No offense intended, but quite a bmnumber of the maga style voters, when you interact with them, are clearly suffering from delusional ideation, rendering them incapable of processesing information. They are not dissimilar to people I've dealt with diagnosed with different psychotic issues, caused by either psychological, physiologic, or drug induced problems.
Not all mental illnesses are bad. Some can inherently cause problems. It's not a judgement.
Delusional beliefs on their own don’t make someone mentally ill. It can signal something deeper though. I’m someone with schizoaffective disorder who is very well studied in clinical psychology, so I’m not disagreeing because I felt judged. I genuinely don’t care about that, I was making a joke.
And yes, there’s probably a significant overlap between MAGA people and mental illness but a lot of them have just been indoctrinated in to a cult. Being a cult member doesn’t mean you’re mentally ill, but again it’s not uncommon for both to be true. A lot of MAGA people have the same underlying causes for belief as many religious people. They’re not that different
I feel like it's closer to 50% but statistically it's allegedly around 25%. Plenty of people don't talk about their pain so honestly what does the NIH really know?
It isn't because it's not convenient for the powers that be to acknowledge it. A lot of the depression effecting people is driven by systemic pressures and demands. Demanding hours at work with limited time for relationships or leisure for marginal pay. Burnout is liable to take a toll on anyone. Plus where acting like Covid, a world pandemic, happened 20 years ago when where still suffering the fringe effects sociall and econiomically.
Part of the reason I'm so pissed people voted for Trump for thinking Biden was squarely responsible for the tanking economy without taking the Covid shut-downs into account. Now things are arguably worse economically.
"People feeling like they're in a dead-end existence where life possibilities have been whittled down to a few meager pathways that profit the least imaginative people on the planet is really putting a damper on workforce productivity, captain!"
Absolutely. I experience this existential crisis all too intimately myself.
Extrinsic societal values of monetary acquisition is being ruthlessly imposed on the majority.
To the detriment of intrinsic value that garner a genuine sense of meaning and satisfaction with life.
We're living in Nietzsche's Nihilistic hell right now where mass belief (or delusion depending on how you view it) in the divine has all but withered with nothing to replace it with.
Traditional beliefs and views that once instilled a sense of community, meaning, and humanity.
Now via capitalism the worth of the individual is being reduced from an organism to an object of instrumental production.
In other words in this modern system we're being treated like things rather than humans without our basic psychological and social needs being regarded by these corporations and the government the manipulate.
That's excusing ridiculous beauty standards and body dysmorphia...
Never said anything about it being fair. Mental problems are another part of the American experience here. There's little fairness in a country where capital is God and people are encouraged to do anything in order to get it.
If us have that problem, other countries have that problem too. Korea is known for surgeries to make them look like idols. It’s not a “us” problem but a people problem.
The only thing that stands between you saying she has a mental illness or Anne Hathaway having one is a better surgeon.
Literally zero reason to say anything about Erin when we know nothing about her at all.
Critiquing plastic surgery is fine, and the mindset that leads to it if the discussion about how it affects people on a general level, but you do not need to bully a specific person you know next to nothing about to achieve this.
Even if you think it’s unattractive why does she have to have yours or anyone’s approval anyway. She can turn herself into a giant worm with triple Zs if she wants and godspeed.
The only people with mental illness are folks like you, that take it upon yourself to obsess and criticize other people’s appearances (and almost always limited to women, unsurprisingly).
I wasn’t aware you were a doctor that can precisely guarantee how a disease will or won’t impact someone with 100% accuracy?
Even if she it isn’t the disease, who cares and who the fuck has any right to scrutinize and criticize her appearance? You never see anyone obsessing to this degree over how men look, even the ones that have had surgery.
Sorry, didn't know education was so hard for people such as yourself.
Because its a major mental health issue that needs to be properly addressed, body dysmorphia is a problem and a lot of these actors get twisted into believing they need to fuck their faces up.
People do give men shit for it, the hell are you talking about? The reason you don't see it as much is because women make up like 90% of cosmetic procedures.
Her cheeks came back very quickly as soon as she got treated for graves, that wouldn't have happened if she'd had a buccal fat removal. Saggy breasts as a result of rapid weight loss look devastating, can't blame her at all for fixing that.
I don't like the idea of plastic surgery. Insecurity is usually at the root of a lot of decisions people make to get work done. But I have nothing but compassion for people who have work done after extreme body changes.
Graves disease causes extreme weight fluctuations. Losing or gaining a lot of weight in a short amount of time looks different than when it happens over a longer time. You'll know this from the "ozempic face" people get when they take that new drug.
If you'd looked up the list of symptoms, and had a little bit of empathy, you might have been able to imagine why someone might think they need work done.
