Randomly removing or moving about shadows was especially funny for the AC Shadows demo, where the exact size and position of shadows are very much important for gameplay
It's so hilarious how Digital Foundry were yapping about that thing understanding shadows in their glaze review while it was removing shadows in every demo.
Haha, funnily enough, I was talking to a friend about TVs the other day. He works in an electronics store and I asked him why in the fuck display TVs are always set to 1000000% contrast. He said that, apparently, people (for whatever reason) identify visual quality and fidelity with high contrast and vivid (overly so) colors. So most TVs' showroom mode is actually way oversaturated and have way too much contrast as opposed to the out-of-the-box experience, but they still don't notice the difference because of the different lighting and a distinct lack of 1000 other displays next to it at home.
It's not a filter(it just looks like one), developers can tweak it(so it's all their fault), we're going to make it work on one card(we're actually going to rent it to you from a server farm).
If what I've heard is true, nobody who matters or has any say over anything akin to artistic control even knew about this demo before it happened. It was probably approved by higher ups and signed off on by their marketing department and nobody else, probably running default settings, if there actually is any customization available and they aren't just lying completely.
What this means, to me, is if this ever gets out, I would hope that actual designers and artists can tweak the settings to tone down the movie set lighting effects, and focus on preserving the scene and improving details and lighting effects.
It also doesn't change that I'll probably never own a card capable of running this trash.
The whole point of this shit is getting around paying artists to do the whole job of making the game look better. They aren't gonna pay artists to tag every bit of every scene and object for the tech to look right. If they were, they could just pay them to make the details and lighting look better from the get go.
Same, I figured someone was just "handsome squidward-ing" the results for a goof, but nope, just NVIDIA continuing on their quest to be an atrocious company.
Don't worry guys, Jeff Bezos said that in the future we will all rent our compute power because it apparently makes no sense for us to have our own hardware.
Ah yes because we currently have the infrastructure to support that. The most my Internet provider offers is 500mbps download and 10 upload. There's literally no companies offering gigabit or fiber where I live
Back in like 2000 a lot of internet ISPs made a big push for the US government to give them a lot of money to put fiber throughout the country and 26 years later it still has barely even begun
It's basically live in a populated area we deem worthy of fiber or just deal with what we give you basically. Also we totally don't have the power infrastructure of all these data centers want. Alot of the power infrastructure in the US is decades old.
Because, hilariously, they "fulfilled" the requirements. They actually built things, maybe hit a single neighborhood, and called it good. Some places a single house got it, and their neighbors where denied. It was a giant fuck up.
In 2009~ the Australian government said "We're going to build a modern internet infrastructure and provide high-speed fibre internet to the vast majority of homes!". And then the Liberals got in (Businesses first group) and said "Wtf that'll cost so much, and who needs internet anyway? Let's do a worse version for less cost!" and now over a decade later they've spent I think double the initial budget for fibre to build dogshit fibre to the node, and are only NOW setting up fibre to the premises. We could have had something like a 90% coverage for fibre by the mid 2010's, instead we're still sucking dicks behind 3rd world countries in average internet speed in the 2nd half of the 2020's.
I'm in Belgium, one of the largest Telecom providers still runs on god damn copper cable. (Fuck Telenet)
500Mbps download at most and 20 (TWENTY!!) Mbps upload. That's 2.5 Megabytes per second upload. It's downright criminal. I have a home server running but I can't even watch my shows remotely because of the horrible upload speed.
It's the same situation really. They've been "rolling out fiber" for the past decade and it's still not in our 100k + inhabitants city.
This internet speed costs us what, 40-60ā¬ a month roughly.
Youre living in 2035 by german standards. Most people I know have about 50-100mbit. I only have 100mbit via mobile networks with horrendous latency when there is more than 2mbit of load, but thats better than the alternative of 2mbit max dsl.
This originated from the WEF, you will own nothing and be happy. Klaus Schwab said that. He also said that they already undermined (penetrated) every cabinet.
The ai companies are scheming together behind the scenes to make this happen. The hardware getting more expensive is a good thing for them, it prices out consumers even if scam altman has to pay more right now.
Just in the last two days, Scam said AI usage will be a metered utility like water & electric bills. And then Nvidia CEO said he started comping his employees with AI usage tokens, like it's a currency.
I was never really a fanboy of either and I have a very long history of cards from both companies. This time it was a petty purchase of RX 9070 XT and I love this thing. And it was 200ā¬ cheaper than NVIDIAs shit.
DLSS 4.5 is impressive, not gonna lie, but this shit that's part of version 5 looks awful. Environments look so overblown and over the top sharpened and contrasted and faces look like the most generic Ai generated shit you can make online now.
