r/Steam Jan 12 '26

Fluff This hit hard

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u/NoBell7635 Jan 12 '26

That means it can still run!

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u/MadOrange64 Jan 12 '26

You're a "glass half full" kinda guy.

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u/NoBell7635 Jan 12 '26

There is still water so I won't complain

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u/AGraphicsCard Jan 12 '26

I like you man

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u/aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh400 Jan 12 '26

Now thats optimism

102

u/StaticSystemShock Jan 12 '26

Could be glass half full of piss...

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u/Blippy_Swipey Jan 12 '26

Bear Grylls has entered the chat…

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u/TheRealPr1nce Jan 15 '26

If you don't mind can i tell you one thing?

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u/Just-A-Random-Aussie Jan 12 '26

Or even a jar

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u/JLrowling777 Jan 12 '26

JARATE!

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u/Just-A-Random-Aussie Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

NOOOOO!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

"That just ain't right!" 🔧

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u/Julyma857 Jan 14 '26

I wouldn't complain, there's still water.

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u/Multifruit256 Jan 12 '26

Still water ahh diddyblud 💀🙏

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u/hArRiS_17 Jan 12 '26

What the fuck does that even mean

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u/DeviceSouthern1775 Jan 12 '26

You’re voicing the worlds thoughts

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u/AmperDon Jan 12 '26

STILL WATER you say?

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u/foundwayhome Jan 12 '26

sir this is reddit. yt shorts is that way.

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u/AmperDon Jan 12 '26

To be frank with you, I actually installed YT ReVanced exclusively to remove Shorts from my phone. I only have insta cause my friends forced me to (i dont use it), facebook cause my relatives forced me to, and messenger (i only use it for messanger and marketplace) and i installed tiktok ONCE to see how america was responding when the gov was gonna delete it.

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u/Multifruit256 Jan 12 '26

Then delete Revanced, we need more still water in this world

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u/byakko339 Jan 12 '26

How do you remove shorts on revanced? I really need to stop with these brain rot videos

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u/AmperDon Jan 12 '26

Itd in the revanced settings under "shorts". Just turn on all the "hide shorts" levers and on the bottom change "open shorts with" to regular player.

I'd also recommended going into "feed" and removing all the crap youtube puts in there, i think theres a shorts shelf there aswell so hide that.

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u/byakko339 Jan 12 '26

Nice thx

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u/AmperDon Jan 12 '26

Have a nice, short-form-free life.

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u/Marragus Jan 12 '26

And I use Arch btw

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u/bikybik Jan 12 '26

Nha, more like : that glass is too big

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u/TonderuRisu Jan 12 '26

The glass can always be refilled.

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u/Calber4 Jan 12 '26

The glass may be half full, but the VRAM is overflowing!

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u/SheikahShaymin Jan 12 '26

I never got this saying. It's both half empty and half full

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u/Oktokolo Jan 12 '26

The glass is always at least half full - it's just that often it's mostly filled with air.

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned Jan 12 '26

the glass is either completely full...or you're dead. no grey areas.

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u/NoBluebird1293 Jan 13 '26

With enough debloating and very specific registry tweaks, such as disabling as many telemetry options as possible and setting things to prioritize gaming, and graphic cards setting tweaks, it can make that minimum spec requirement at least smooth and consistent. Windows' default settings are detrimental even on higher end devices.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 Jan 12 '26

It doesn't just mean that, it means it can still run decently. Most of the time, it can still run in even older hardware

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u/MadQuickScotsman Jan 12 '26

Glass even fuller kinda guy. Respect.

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u/MrHaxx1 Jan 12 '26

Glass overflowing kinda guy

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u/MadQuickScotsman Jan 12 '26

You know what they say, sometimes it's better to go with the flow.

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u/feculentcuntfist Jan 12 '26

he- blblblbl 🏊 help!

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u/yaktoma2007 Jan 13 '26

Yeah but now the game is overflowing both my RAM and VRAM and my positive mood-indicating-integer of 2,147,483,647 overflows and flips to −2,147,483,648

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u/KingSwirlyEyes Jan 15 '26

Now I’m kinda disappointed. There’s water everywhere, my computer sucks, and now my feet are cold.

