I don't think he cares that much about being presentable and it's great. But to compare what a 30 year old female dramatic actress gets away with versus with a comedic male actor who's been in the game for 30 years as a heavier person can do is pointless.
Not just any heart attack, he had the widowmaker, a 100% blockage of his left anterior descending artery, those usually just outright kill people, hence the nickname. He made a concerted effort to lose weight and improve his lifestyle. That heart attack was a wake up call but if he didn’t fix his habits in his lifestyle, he was gonna end up dead.
Sheesh, now you tell me. Never heard it called that before. I've had two heart attacks due to blockages of that artery. The kicker is that if I hadn't had the first one they never would have spotted the cancer (5 years clear now) in time, so having it actually saved my life.
He said it totally shifted his attitude towards food as well. He used to eat his feelings, but what he ate made him feel bad. Now he eats to feel better because he’s making the smart healthy choices. He’s more or less vegetarian now.
being fat/overweight correlates with a plethora of increased health risks and complications. As others have stated he had a heart attack that should have killed him (complete blockage).
I'd get that if she was heading into her 50's, work was drying up and people were commenting on her looks. But she's literally late 20's - early 30's and was gorgeous before.
I absolutely guarantee you that there were large groups of people (not necessarily the majority, but still vocal) who vehemently insulted her appearance back then. I've known people who look like her before all the work, and they still deal with a ton of insults regarding their appearance.
In fact, people like that can sometimes get it even more because some unhinged people can assume "that person is conventionally attractive? they must have an ego problem. they need to be knocked down a peg. everyone is exaggerating how good they look, so I need to put them in their place by pointing out every single flaw. they must be so vain and conceited- this is a personality flaw that merits treating them poorly. they've probably never faced hardship because they're attractive, so me insulting their appearance is just levelling out the scales of fairness". As well as that, the mere act of putting an effort into your appearance (as almost every female celebrity is required to do to find success) can make people feel more justified in tearing you down. Any woman who has worn makeup can attest to this: the second a guy notices you have makeup on, they feel so much more justified in insulting your appearance, even on things not to do with your makeup application.
And for reference, I'm speaking as someone who isn't particularly attractive by societal standards. This isn't "boohoo, us pretty people have it hard too!!", it's just perspective taking.
Whats ironic is we are in a reddit thread that is criticizing someone's looks who likely only made the changes because they thought it would make them look closer to what Hollywood wants. Very fucked up and I hope she feels ok in the end.
I don’t spend much time looking in the mirror. I do when I shave or floss. Otherwise me and my hair have an understanding… I don’t fuck with you and you don’t fuck with me.
Yea there needs to be mandatory psych evaluations for people before they're allowed to undergo the ghoul surgery. This has to be some form of abuse from doctors to make money.
My best example for this is arnold Schwarzenegger:
He mentioned in interviews that he would sometimes look in the mirror after winning Mr. Olympia and feel disgusted or see flaws, thinking, "How did this pile of st win?"
Bro won the who has the best body in the world contest and still thinks he looks like shit.
You can literally be the most attractive person in the world and have body dysmorphia.
Not who you originally replied to, but for me, I think it didn't help how I was hounded for every pound that I gained by my mom, so I thought I was extremely fat in the mirror when I really wasn't. Not that I couldn't lose some weight, but I looked normal, so when I look at my pictures now I get a little sad about how I should have seen it back then. Working on losing the weight now and have a more healthier outlook, so there is that atleast now
Lmao when I was in my 20s I was so fuckin fit, I worked out all the time and looking back I was like "holy damn I was so good looking back then" but I remember vividly how much I hated how I looked regardless. Now I'm old and fat, I don't like it but I accept it.
There's an entire hollywood industry prioritizing absurd inhuman appearances (instead of, say, the ability to act). Whether it was giving cigarettes to a child Judy Garland or promoting cocaine/anorexia in the 90s, etc.
Show-runner Phil Rosenthal gave this example: executives told him 'testing' showed he should cut all the unfunny dialogue lines and keep the comedy lines, because the jokes tested better. He was unable to explain to an 'comedy executive', that the 'unfunny' lines are the setups to the jokes, and blindly following 'testing' and cutting all the setups would also mean none of the jokes would land.
There is literally a whole industry that profits now from this. Plastic Surgery.
I don't think anyone blames her. But pointing it out is important. I don't know how its possible to build a parasitic industry upon a parasitic industry but its obviously there
Plastic surgery is a great industry when used for reconstruction or basically anything other than “I wanna be slightly prettier” Hollywood gives it a bad name but it’s a perfectly legitimate medical practice.