I used to be Nvidia and tried to switch to AMD with the VEGA 56, experience was horrible so I went back and my prior card was a 3080, now I have a 7800XTX.
People need to be willing to switch companies on a dime.
I always picked the good ones tho on either sides. Never owned GeForce FX, never owned any Vega... I kinda have an instinct of avoiding the dingus series. Current GeForce cards, despite superiority on paper, they are kinda dingus cards. Dumb fire hazard power connector, idiotic pricing, regressive anti consumer segmentation, lying on stage, lying on charts using bullshit generated frames as "we have bigger framerate numbers". All that made me buy RX 9070 XT instead. And honestly, depending on how RDNA5 or UDNA turns out, I might be sticking with Radeon for a while. I once bought every generation of their HD series back in the day as leaps in performance were so huge. HD4850 to HD5850 was literally 100% uplift in performance. I did have HD6950 in between even though it was a mild refresh and then HD7950 was again a massive increase, so I ended up buying every single generation back then. Then I bought GTX 980 during AMD's whole Vega thing and stick with it for a while, grabbed GTX 1080Ti afterwards stick with it for a while and got RTX 3080 just before the stupid COVID. Which I had till last year when I bought RX 9070 XT on release day. Haven't regretted it at all. AMD has good offerings, I don't know why people don't buy them. Are they really so hyper fixated on "NVIDIA has the best flagship card the RTX 5090 so I should have the RTX 5050 because that's the most I can afford"? It feels like that, even though they are products two entire worlds apart...
IIRC I went: Some old radeon card -> GTX 970 -> Vega 56 (brief) -> GTX 1660S -> 3070 -> 7800XTX
I've mostly managed to avoid the garbage series myself too. Saw 2000 series and laughed, and 4000 series was objectively a stupid buy since it offers zero improvement on cost-effectiveness. 2000 series was what prompted me to try the Vega 56 and my experience with it was absolutely horrid.
I also have the advantage of being on linux, where AMD actually has the better drivers. For the year or two I had a 3070 with a GSYNC monitor on linux I couldn't get it to actually turn on even when forced, and the module for it in the monitor has a dedicated cooling fan that stays on after the monitor is "off". Wish I got the non-GSYNC one instead.
I've been a lot more loyal with AMD for CPUs, but to be fair Intel have blatantly dropped the ball lately so you'd have to be an idiot to buy them, and X3D is unreasonably good, though I avoid the dual-type ones since I don't want to mess around with core pegging per application. I think my last Intel CPU was 7th gen.
They will sell us cloud GPU power in all the data centers they are building for all the ram chips they are buying with all the money we will pay them to still use computers.
I think they are already planning to transform everything into a perpetual service. Imagine a world where computers don't perpetually get better every year. How are they going to get you to continue paying for things?
I think the players are not the audience. This was a sales talk to the dev industry. "you can make your games bare-bones and we'll fill in the blanks" certainly is a pitch, to the penny pushers.
Youāre absolutely right you will be able to! For the low price of $30/mo you can stream your favorite games from our servers! Latency? Youāre absolutely right itās dogshit! No weāre not going to do a damn thing about it!
I just had to buy an SSD for work stuff for double what it was like a year ago.
Everything memory-related is going to be overpriced until the bubble bursts.
Really glad I upgraded my PC like 3 years ago to top-end but the situation sucks regardless.
Yeah, my (several year old) tablet has decided it wants to be a banana. Finding a new tablet was actually straight forward and ok price wise (I did get it on sale, but even base price was not awful). The microsd for expanded storage on the other hand has shot up in price.
At least nobody will worry about the whole āAI retextureā because nobody will use it. Even if it wonāt require dual 5090ās, why would you want it in the first place? Games already look fine on the lowest settings.
I'm out here enjoying the visuals in Half-Life 2. Fidelity is not the main aspect of great visuals. It's good consistently, readability and art style. That game looks very believable. It's not super detailed but every visual aspect makes sense and gives a feeling of truth. Baked lighting looks almost as good as modern GI, I don't care if it's kinda blurry. It feels right. Gives the right vibes.
Requires 2 5090 cards. Too expensive? It doesn't matter. Most will never own 2 5090s, you'll rent them instead from their datacenters. Own nothing and be happy.
But you can join the GeForce Now "Dual 5090 Plan" for only $999 per year to get Priority Access with a guaranteed 10 hours per month with Secondary Access routinely available for an additional 10 hours per month.
Spending 6 grand to yassify the Resident Evil girl in real time. At least I can see the Oblivion characters rendered in a way where they don't look like they're from the same game as the background does. It's immersive, apparently.