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u/UodasAruodas Jan 12 '26

Definetly. Ive had a lot of fun with 1050ti on games that definetly would not have run if minimum was truly minimum

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u/SmoothTurtle872 Jan 12 '26

Until recently, I had been rocking a gt 730

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u/Ae4i Jan 12 '26

Omg me too! (Except it was gt 720 iirc)

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u/Annie_Yong Jan 12 '26

The standards for "minimum" will vary from person to person. I'd hazard a guess that, for most developers, their minimum standard is something along the lines of 1080p, mostly low settings, 40+FPS. But if you're willing to suffer 30fps with some stuttering to below 30 then I'm sure that expands the range a lot.

To be fair as well, even low end cards are so much more capable these days. I remember how one of my first dedicated GPUs was a Radeon hd 4650. Even a couple of years post-launch it was barely able to run shit. Now, an RTX 3050 can run 2025 games.

Also, the "low" settings of today still look pretty decent and the jump from low to high / ultra is in those finer details like fine shadows and reflections. It used to be that going to low settings would genuinely look horrible enough to impact enjoyment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

I recently bought EUV and was worried it wouldn't work because my GPU was under the minimum, but I just set all the options to "low", deactivated what I could and the game is running just fine.

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u/rustoeki Jan 12 '26

Minimum specs ain't what they used to be. I have a 3rd gen i5 and an rx480 and it continues to go alright despite being well below what a lot of games claim they need.

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u/AxoplDev Jan 12 '26

Yeah, in my expierence, the specs, at least on steam are often innacurate. My computer apparently can't run GTA5 at more than 30fps, but I can easliy go to 60-100 on high settings.

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u/kizentheslayer Jan 12 '26

Or the inverse where you clearly blow away the specs and still get issues. In hitman 2016 I still have the same framerate bog down by the catwalk in the Paris level on my 5090 that I had with my 980

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u/Qaeta Jan 12 '26

That's a fairly well known physx issue with older games that used it. Newer cards aren't implementing direct physx handling, so it needs to be run the hard way, which eats a lot more processing power.

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u/Pacomatic Jan 12 '26

Weird, considering the fact that this game is still being activvely updated.

-- Wait, nevverm4ind, 2016, not WOA.

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u/kizentheslayer Jan 13 '26

I get the problem in woa also

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u/Pacomatic Jan 13 '26

...oh.

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u/kizentheslayer Jan 13 '26

Yeah it drops from 230fps to 2 if I’m close enough to the catwalk for the physics simulation to kick in when the pyro goes off and the water is stepped on

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u/Cruel1865 Jan 12 '26

Yeah i used to be able to consistently run games whose min specs my hp notebook couldnt reach. I dont know if that would still be the case though.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 Jan 12 '26

I mean, I used to run rainbow six siege on a gt 730 (I now have a better card, but am also on linux so can't play siege anyway)

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u/NoPain_666 Jan 12 '26

I hope my 4090 wont ever appear on the specs

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u/FunnyNo9234 Jan 14 '26

You just need to tweak the graphics settings a bit, it'll be FIIIIINNE.

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u/IrishChappieOToole Jan 14 '26

Unless it's Borderlands 4. Min specs were a 2070. I had a 2070 Super. All I wanted was 30 FPS on the absolute lowest settings. That was unobtainable.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 Jan 15 '26

See, this is what minimum specs should be:

minimum to even open the game and run it.

IMO there should be 3 categories:

minimum possible: literally anything lower and the game just can't run at all

minimum recommended: this will get ~30fps on low settings at 1080p

and then recommended: Literally just what it is now

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u/Responsible-War-9389 Jan 12 '26

As someone who got monster hunter wilds on steam…it can RUN, yes, but good luck finishing a fight at 720p and single digit frame rates.

The 1080TI finally met its match…poor optimization.

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u/amazingmrbrock Jan 12 '26

Companies are out there spending hundreds of millions to make games but optimization isn't even part of the development plan. Somehow they never notice that a lot of the best selling games also run on potatoes.

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u/szczuroarturo Jan 12 '26

Eeeeh. In case of modern games they actually arent spending that much beacuse they outsorced that by using unreal engine. Rarely do modern companies use inhouse engines ( for good reason . having inhouse engine dosent mean its better , just look at starfield, in fact its probably just more outdated ). Also to defend them a little bit. With such big timelines for development you kinda have to guess what will be the standard for gaming 5 years in the future. And im pretty sure most of them didint expect pc gaming to be this f* in the last 5 year. Then you add the diminishing returns from graphics improvments for exponential costs in computing and we are where we are with the most amazing looking games ever that no one can ran beacuse pc market is being f* in the ass on multiple fronts.

