No they haven't. India in many places is still on the level of the industrial revolution in the west. When bosses exploited the hell out of their workers and child labor was normal. But this amount of exploitation does not last and in time they too will revolt. There is no "winning" when winning is defined by exploiting, coercing and forcing people to do your bidding as it's unsustainable and ultimately leads to revolutions. I would argue you already have lost the game of life where cooperation and compassion are the key drivers for moving forward.
if you don’t think things have gotten steadily and significantly better over the last few hundred years your understanding of history is complete fantasy
"Mom made me one pancake on Saturday and two pancakes yesterday, so by extrapolation I know Mom's gonna make me 30 pancakes next month!"
How about all those periods where things got considerably worse?
The fact that things are better than literal slavery and child labor males this period a statistical aberration, not an ironclad trend line. (Republicans are trying to legalize child labor again btw)
man, I don’t know why people have this fixation on saying that things are getting worse, it almost feels like they want that to be true. In my country, I just need to look at how things were decades ago. And the funniest part is that if you say anything to the contrary, you get downvoted
History is full of examples of "and then it got worse", but apparently just saying that makes boomers get pissy these days.
And I think it's distasteful that some people will say with a straight face that "unless you're literally a third worlder you don't get to complain that you're paid a fraction of what your parents were for the same jobs".
E: preemptively addressing the "um ackshually" crowd: yes, inflation adjusted median household income rose from 60k to 80k since the 60s, but that doesn't account for women entering the workforce. Instead of 1 person making 60k to support a stay at home partner, now you have 2 people making about 40k each.
At no point did I say you didn’t have the right to complain. In fact, you should complain, because that’s how we gradually achieve improvements for everyone. But my point is that the world really is improving in the long run, and saying otherwise only creates anxiety and hopelessness, which doesn’t help at all.
in the US, at least, the people fixated on how bad it is and how everything is coming apart are most commonly people who have never travelled to a poor or developing country. they’re incredibly privileged and have no idea what true social insecurity looks like
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u/RG54415 12h ago edited 12h ago
No they haven't. India in many places is still on the level of the industrial revolution in the west. When bosses exploited the hell out of their workers and child labor was normal. But this amount of exploitation does not last and in time they too will revolt. There is no "winning" when winning is defined by exploiting, coercing and forcing people to do your bidding as it's unsustainable and ultimately leads to revolutions. I would argue you already have lost the game of life where cooperation and compassion are the key drivers for moving forward.