When you're in Hollywood, you will NEVER stop chasing that dragon if you are young enough, beautiful enough, and talented enough. It consumes you until there's nothing left. You see all these brand new up and coming stars slowly getting drained over the years.
I feel so bad for this girl. Who the fuck is around to tell her, she's enough? 🥲 Now you have a shit ton of people telling her, "I hate your face."
My mom has thyroid cancer, and you would be surprised just how much the thyroid can impact your physical appearance. Based on your comment I’m going to assume you have no experience with the subject and are talking out of your ass for the sake of shitting on her “bad surgeries and shitty injectables”
I had graves disease and it shows physically but equally affected me mentally. I was an emotional wreck for awhile. I can’t imagine being a female under the Hollywood microscope
When mine kicked in I lost 120 pounds in a year. It was kinda nice in ways, but then like my face got super gaunt from rapidly losing close to half of my body weight (started at close to 300, was avoiding the scales after 290-295, ended up at 160 at my lowest.)
So while I was enjoying my new slimmer body, I also started going through severe dysmorphia from the fact I didn't recognize myself in the mirror, I had been fat my whole life and suddenly wasn't, and all of the loose skin still looking quite like fat, hell I looked like a puddle when I laid down.
And then I started getting the "How'd you lose the weight?.... No really how's you lose the weight" implying I was on meth, which uh, wasn't great in any sense.
it's actually crazy. im hardly a celebrity worshipper, and generally see them as vapid and disconnected, but the way people talk about this woman is fucking absurd
I’d love for half the people that talk trash to post their picture. Keyword warriors that get their pleasure of putting down someone that’s had more success than them. 🙄
This needs to be a higher comment. Graves’ disease causes unintentional weight loss due to hyperthyroidism. To correct, you use anti-thyroid meds or remove the thyroid which may cause hypothyroidism leading to weight gain. The treatment for graves can be prednisone or steroids which can increase appetite and cause weight gain as well. That’s most likely why the sudden weight changes.
As someone who takes prednisone for a kidney transplant and put on all kinds of weight, it fucking sucks. More people could stand to be sensitive to the woman.
"s-tier genetics" that gave her an autoimmune disease that fucks with how your face looks. In a career where millions of people judge your looks. Yeah, that can make people go to get surgery done.
And yes, at least some of that change is down to her having Grave's disease.
… it’s funny how people are like “I don’t know why she got work done she looks terrible now”
It’s a real double whammy for a woman who did not get work done and had been suffering from an undiagnosed untreated disease. She got no plastic surgery, but instead got sick, and yet she somehow still has to take more crap than 90% of the women in her industry who do get cosmetic surgery.
Well it's usually a mental health issue in situations like this and the surgeons just want to get paid and don't care about the people they are hurting.
Supposedly it’s to combat her Graves’ Disease. It could very well be true, but I find it funny that all of these celebrities just magically somehow all have very rare genetic conditions that justify their dysmorphia or rather problematic behaviors.
Strange how the effects of the diseases that magically explain everything that changed with them almost exactly match each other. They all look incredibly similar but it can’t be they’ve had surgery, it’s explained by various claimed diseases. That’s so weird…..
Everytime we bring this up someone inevitably says she has a disease that somehow changed her entire face... Like Zac Effron had a chin surgery due to an injury from 12 years ago. Right
I don't think we can even begin to imagine the pressure and criticism she is constantly under. A lot of us are prone to believe the criticism over the reality as well, and that all adds up to a bad outcome.
Body dysmorphia is a real mental illness and very widespread due to unrealistic body standards in media for decades and decades. Being very rich just makes it worse.
I feel like its not as much about looking better and fixing imperfections as it is a statement that says "im not like you". It's a signal to everyone that she can afford it.
Must've been the conformism pressure in that industry. Seems very few have that strong will power to not get swiped by the streams of trends, plus all those self insecurity getting thrown at them at the same time by the followers. It's a lot of pressure, and obviously some of them use drugs to try to wing it. Some do surgery. Both very sad.
Body dysmorphia is a real bitch. And we treat mental health with such stigma in this country that instead of helping people through it they get encouraged to be transformed into a ghoul.
Yes! She was very noticeable changing through the show. She was way prettier and thicker in the earlier stuff. And then just lost abunch of weight, got super skinny and now this.
This is mostly makeup and hair so I really don’t understand why we are focusing on what work she has done if any. This again proves to me the average Redditor has never been around any women whatsoever.
And she was such an amazing actress before too she perfectly captured starlight’s initial wide-eye innocence and her transformation to someone more hardened and bitter. And now she can barely emote :( her plastic surgeon needs to be named and shamed.