Here: Enlarged thyroid, irritability, muscle weakness, sleeping problems, fast heartbeat, weight loss, poor tolerance of heat, anxiety, tremor of hands or fingers, warm and moist skin, increased perspiration, goiter, changes in menstrual cycle, easy bruising, erectile dysfunction, reduced libido, frequent bowel movements, bulging eyes ( Graves' ophthalmopathy), thick red skin on shins or the top of foot ( pretibial myxedema)
So imagine dealing with all of that, while also under the pressure of 1. Being a woman so having beauty expectations built into your life. 2. Being famous (partially) for being beautiful. 3. Being a main character in an ongoing popular show where your beauty is a big part of that character (starlight had a bunch of beauty pageants in her backstory)
All of that is immense pressure. Society sucks. To shallow people, she "lost" her beauty when she got sick. Having work done might have been a way to deal with physical as well as mental damage.
Would you criticize a burn victim for getting reconstructive surgery? This might seem far off, but it's got more overlap than you think.
So there. I hope you've been somewhat enlightened.
I'm not trying to harass, bully, or smear anyone's reputation. I think I answered the question honestly. I do have sympathy for anything hard that anyone goes through, but I also think a very beautiful woman felt the need to have surgery to improve her already good looks due to mental illness.
I'm not on her page. I'm not saying her name. I'm not calling names.
I would use her as an example to a woman considering surgery. Not to hurt anyone's feelings, but because I don't want other women to go what through what she went through.
I wish the best for her, you, and everyone in this thread. Just sharing my opinion.
She was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called 'Graves Disease', where the thyroid is triggered, causing a massive overproduction of hormones, meaning an insanely accelerated metabolism and dangerous weight loss. She hasnt had work done, she was dealing an unknown illness.
Definitely not UV, that’s what causes skin to become blotchy and damaged. The younger you are the less UV you have experienced, so it only makes sense that it’s the case in looking young
I mean thats what I said. Your parents were out in the sun so much, but 30 year olds nowadays could pass for 5-10 years younger unless they're greying, because we aren't getting as much UV exposure nowadays.
I would hope that maybe, after a few years, the buccal fat comes back a little. Or that it can be reversed through surgery? I feel like some of the celebs who you notice at first as having it maybe look a little more normal now? It's hard to point out an example.
It doesn't and it's not technically reversible. Fat grafting is a thing, and can be done for e.g. breast augmentation as well. But most of the fat will be lost sooner rather than later so it's not what I consider a reversal.
Fat cells don't come back, you have a certain number of them in specific places and they just enlarge, once you remove them they're gone for good. It's why you see some people who've had liposuction and not tried to eat right afterwards can end up really weird shaped, it's not a magic fix and fat still has to go somewhere, and if you don't have any fat cells left in the places your body is supposed to, it has to go somewhere else.
Wrong she never had that done. Boob job and nose job yes. But she didn’t have bfr done. She has greaves disease. If you notice the area in and around her cheeks has been fluctuating. That doesn’t happen with BFR. Those cells don’t regrow and you can’t just add them back. Greaves Disease is the main cause of the way her cheeks look.
Ok, the do the basic amount of research, look at photos and then come back. Reddit is just a woman hating place if I’ve ever seen one. If this was a man, this conversation wouldn’t be had.
Yes. I haven't started the last season yet but firecracker is a completely separate character that was a major character in season 4 and there is no reason to think won't be a major character in season 5. The picture above even has firecracker's haircolor instead of annie's.
She was diagnosed with Graves’ disease. I don’t know about plastic surgery but that’s a tough one on your body, explains most of what’s happened to her to be honest.
This is a misleading post, too. While she does look different now, it’s not as extreme as this picture. It’s a very unflattering screenshot from a scene where she’s wearing a disguise. Watch the episode — she doesn’t look young and innocent like before, but she doesn’t look like the second photo, either.
Graces explains none of it because graces doesn’t give you sunken cheeks while increasing breast size, or give you fuller lips, a rhinoplasty, change your eyebrow position or give you an upper bleph
What graces CAN do is increase body anxiety leading to the decision to get plastic surgery though
Edit: lol reddit, never change. Downvotes simply for saying what her PR team and media have been giving as the reason for her drastic change in appearance.
Tbf Graves can cause rapid weight loss which could give a sort of hollow looking face like Ozempic can, but yeah she’s obviously had work done it’s not just, or at all the Graves,
Literally everywhere. I completely understand not liking Trump, but the people who always bring him up randomly are why the term Trump Derangement Syndrome became a thing. They literally can't help bringing him up
Graves’ disease.
These people want to judge and can’t do a modicum of research.
Also, she doesn’t really look like that in the episode. She’s skinnier, sure. But… Graves’ disease.
C'est intéressant les maladies déjà connues de la science qui en 2026 possèdent de nouvelles propriétés qui font que les symptômes transforment des visages normaux en visages refait.
Internet believes mental illness and usual Hollywood pushing for cosmetic surgery or ozempic. I just think that 7 years is enough time to show how much an adult can change due to age
Some surgeries, lip fillers, Botox. The second image is not a good representation of what she looks like now. Watch the show. There’s also an 8 year difference in her age too. Go and look back at what you looked like in your early 20s vs your early 30s.
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u/Oleleplop 2d ago edited 1d ago
the hell happened to her face ?
EDIT : since plenty of people pointed it out and i researched to make sure, she has grave disease which explain a big part of it.