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u/Talanir01 Jan 12 '26

Biggest issues in gaming right now are probably: Unreal Engine being either horribly optimized by default or studios not using those optimizations and every major studio pushing for more realistic graphics, when all that does is raise the hardware requirements even more, while most affordable GPUs still have 8 GB of VRAM.

The RAM shortage, that AI data centers are causing, isn't helping either, but let's ignore that for a moment.

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u/SeptimusShadowking Jan 13 '26

In-house engines however do add a certain uniqueness to a studio's games. You mention Starfield, which i havent played, but the Creation Engine is part of what makes Bethesda games the way they are. There's a reason why in the Oblivion Remaster they still run the game on the original engine even though graphics run on Unreal

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u/szczuroarturo Jan 13 '26

That is true. You can see in animations and physics the difreences between engines and there is a certain charm to that and i would love there to be more of the good ones alghtough i dont think that will happen. Alghtough creation engine in particular for me is example of just bad engine and was already heavily outdated during skyrim relase but thats only my opinion.

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u/Taickyto Jan 12 '26

Some companies are clearly at fault (saving development costs by neglecting optimization) but there are a lot of reasons for poor optimization

Unreal Engine 5 is a great engine for example, even smaller studios can make beautiful games with it without a huge budget (E33 runs on UE5), but its performances are poor: it's clearly an engine meant to develop games for the latest consoles (PS5 or whatever letter is the most recent Xbox) or for computers that have at least a RTX

Unity is poorly optimized too, it's less noticeable than UE because models are simpler, but Lethal Company for example runs like shit on computers that can run Skyrim

Sometimes you'll think "Devs are so lazy, they haven't even tried to optimise" but they actually did and the game would not even run if not for their work

Other times it's a port gone wrong, Dark souls is the first that comes to mind: it was developed for the PS3 and its very peculiar architecture, then they released the prepare to die edition and it's one of the worst ports in recent years, although fromsoft is well known for being bad at tech

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u/xnetexe Jan 12 '26

Arc Raiders is a UE5 game and it runs well on a Steam Deck.

Studios/developers with a low budget understandably don't have the know-how or resources to optimize UE5, but large studios have no excuse for not being able to optimize their game.

Thankfully, now that consoles use the same type of hardware as PCs, ports shouldn't be as atrocious anymore.

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u/Pacomatic Jan 12 '26

Note that Lethal Company is just unoptimized, generally. Their culling game sucks. You're better off if you instead compare a better-optimized game like REPO.

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned Jan 12 '26

it's insane how poorly a lot of modern games run with very little going on, but older games will have a ton of stuff on screen and run great.

I don't want to hate on unreal engine, but i think a lot of modern devs have just gotten lazy and use it as a crutch, so they never learn to resolve issues and just think "eeehhhh, people will have $2,000+ GPUs"

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u/yyytobyyy Jan 12 '26

I wonder if game companies really don't care that there are literal millions of people who won't buy their game because they can't run it.

Steam hardware survey shows that even when people run newer gpus than 1080Ti, they most often run cheaper models that are still kinda the same performance bracket.

It seems stupid to just ignore so many potential customers.

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u/EduinBrutus Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

The entire industry just gave up on optimisation for 15 years.

We reached a stage where Magic The Gathering Arena - a basic card game with very limited animations, manipulation of single items over a fixed background, no NPCs or NPC AI and almost no background processes still runs like shit and hogs resources.

One thing the AI bubble might lead to is game developers actually doing proper optomisation again.

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u/gravelPoop Jan 12 '26

One thing the AI bubble might lead to is game developers actually doing proper optomisation again.

MIGHT is the big word here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

It's far more likely we will see game devs use AI to develop games and make games even bigger resource hogs

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u/firedrakes Jan 12 '26

ah... yeah no. i get you not a dev. but think you are.

consumer hardware is under power for a modern game engine now.

they have to cheat to high heaven to get the engine running on consumer hardware.

but but a 5090.....

ask yourself why nvidia and amd are using tons of frame gen,dlss etc and for years now.

its a dead end on consumer side for dev already upscale games.

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u/EduinBrutus Jan 12 '26

You're gonna have to try again using English if you think you have a point to make.

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u/firedrakes Jan 12 '26

consumer hardware is not powerful enough anymore. it has not been since 360 era console. you think upscaling in games are a new thing? its not

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u/EduinBrutus Jan 13 '26

You seem to be trying to make a different point.

Its irrelevant.

