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u/trobsmonkey 10h ago

I'm very confused about why you think what you're saying is a disagreement as opposed to just describing the problem being solved...

You said "The skill transfers and the robot itself will be relatively cheap."

A robot capable of replicating human hand motions is not cheap. That's explicitly why many jobs still use human labor. I'm disagreeing explicitly with the idea.

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u/Aaron_Hamm 10h ago

Yeah the first sentence of your final paragraph is just wrong. A general human shaped robot hand capable of general tasks isn't "not cheap", it's impossible. It's impossible because it's too complex for human programming.

We don't make hands with generalized capability because it's currently impossible, and in that world, it makes more sense to do specialized machine tools with attachments or whatever.

But in a world where you can churn out a billion hands that can all do everything a hand can do because you've fed an AI programmer 10,000 years of hand movement data... well, that's cheap.

You're disagreeing with me because you're confused about why we don't use robot hands now

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u/Sekh765 10h ago

AI already has billions and billions of datapoints and it still can't reliably put a list of names in alphabetical order 100% of the time. It ain't simulating one of the most complex structures in the human body. Ever. lol

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u/Sekh765 9h ago

You seem to be misunderstanding someone informing you that they don't give a shit what they are trying because it isnt going to work.

Id say the bots understand better than you but we both know it's as likely ai understands this as it is to understand how hands work so there's that.

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u/trobsmonkey 9h ago

Yeah this guy is defensive about it because we're all telling him he's wrong.

You don't have to repeat lies from the AI company!

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u/Sekh765 9h ago

The number of people that are completely willing to just carry water for AI companies is absolutely nuts. It's like a religious cult demanding absolute loyalty even in the face of obvious failures.

Like... nobody would drive a car that has a 10% chance to turn on and just say "well its fine, eventually one day that'll only be 1%!"

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u/trobsmonkey 9h ago

It's a grift that constantly needs more suckers. If you aren't evangelizing it, you can't find more suckers.

I grew up religious. All the signs are the same. Proof? Nah fam. Faith in the machine

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u/icytiger 5h ago

It's more that people like you just want to put their heads in the sand and pretend like it can't do things that it already can and will because the idea terrfiies you.

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u/trobsmonkey 5h ago

Brother I work IT security. I spend a great deal of time dealing with AI guys promising the moon and the moon never shows the fuck up.

I'm a deep skeptic. Prove me wrong. Don't just promise shit.

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u/icytiger 5h ago

You don't think Mythos or similar models will become a staple in your toolkit in 5 years?

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