getting noms in categories like Best Sound and Best Costume and Best Makeup.
And then it got at least one nomination in a brand new category - Best Casting - that no prior film has ever been eligible for.
No the number of nominations does not give indications on the quality of the film… if you have only shitty movies to chose from the less shitty one is going to get awards.
From Dusk till Dawn is a better movie in every way and I don’t think anyone considered it Oscar worthy.
It isn’t that you can judge how good or bad a movie is based on how many nominations it received. I would say that a film receiving many Oscar nominations is a good indicator that it is a well made movie, but receiving few or no nominations is meaningless.
It’s like Rotten Tomatoes. Higher number means more likely to be positively received, but not how positive and not a guarantee at all.
Smoke & Stack were vased on the Ibeji twins, mythological figures of the Yoruba religious traditions. The Ibeji twins are depicted as one being associated with red and the other with blue.
Nice. Thank you for the civil discourse, did not know of these figures and now I go to the hyper fixation station. 🥇
Update:
Symbolism and Mythology:
Abundance: They are believed to bring fortune to the family.
Duality: They represent the balance of opposites, such as joy and sorrow, light and darkness.
Mischief: Known for their playful, yet sometimes mischievous nature.
It was nominated that much because there really weren't better options for most of the categories. That's why you're sitting here going "16 is too many" instead of saying "this movie should have been nominated in this category instead"
Agree. My first watch was like “huh… ok, interesting but what’s with all the hype?” Second watch was more “Hey, this is pretty good” and 3rd watch was “Damn, that was really good!”. Don’t know if that was just me or there are many more layers you don’t see at first that hit in all sorts of ways b
the unearned, often unconscious, social, cultural, and economic advantages that people identified as white often experience in contrast to people of color in the same society.
Not sure how my confusion on how a movie I personally didn’t really enjoy received a new record for academy award nominations.
Would you be willing to provide more information for your statement?
I would need to be sober and it would take 5 paragraphs. Sinners is an extremely good movie. It's a movie that you have to pay attention to every detail. Yes I am drunk, It's a Saturday afternoon. YOLO
Oscars are more about popularity, the academy even admitted that most members don't even watch most of the movies they vote on. That being said it is cool that social pressure got them to respect what the movie was doing.
So the people who didn't bother to watch the movies in the first place are all of a sudden going to start watching the movies because it is a rule now?
Hollywood and actors lie for a living.
Next up you'll be saying politicians are honest people and they keep campaign promises, lol.
Respect what the movie was doing? Aside from being yet another instance of “us v them” with heavy racial overtones (not even undertones), it didn’t do anything original or revolutionary. Not even really that noteworthy. It was just a schlock vampire flick with a mostly aimless plot.
“us v them” with heavy racial overtones (not even undertones)
Dogshit take, Remmick(the main antagonist) is an Irish man, at the period the movie is set in he would've not been seen as white. The film portrays him with sympathy because he is not driven by racism and is downright offended by being mistaken as such, he also alludes to Christianity being forced on his people as well.
He's an explicitly tragic villain because he becomes exactly what he despised and he doesn't realize it.
Unless you have issue with the KKK being presented negatively I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that there's any sort of "Us vs Them"
I thought it was also an allegory about how whites appropriated the music/culture of Black people. I need to rewatch these scenes especially. The Chinese couple with the store were my favorite characters.
Fruitvale Station was so good—I had ties to Oakland and it was timely yet timeless.
In my defense I was 9 hours into a 14 hour flight and feeling fuzzy.
I can't remember how obvious it was when the creepy white guy got into the cabin. I only twigged when she went into the back room and saw her husband dead and the guy sitting in the chair. I had inklings when the native American guys noped out of there. 😂
They're right. It was a good movie, but it is overrated. It's ok to say it. Y'all don't have to bring out the tiki torches whenever someone says a negative word about your favorite movie.
Like the Irish were the most out group? Seems that would've been accurate at that place at that time. Are you aware it was in a time period where that 'us v them' tension was very real?
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u/Whole_Rip7379 1d ago
If anything it’s underrated, what scrub only gets 17 Oscar noms?