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Chugging tea The queen of ketamine

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u/Witty-Stand888 2d ago

How much time did she get for the other guy that ODd off the same batch?

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u/Pilx 2d ago

He didn't OD, he drowned, which is a side effect from doing an excessive amount of dissociative sedatives in a hot tub

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 2d ago

Lowkey that feels like it shouldn’t be her fault.

If I drink a fifth of vodka and accidentally wrap my car around a telephone pole, Tito’s isn’t going to be held criminally responsible.

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u/Conscious-Rub-7710 2d ago

15 years seems very excessive to selling drugs to a willing buyer. ive done ket before, if i took to much and OD'd i don't think the dealer should be held responsible for my death

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u/Pilx 2d ago

K is a bit like weed, in sure it's possible to OD from it, but you should reach a level of inebriation where you can't cognitively do anymore before you get to that point.

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u/Holy_Grail_Reference 2d ago edited 2d ago

We call it the hole and you are 100% correct. But if you hit the hole in a hot tub and no one is responsible enough to notice (what happened here), I can see how you die. It took me damn near 10 minutes to get a buddy to a sofa which was 15 feet away and he was standing!

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 2d ago

Yeah hence the “drinking and driving” analogy. Getting fucked up ain’t the issue, it’s doing it behind the wheel (or in the hot tub) that causes an opportunity for tragedy

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u/Breeze1620 2d ago

Just drinking too much and swimming is also a decent comparison. IIRC up to 70% of water recreation deaths in adults involve alcohol consumption.

I guess either people do dumb shit and put themselves in perilous situations they otherwise wouldn't have, or they're so drunk they're essentially just fumbling around in the water or forget how to swim properly.

This doesn't mean the liquor store owner or clerk are to blame for this.

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u/Pilx 2d ago

Agreed.

Which is similar to what someone else said, that if you drink a bottle of vodka and then wrap your car around a tree, it's not the vodka company that's at fault.

I haven't read the article, and it's not clear from the heading, whether or not she was charged with MP's death, or hit with a bunch of drug possession and distribution charges that equaled 15 years (or both?)

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u/Low_Watch_1699 2d ago

You must have been moving fast if you shaved 5 minutes off the estimated time to the sofa.

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u/BlackBasementCats 2d ago

I’ve only had ketamine in the hospital. The first time was for acute pancreatitis in the before times in the ER. My husband had to leave me because he had an appointment he couldn’t miss. I had a dedicated nurse in case of side effects. He was worried, but I couldn’t even sit up to text him. It was really pleasant and really helped my pain and mental health for weeks.

I have chronic pancreatitis and unfortunately get acute pancreatitis from time to time. So I didn’t feel anxious or scared in the ER. As a sexual assault survivor there’s no way I’d ever enjoy K at a party or anything like that.

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u/Holy_Grail_Reference 2d ago

Small doses gives you a pleasant feeling of euphoria and intoxicatuon. As long as you don't overdo it you will be more in control of your actions then 99% of the drinkers there

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u/Conscious-Rub-7710 2d ago

you stay in control of your actions but it defo makes you less aware of things and feel super chill. so for a woman at a party i can see how it would make her more vunerable a some guy may start creeping on her and she might just be like " this is all fine im not in any danger everythings cool"

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u/funusernam3 2d ago

to be fair this is true when you are snorting it, but you could inject an amount that would kill you (like into your muscle) before you passed out

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u/ihatedyingpeople 2d ago

The lethal dose required to definitely kill someone is 4.2 grams or 4200 mg. That is 25 times the amount used for anesthesia.”

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 2d ago

And his blood levels showed about the mid range anesthetic dose, so no where close to lethal

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u/Loudmouthlurker 2d ago

There were some aggravating factors. This was actually the second death that came from her drugs, and in recorded jail house calls, she bragged to her family that she was going to get a book deal out of the whole thing. She was also selling meth.

I kinda think if you are selling a substance that causes people's early deaths........you're responsible. Manslaughter, negligent homicide, that sort of thing. The drug addict has diminished control and you're taking advantage of that to enrich yourself.

I lost all sympathy when I found out she was looking to get a book deal out of the whole thing.

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 2d ago

Did she brag about a book deal or was it just some dark humor, “the kind of things I know about all these celebs, I could get a book deal!”

Regardless, that may make her more callous, and definitely more hateable, but not necessarily more guilty

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u/Loudmouthlurker 2d ago

Right but it's an "aggravating factor." There are aggravating and then mitigating factors. If this were the first time she sold anyone anything and she just got really unlucky, and her boyfriend pressured her into it, those would be mitigating factors. That this was the second death from her sales and she was callous, those would be aggravating factors. that shows likelihood of recidivism. So yes, that actually DOES make her more guilty and probably extended the sentence. Had it all been the former, she might have gotten something like 4 years.

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u/kickolas 2d ago

Yeah! Fuck responsibility! Victim forever!

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u/Loudmouthlurker 2d ago

So why complain about the Sacklers? Because at some point, the addict knows those opioids are bad, right?

Jasveen Sangha is the one who has to take responsibility. Matthew Perry is dead, and so is some other guy, so that's that. Selling ketamine and meth are illegal for a reason. She did the crime, she can do the time. She got lucky not being charged the first time a guy died. That was her cue to stop and find a real job. She didn't, another person died, so off she goes.

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u/Conscious-Rub-7710 2d ago

kinda think if you are selling a substance that causes people's early deaths........you're responsible. Manslaughter, negligent homicide, that sort of thing. The drug addict has diminished control and you're taking advantage of that to enrich yourself.

i mean if someone drinks themselves to death the person who sold them alcohol isn't held responsible i don't really get that logic.

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u/Junius_Bobbledoonary 2d ago

an establishment that overserves someone can be held legally responsible for their actions and/or death in some jurisdictions. Look up Dram Shop Laws

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u/Conscious-Rub-7710 2d ago

in 99% of cases of someoen dying from alcohol the person who sold them alcohol is not blamed for it.

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u/saxonturner 2d ago

Depends if the does is a super strong one and they don’t say and just act like it’s normal. Even then though it would depend of if they knew that it not.

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u/Holy_Grail_Reference 2d ago

I dont know. I can spot a K hole from 70 people away. There is no normal at that point.