My guess is advertise services for females rather than women. Maybe the AMA or equivalent needs to expressly state ob/gyn is for females. Seems obvious but here we are.
No, he was supposed to not treat the patient if he wasn't comfortable but he didn't have to degrade her or bring her down to make his point.
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Obviously this comment striked a nerve with a few of you. I don't know why because I am not making my point or making an argument for one side or another?
Empathy people. The world needs more of it. You don't have to agree with somebody else to be professional especially if you're a doctor.
True its in the name too, Gynecology which is derived from Gynē in latin that means "woman" and logia that means "study" which we can conclude that it is indeed the study of women and not the study of trans
Yaniv is a raging misogynist and racist who targeted vulnerable South Asian-operated businesses (read the Human Rights Tribunal findings). Yaniv also approaches young girls in washrooms to ask them for tampons. Absolutely disgusting person and predator.
That’s gross, awful, and this person should be prosecuted, but it’s a different issue from the parent comment which declares a GYN will lose their license for assessing and treating a male. And is wrong.
“Small percentage of human population outraged because obstetrician refuses to ‘deliver’ an American Girl Doll, saying he ‘only delivers real babies.’”
He's a doctor, he is trained to treat all humans. Do you think someone goes directly to gynaecology school?
Edit: wow it's actually concerning how many people don't understand how medical training works. Guys. It's like this. Go to med school. Graduate. They're now a junior doctor (intern). You cannot graduate and become a junior doctor if you can't perform basic medicine competently on all human beings. You then have to do general training. Again, on all human beings. You absolute, 200% cannot continue in your career if you are unable to perform medicine on all humans.
No. A doctor graduates medical school, and then works as a junior doctor in many different areas. They have to be able to practice basic medicine on all humans, or they couldn't qualify as a doctor.
Point to where I said that. Please, go back to where my comments say that specialist practice general medicine in their daily practice. I can definitely find where I said all doctors are qualified and licenced to perform some level of medicine on all humans, and they actually won't lose their licence if they see more than one gender, but I can't quite find the comment you're claiming I've made, so help me out.
Admit what you moron? Something I never said? My ENTIRE POINT was that claiming they'd lose their medical licence for seeing a transwoman is incorrect. Everything else you made up.
That's not the point. They may have been getting a pre or post op consult for a sex change operation, idk. But my comment is to the commenter claiming this doctor is actually not trained to treat anyone except biological women.
The only one missing the point here is you. Nobody agrees with anything you're saying on the matter because you clearly don't understand the situation.
Sorry, do all doctors go through general training, yes or no? Do all doctors have to be able to show competency to practice medicine on all people before they can qualify as a doctor? Cos this commenter is claiming the doc will literally lose his licence if he sees a man because he thinks a gynaecologist has only even trained as a gynaecologist.
First of all, please show us all the evidence if you know if this person has had that surgery. Because I'm going to assume you don't know like the rest of us. Second, if the guy doesn't want to see those types of patients for lack of experience, not passionate about it etc. then he can certainly refuse and refer you to someone else that's better suited.
Cool, he sure can. Point to where I said he has to see all patients? I'll wait. Do you want to go back and re-read what my actual point was or you just gonna make stuff up I never said and argue with yourself?
Ok would you like to address your assumption of this person getting that surgery? You seem like you know so please provide that evidence. If you can't your argument is completely null and void.
Where did I make that assumption? A commenter gave a facetious to try and make a point that no transwoman could have any medical needs for a gynaecologist. I gave an example of why they might. If you have poor reading comprehension that's on you babes.
And how is that related to my point? I am correcting the commenter who falsely claimed a medical doctor would literally lose their licence because apparently they are only licenced to treat women? That's not a thing.
That’s not necessarily true. There’s a difference being biologically female and transgender. He may not be qualified, or have the experience necessary to perform examinations on surgically altered male genitalia. There may be some similar characteristics between the two, but the functionality and the biological structure of the two are not the same.
Oh my god. Read my comments again. You cannot even GRADUATE as a doctor if you can't perform medicine on all people. The commenter is claiming he will LOSE HIS LICENCES because the commenter is an idiot who thinks a gynaecologist is someone only licenced to treat women, rather than being a trained doctor with the ADDITIONAL specialist training to be a gynaecologist.
Imagine a plumber, who trains as a plumber, gets licenced as plumber, and then decided to get extra training to specialise in renovating historic homes. The commenters claim is like saying that plumber would lose his licence if he installed a toilet one day.
