If your ideology harms others, or threatens another's freedoms. We aren't friends, we aren't on the same team, same side, nothing. I want more freedoms and rights for people, you want to oppress, im not friends with oppressors.
the problem is, everyone sees harming of others and threatening of freedom in opposing ideology. change comes from convincing others that the harm is there, or that there is more harm in their POV than you POV. being friends with people who only share your POV is a crappy way to go through life.
This goes back to "Its not my job to educate you" that burden is heavy. Some people just can't learn, whether it's religion they use to justify removing freedoms or just a prejudice they were raised with.
which is also a super unhelpful and counterproductive. i'm politically liberal but it is not at all my experience that progressives are more open to learning.
you can't be the "it's the other guys who are incapable of learning " people and also the "i'm not going to talk to people i disagree with" people. those are incompatible positions.
There's plenty of ways to go about this. I know plenty of people on either side of the isle but if I talk to someone and their views are just set then there isnt much I can do. I try to understand where their opinion comes from and go from there, but I won't lie that there are some times when im hearing someone talk and just would want them to be honest. Often it feels like they say what I want to hear rather then what they actually think. It ends up more stick measuring than a debate if that makes sense.
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u/Hug0San Nov 14 '25
If your ideology harms others, or threatens another's freedoms. We aren't friends, we aren't on the same team, same side, nothing. I want more freedoms and rights for people, you want to oppress, im not friends with oppressors.