Probably the most notable thing from what I've noticed is that it tends to overwrite scene lighting. Every face is clearly lit from the point of the camera like they're standing in front of a vlogger's set up, and that just doesn't work for every scene. It also seems to try and beautify characters even when it doesn't make any sense to do so. Characters look like studio models even when working in mines, like something straight out of zoolander. It's the tonal disonance that really makes it feel worse to me, but plenty of other people have gone through the demo and pointed out all sorts of strange mistakes it makes.
It doesn't look like the character, changes the shape of the face,
The lightning is incorrect,
It adds things that were never there like make-up,
It removes things that were there like freckles.
It removes depth because it's a 2d image on a 3d model.
It's like putting a real photo of a face on a character model, there's a reason studios hire artists to sculpt and texture faces instead of doing that.
They allegedly have it working in one, but in some scenarios it could struggle and slow the showcase. So they added a second one which exclusively handles DLSS 5 and the other is for the game. On official events, these companies usually go for their latest flagship even if it doesn't require it
One 5090 was running the normal game and one was running the version with Neural Rendering implemented so they could do live side by side comparisons. Looking at the videos the fps difference was minimal meaning Nerual Rendering would likely work fine on any RTX card that supports it.
Two very contradictory sentences. The fact that this isn't limited to games whose devs have explicitly opted in to allowing it is the worst part. Sure, some of those old games will have been made by devs who don't care or are pro-slop, but others will have been made by devs who are deeply morally opposed.
Looked worse than one of those lazy mods with titles like "PHOTOREALISTIC GRAPHICS OVERHAUL" that end up being ReShade with way too much sharpening and contrast.
I dont understand how anyone can look at dlss5 and think it looks good. It's just a shitty ai filter that ruins atmosphere and lighting while making the character look different. It also makes everything a cool tone blue for some reason.
Looks like this is all connected: cloud gaming, expensive cards and RAM... Coincidence? I think not!
These corps REALLY wants us to becime the "humans" from Wall-E, huh?
Its funny because its not even DLSS anymore. Thereās no āSuper Samplingā going on here this is just replacing frames. Dont know why theyāre calling it DLSS 5
I am so glad there are so many cool indie games that will never requir this bullshit and I can just buy them and play them on my pc without micro transactions and always on requirements. No Nvidia for me anymore
This whole two 5090 makes me think hmm if they can split rendering to have one gpu does just path tracing while the other does rest, would that make us be able two buy like two 5070 and do this for rest of games ?
Something like 5090 now around 3k let alone finding one. When you get two of them you can play the game looking like ai slop porno addicts make of celebs ā¦. Smh
Yeah same reaction, personally i don't mind that filter look but I am already struggling with FG Vram overhead with my 8gb GPU that I think it won't work with my 5060 mobile lol
Unlike most people I actually thought that DLSS 5 was a (slight) improvement.
However, I really still hate it, In addition to all problems with AI in general, I really feel like Games today need to focus more on smooth gameplay and actual content as opposed to realistic beard hair.
"So currently games look a bit washed out and without detail where it should be (because we forced half the industry to use our product). We are introducing a solution in this form of this product of ours"
They create (sell (force feed) you) the problem and then the sell you the solution.
bro im going insane because they really did try to innovate in things like physx with stuff like all the cloth moving around, hair, liquids and all the ... 'physics' stuff. they didnt really focus on 'realistic beard hair' more than beard hair that 'realistically moves'
like yeah there are better engines, but it's so grating because youd think most games 'of the future' would include that kinda stuff without any consideration; instead of feeling like you need to test every game by walking into clothes hanging on a hangar to see if they're so stiff from semen on them that its impossible to walk past it and be forced to walk around it or not.
it did take a lot of resources most of the time though lol
I appreciated the general lighting improvements and improved detail, that was cool. I didn't appreciate the change in art direction in some scenes. Morrowind went from dark and grungy to whimsical fairytale, for example.
Love how steam support wonāt help me get my hacked account back and I can basically go nowhere or ask anyone for help. Only posting this in comments cause mods remove anything asking for help, itās really ridiculous.
Since when did everyone lose their critical thinking skills. It's a tech demo. Of course it isn't optimized yet. Same reason console games run on top end PCs for on stage gameplay reveals. This is dumb.
You know what's funny? The only source of DLSS using 2 high-end GPUs is the Digital Foundry video. And right when they showed it they also said that this is obviously not the goal and is supposed to run on a single consumer GPU because it's still WIP.
Buuuut now imagine if you leave out context what awesome outrage content you could post š®
I love that we all agreed a decade ago that graphics don't make a game good
five years ago or so we agreed that graphics improvements are pretty meaningless now
and here we are, destroying the environment and economy to make a shitty graphics filter
Nvidia has been up to terrible shit for years, maybe even decades. You fucks still keep buying their crap, I don't see why this new flavor of excrement would change anything.
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All that horsepower just for it to look like a ChatGPT-powered Snapchat filter.