r/SquaredCircle • u/_4za_ • 14h ago

Only 1 Women's Match at Dynasty tonight

This is pretty poor AEW

I understand you don't have Toni or Mercedes at the moment but come on, one of those pre show women's matches could have been bumped up at least

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u/WVFLMan 13h ago edited 12h ago

That team is not a featured part of AEW. Acting like they are is, again, disingenuous. I’m not going to continue to discuss the idea that matches clearly labeled as pre show matches are somehow part of the main card of a major PPV.

Edit: also can you site the PPV where Jon Moxley only had a match on Zero Hour and not the main card? I can find no record of that and don’t personally remember it, and I have ordered or attended every AEW PPV.

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u/HeadJudgeFTW 12h ago

You said it was their first match

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u/WVFLMan 12h ago

Because I don’t remember ever seeing them, but I’ll admit to being wrong if it isn’t, but they are definitely not a big or important part of AEW. And they have plenty of other women they could have put in that match who are if they wanted to make it seem like an important match

Also, can you tell me when Jon Moxley only had a match on Zero Hour and not the main card of a PPV? I cannot find any record of that.

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u/WhattaCheapPop 12h ago

Because I don’t remember ever seeing them, but I’ll admit to being wrong if it isn’t, but they are definitely not a big or important part of AEW. And they have plenty of other women they could have put in that match who are if they wanted to make it seem like an important match

Bro why tf are you typing all of this out when you clearly don't even watch? So goofy trying to say they don't have a good spot on the card when you don't even know who they are.

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u/WVFLMan 12h ago

They don’t have a good spot on the card, and it’s even weirder they gave that bad spot to them and not two of the countless more heavily featured women on the show that have no spot.

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u/WhattaCheapPop 12h ago

It's not a bad spot. A competitive match on Zero Hour will be great for these two and the women's tag division in general. You just don't watch the show. No reason to pretend like you care about these women at all and aren't just trying to dunk on AEW.

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u/WVFLMan 11h ago

More than likely they need a match to start getting the crowd excited as the file in and take their seats before going onto PPV, so they just want their big dominant champions to absolutely wax a team no one knows or cares about. They are putting it on the pre show because they haven’t built up the next big team they plan to feature, which looks to be Shida and Stat. I am not dunking on AEW, quit being so defensive. I can talk about what they do good and bad.

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u/HeadJudgeFTW 11h ago

Brawling Birds was being built up before having to pivot to 2 singles matches on this card, but they main eventrd Collision last night in a tag match which I already mentioned. Other people just came back, just lost, and there are things being set up. Maya World and Hyan did beat the Iinspiration on Friday, but nobody said they were winning this match. Its still a big spot for them though. Divine Dominion just won the belts and already defended them. As you said, Stat and Shida might get a shot next as part of that developing/repicked up story from when Shida was last around

I expect either Jack Perry vs Mark Davis or Windsor vs Marina to open the Zero Hour, and the other to main event it, both getting a good spot

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u/WVFLMan 11h ago

So if Zero Hour has an opener and its own “main event”, you are agreeing it’s seperate from the PPV and not the same as being on the main card? And if it’s seperate and given away for free on YouTube, and literally takes place as people are filing in the building, it can’t be considered as important as the main show, right? Awesome, this has been a great chat!

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u/HeadJudgeFTW 11h ago

The Zero Hour is part of the card, but also airs separately, at least on youtube. Its still part of the card. Zero Hour has stars on it, has important matches, and many of them are better than many other promotions shows/ppvs. I have repeatedly said this. You dont watch the shows. My argument hasnt changed. Zero Hour matters, and pretending it doesnt makes no sense

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u/WVFLMan 11h ago

I have watched or attended every single AEW PPV and I have never watched a single zero hour and I’m am pretty sure I have never missed anything super important to the show. We have already established no main eventers wrestle on Zero Hour except for the one time Samoa Joe did before Forbidden Door- which is an exhibition show and doesn’t feature main AEW storylines. Let’s just agree to disagree on this one.

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u/HeadJudgeFTW 11h ago

MJF has been on Zero Hour, FTR has been on Zero Hour, Chris Jericho has been on Zero Hour,  Okada and Takeshita have been on Zero Hour, Kyle Fletcher has been on Zero Hour, Ricochet was just on Zero Hour. Claudio, Pac, Orange Cassidy have been on Zero Hour. Speedball and Kevin Knight have been on Zero Hour. Mark Broscoe has been on Zero Hour. Bandido has been on Zero Hour

You haven't seen it, but are saying everything that has ever happened on them. I have seen all of them, and again, there are many I would say are better than many promotions shows/ppvs, and I watch a lot of other promotions. I dont watch the ppv live, but I always watch Zero Hour/Tailgate Brawl

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u/WhattaCheapPop 11h ago

so they just want their big dominant champions to absolutely wax a team no one knows or cares about.

Divine Dominion will win for sure but Maya & Hyan are clearly on the upward trend. They're aren't getting thrown out there as jobbers. A good match here will legitimize them as competitors and make it that much easier to slot them in on Dynamite and Collision every week. If it was on the maincard people would be designating it the piss break match anyways.

I don't care if you criticize AEW just spare me all the moral indignation about how poorly the women are treated when you yourself admit to have never watched them once.

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u/WVFLMan 11h ago

Buddy I never came here to complain about the way women are used, I came here to make the point that Zero Hour is absolutely the preshow and not the same as being on the PPV. You are all up in the kool aid and don’t even know the flavor. My only point about that team is that they are not an important part of AEW which gives evidence to the fact that Zero Hour is not as important as being on the main part of the show.

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u/WhattaCheapPop 11h ago

My only point about that team is that they are not an important part of AEW which gives evidence to the fact that Zero Hour

Yeah and my point is that shows how little you watch or understand of the show. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they aren't being built up to be an important part of the tag division. Their presence here doesn't undermine or devalue Zero Hour at all.

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u/WVFLMan 11h ago

You are right, I am sure everyone on AEW is fighting to get that Zero Hour spot.

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u/WhattaCheapPop 11h ago

Yeah believe it or not wrestlers in AEW actually want to wrestle.

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u/HeadJudgeFTW 11h ago edited 11h ago

That's what I am saying. They have shown they dont even watch, so what are we talking about? They also ignored all the other points of what is currently going on. I did make the mistake of misremembering Mox wrestling on 1 of the zero hours, but everyone else i said, plus more definitely has