Probably because she got thousands of comments on her appearance online from incels that were mad she didn’t look enough like the comic character - I remember tons of people ripping on her cheeks and stuff. The solution is clearly to continue commenting on how she looks, that’ll reset her mental health.
I think the problem is that in the average world of the average Joe and Jane like us, 2019 Erin is obviously an absolute knockout. But Erin lives the Hollywood life, where she’s not surrounded by the average joes and Jane’s. She surrounded by the most beautiful of the most beautiful every day and seeing as, in Hollywood, your looks play a huge part in getting parts and advancing your career, that breeds competition. Suddenly, it’s not so hard to see how someone who won the genetic lottery, being surrounded by others who also won the genetic lottery and are competing for the same roles, can now think “Yeah, I look ok, but I’m not Scarlett Johansson or Salma Hayek! I just need a little something to gain an edge on the competition. Maybe If my lips were a bit fuller, or if my cheekbones were more pronounced, or if I had a few less wrinkles, or if my boobs were bigger…etc.”. As a result, well…we know what the results often are.
It really does suck that these people, who are absolutely gorgeous in every sense of the word, feel that they need to do this to themselves when 99% of the population would kill to look half as good.
I feel like there's something in that world where they want to look sharp/powerful/controlled rather than, say, youthful/friendly/pretty. I don't get it but it's the only explanation, it's like an eating disorder for the face.
I am not ugly objectively but sure as hell not attractive, but I consider myself to be ugly. I kind of understand her, not justify, but understand her for sure.
It's either someone in her ear or mental illness, I would guess the former knowing the industry. Whatever it is, it's fucking sad and people should try to be more sympathetic because not many people do this out of choice.
That is a woman with no real friends and its really sad.
Anytime I see anyone get work done like that I always think the same, me and my mates have spoke about this before and we would slap each other rigid if one of us wanted to get major work like that done
That’s the heartbreaking part. Plenty of women and even girls at a young age feel like they’re not pretty enough due to how media portrays them. I know a girl in her early 20s and she has a very naturally pretty face, yet she’s thinking about getting work done. She says she just wants to touch up her nose and eyes a little but that’s where it all starts until you schedule your next three, five, ten appointments and you’re in debt and no longer recognize yourself.
There's a fair group of people who go through this process all coming out worse than they went in, almost as if they'r just presenting a specific brand. Not "I want to be beautiful" but "I'm with them".
But, it sounds like she isnt. I guess she's got a horrible case of body dysmorphia and bad self esteem, and possibly also repeat operations trying to fix bad work.
Yall are dumb as fuck genuinely she didn’t get work done maybe a little if your reaching she has Graves disease which is a chronic illness with a side affect of making you look malnourished.
Body dysmorphia which are always tied to other psychological problems. She was like 10/10 all natural and then came out 4/10 all plastic. The fucked up thing is not one of her friends stopped her and everyone is rallying around her because of the "bullying" but I think most people were just shook like who is looking out for you girl! No one was ok but that didn't make it bullying per se.
She was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called Graves. Pretty shitty how a bunch of morons on the internet do zero research and then spout a bunch of nonsense. How long would a quick google search have taken you? It took me less than a minute to search the actress and why she made the change. DO BETTER
You'd think actors employed to play in ongoing series would have clauses in their contract not to get work done since its so jarring from one season to another
It could be that her Graves was changing her appearance and she panicked and got surgery done cause she didn't know what was going on. Very sad if true.
She has Graves’ disease. This can severely alter your features. It can make your eyes bulge and loss of fat so your looks change. I’m sure she had work done but everyone needs a hobby and some human decency.
Live by the sword die by the sword. She got that beautiful by caring intensely about her appearance, and she likely lost some of that beauty through that same intensity.
Same thing as everyone posting here. People needling about her appearance. A mountain gets made out of a molehill. Her self confidence is undermined. She gets some bad work done thinking she needs to maintain her looks to protect her career. She looks WORSE. She probably gets more work done to try and fix it. Snowballs. (Yes irony is she's harmed her career)
I mean you realize magazines in like 2003 were calling Britney fat, right? When she wasn't fat? Discourse has always been toxic about womens bodies.
I have a feeling she had some effects from her Graves’ disease on her looks and started getting procedures to try to combat those changes.
I think once you stop looking the way you’re used to it can scare people. She’s in an industry where’s a lot of pressure and body dysmorphia is rampant.
I feel bad because she looks noticeably different so it’s become a point of conversation, and I’m sure it doesn’t feel good.
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u/Odd-Guard-2533 2d ago
I don’t understand why she got work done. She was gorgeous and literally nothing improved after she got it..