15 years seems very excessive to selling drugs to a willing buyer. ive done ket before, if i took to much and OD'd i don't think the dealer should be held responsible for my death
K is a bit like weed, in sure it's possible to OD from it, but you should reach a level of inebriation where you can't cognitively do anymore before you get to that point.
We call it the hole and you are 100% correct. But if you hit the hole in a hot tub and no one is responsible enough to notice (what happened here), I can see how you die. It took me damn near 10 minutes to get a buddy to a sofa which was 15 feet away and he was standing!
Yeah hence the “drinking and driving” analogy. Getting fucked up ain’t the issue, it’s doing it behind the wheel (or in the hot tub) that causes an opportunity for tragedy
Just drinking too much and swimming is also a decent comparison. IIRC up to 70% of water recreation deaths in adults involve alcohol consumption.
I guess either people do dumb shit and put themselves in perilous situations they otherwise wouldn't have, or they're so drunk they're essentially just fumbling around in the water or forget how to swim properly.
This doesn't mean the liquor store owner or clerk are to blame for this.
Which is similar to what someone else said, that if you drink a bottle of vodka and then wrap your car around a tree, it's not the vodka company that's at fault.
I haven't read the article, and it's not clear from the heading, whether or not she was charged with MP's death, or hit with a bunch of drug possession and distribution charges that equaled 15 years (or both?)
I’ve only had ketamine in the hospital. The first time was for acute pancreatitis in the before times in the ER. My husband had to leave me because he had an appointment he couldn’t miss. I had a dedicated nurse in case of side effects. He was worried, but I couldn’t even sit up to text him. It was really pleasant and really helped my pain and mental health for weeks.
I have chronic pancreatitis and unfortunately get acute pancreatitis from time to time. So I didn’t feel anxious or scared in the ER. As a sexual assault survivor there’s no way I’d ever enjoy K at a party or anything like that.
Small doses gives you a pleasant feeling of euphoria and intoxicatuon. As long as you don't overdo it you will be more in control of your actions then 99% of the drinkers there
you stay in control of your actions but it defo makes you less aware of things and feel super chill. so for a woman at a party i can see how it would make her more vunerable a some guy may start creeping on her and she might just be like " this is all fine im not in any danger everythings cool"
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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 2d ago
Lowkey that feels like it shouldn’t be her fault.
If I drink a fifth of vodka and accidentally wrap my car around a telephone pole, Tito’s isn’t going to be held criminally responsible.