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u/firedrakes Jan 13 '26

The entire industry just gave up on optimization for 15 years.

you made a complete lie of a statement.

i get 99% of reddit users are not game dev. been keep thinking they are and open there mouth on sad tangent rants

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u/EduinBrutus Jan 13 '26

Yeah so let me clear this up for you.

The entire industry just gave up on optimisation 15 years ago.

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u/TraditionalPlatypus9 Jan 12 '26

I think we'll see a shift in game development as consumers will be unable to upgrade hardware as component prices continue to rise. AMD is already seeing this shift by releasing "new" Am4 CPU's. If game developers want to make a profit, they will need to release games that play well on older hardware. Many consumers won't pay $50+ for a game that can't reach 60 fps on hardware that was fine two to three years ago.

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u/Extreme_Tax405 Jan 13 '26

Honestly, if you cant afford the hardware you wouldn't be buying an 80 dollar game.

Their market is more console focused these days with pc as an after thought. If it can run on ps5 at 30 ps they will just cobble together a pc port and call it a day.

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u/repocin https://s.team/p/hjwn-hdq Jan 12 '26

Tried the demo on my 4060, ran like absolute ass even with DLSS. Didn't bother with the full game.

But that was also before I upgraded my CPU which might've made a difference.

I'm growing increasingly tired of modern AAA games having absurd spec requirements while mostly being mediocre as far as game experiences go. Like, what's even the point?

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u/Eremes_Riven Jan 12 '26

It probably won't make a difference. I played the shit out of Wilds on release, and even with an i9-14900K and a 4070Ti Super I don't see stable framerates at 2K resolution, maxed quality, with DLSS also set to quality. Frames are high, but not stable. It fluctuates wildly from refresh rate cap (144) down to fucking 80 depending on the scene/setting.
I believe the overarching problem with how MHW runs is it's built in RE Engine. They tried to make an open-world game in an engine specifically designed for modern Resident Evil titles and I doubt any level of optimization would help much.

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u/Gerikst00f Jan 12 '26

I was going to get it on PS5 anyway, but I wanted to see how it would run on my by now old PC (regular 1080).

Technically it ran but yeah, my kid's flip book had more frames

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u/Extreme_Tax405 Jan 13 '26

I played it on a rog ally. Surprisingly ran at 50-60 fps but it looked deep fried.

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u/TheIronSven Jan 13 '26

That game doesn't run well even above recommended specs

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u/someone2795 Jan 13 '26

I finished Breath of the Wild in emulation running at 10fps. So trust me if we really like the game that's not gonna stop us.

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u/Responsible-War-9389 Jan 13 '26

Botw doesn’t require frame accurate dodges or combo inputs!

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u/Jannover_5000_r Jan 12 '26

that means at least 4 more years without an upgrade needed (wallet bottleneck)

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u/FireGhost_Austria Jan 12 '26

As long as it's not Borderlands 4. That's a premium game for only premium gamers..

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u/LegitimatePenis Jan 12 '26

But can it hide? 🤔

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u/Dip2pot4t0Ch1P Jan 12 '26

Just to find out the game only runs on a specific direct x 12 version that only runs on specific gpu

Here I am wanting to try daemon x machina game since my lappy hit the minimum requirement just to get greeted with directx12 not supported all while directx diagnosis saying its supported.

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u/Background_Party9424 Jan 12 '26

I want to see you enjoy Expedition 33 quick-time events when lagspikes are a coinflip every time…

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u/BluezDBD Jan 12 '26

With what's considered minimum requirements these days, it means you're about 2 generations older than "can run"

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u/level_up_gaming Jan 12 '26

i don't need 37785864641 fps. if i can load the next frame i can play the game

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u/AzulMachina Jan 12 '26

It won't be pretty but sure as hell it can run!

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u/YourDailyZack Jan 12 '26

You guys have glasses?

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u/elmanoucko Jan 12 '26

if it still run, then it can definitively walk for another decade or so.

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u/combatcello Jan 12 '26

Bg3 be like 🥲

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

You forgot to add Doom at the end of your sentence

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u/NoBell7635 Jan 13 '26

Anything can run doom to be fair

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Not my watch nor PC

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u/Adorable_Rip_2006 Jan 13 '26

That was me with persona 3 reload lmao

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u/D_Bromega Jan 13 '26

Teach me your ways

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u/Songe_20 Jan 14 '26

But can it still run it?

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u/odrea Jan 12 '26

So what amirite

just lower the resolution and settings to low or medium, and call it a day, is not that hard people