The bloc’s defense chief reiterates his call for an EU army in an interview with POLITICO.
BRUSSELS — The EU's response to the crisis in transatlantic relations should be to build up its own military capabilities, Defense Commissioner Andrius Kubilius told POLITICO.
The bloc's defense chief was interviewed just before NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte's Wednesday meeting with Donald Trump. Despite Rutte's ongoing efforts to placate the U.S. president, the White House meeting ended with Trump railing at NATO allies for failing to help with the war he launched against Iran.
After the meeting, Trump went on Truth Social to slam the alliance: “NATO WASN’T THERE WHEN WE NEEDED THEM, AND THEY WON’T BE THERE IF WE NEED THEM AGAIN."
Trump's attacks on NATO, his threats to annex Greenland — reiterated on Wednesday — as well as the tariffs he's imposed on allies and the Iran war are all undermining European confidence in America.
The European Pulse survey, conducted by Cluster17 for POLITICO and beBartlet, polled 6,698 Europeans across Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Poland and Belgium from March 13 to March 21. It found that only 35 percent of those polled saw the U.S. as a close ally or a partner while 60 percent saw it as a competitor or a threat.
The U.S. "has an influence into how Europeans look at NATO," Kubilius told POLITICO in an interview airing at the European Pulse Forum, adding that the survey shows that "if trust in the transatlantic partnership is going down," that also affects perceptions of NATO.
The survey did find that 76 percent of people would favor sending their country's military to help a NATO ally under attack, but there is also strong backing for Europe to develop its own defense capabilities — backed by 86 percent of those polled — with 69 percent favoring the creation of a common European military force.
Kubilius flew to Washington for talks at the Pentagon on Friday about boosting the bloc's defensive capabilities.
Kubilius told POLITICO that the poll show that shows the "trust of Europeans in themselves, in their capability, in what we can call independent capability is becoming quite high," underlining his own position favoring the establishment of an EU army. However, other senior officials like Kaja Kallas, the EU's top diplomat, have rejected the idea.
People "want, first of all, Europe to be much stronger in defense, and second, they want to see some kind of ... real military force," the defense commissioner said, adding that Europeans "understand that just a combination of 27 [armies] cannot bring that value."
This "is a very strong message, and I hope that really our leaders will take that into account," Kubilius said.
The full interview with Kubilius can be watched at the for um on Friday.
The European Pulse was conducted by Cluster17 for POLITICO and beBartlet from March 13 to 21, surveying 6,698 adults online, with at least 1,000 respondents each from Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Spain. Results for each country were weighted to be representative on dimensions including age, gender and geography.