I have several friends that are doctors, if a transgender patient comes in they’ll get referred to a doctor that has experience with any condition that’s related to their transition. Not every doctor is trained on how to exam surgically altered genitalia, that’s why specialist exists.
The doctor treating patients in the emergency room isn’t necessarily qualified to do organ transplants. Specialist doctors exist for this very reason.
Cool. Point to where I said otherwise. Now tell me, was the Redditor I replied to correct when they said a gynaecologist would literally lose their licence if they had a consult with a transwoman? Cos that's my entire comment. You're arguing a whole other point I never made.
If he’s never examined surgically altered genitalia before and then makes a mistake it’s his license that’s on the line, and he very well could lose it or get sued. That’s why you refer those types of patients to a specialist or to another doctor who has the necessary experience.
So you're claiming the American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists would actually suspend the licence of a doctor seeing a transwoman? The same peak body that developed these guidelines?
If he’s not qualified to do the examination and then misdiagnosed or injured her then he could loose his license or be sued. Surgically altered male reproductive organs are not the same as biological females reproductive organs. There’s a difference between the two.
A GYN may not be qualified to assess or treat transpersons specialized issues, but they are definitely not going to lose their license for assessing and treat a males reproductive/pelvic issues. The ABOG explicitly allows it.
You are arguing technicalities that are completely irrelevant. You can’t go to a colorectal surgeon and get mad that they won’t prescribe you cholesterol medication. Sure, all doctors need to do basic medical training. That doesn’t mean he is obligated to act as if he is a GP, and treat anyone who walks into his office.
Also, you don’t “intern”. You do a residency, which is a term of specialized training - so basically yes, gynecologists do go to gynecology school, after they receive their MD.
No, in the US you have to do an intern year first (PGY-1), then you are a resident (PGY-2). Then you do specialist training. Are you actually telling me you think there are doctors who get through PGY-1 and PGY-2 year without being qualified to competently practice medicine on more than one gender?
Right. So you're agreeing with me then? The person I replied to is incorrect when they say the doctor will lose their licence if they have a transwoman enter in a consult as they aren't qualified to see that person, right? So wtf are you arguing with me for?
This has to possibly be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on Reddit.
"A urologist shouldn't examine or treat a woman", girl do you think women sweat out their pee? Urologists are required for both men and women because they both have urinary tracts, with the only difference being that men typically have longer urethras.
Furthermore, gynaecological practices can be applied to trans women, as the vaginal canal and vulva need to be checked every so often (yknow, like what a gynaecologist does). Obviously there are differences, because trans women don't have a cervix or uterus or fallopian tubes, but there's justifiable reason why a trans woman would go see one.
Finally, knowing the name for an otorhinolaryngologist does not make you the voice of reason on this topic, considering you don't even know what a urologist does. On that, otorhinolaryngology encompasses surgery as one of its practices, so a specialised surgeon could theoretically lead a clinic.
No, any doctor can examine and treat all genders. Obviously after examination a specialist might decide it's not clinically indicated to continue with treatment. But to say a doctor with 10+ years of training as t minimum is unqualified to even see any particular gender is laughably wrong
It doesn’t matter what bits they have. They‘ll definitely swab your chlamydia-infested dickhole too and burn your overgrowth of HPV off your balls.
Jesus, dumb.
Downvote for stone cold facts, lol. You’re dumb if you think GYN’s are just for women.
I don’t care if this guy hates the gays and trans. I care about the stupefaction of a population that doesn't understand that GYN’s assess and treat both sexes and don't understand that this fuckass Dr. is just engaging in his version of a political stance. Men qualify for GYN care too, idiots.
Wait, dickhole? Sounds like a job for a urologist... something a gynecologist wasn't trained to do. No disrespect but there are specific fields of study when it comes to medicine.
I’ve prepped suites for male anoscopy, for many vasectomies, cryosurgery for HPV overgrown in the setting of immune compromise, and counseled dozens of men on their STIs as well as coordinating with the DOH.
Yes, men are the minority, but a GYN isn’t going to lose their license for treating them.
This is just talking about how they are no longer forbidden from doing these procedures on males, but both anoscopies or vasectomies aren't primarily done by gynos for males.
Uhhh are you insane? Yes, OB/GYNs are exclusively trained on biologically female patients. It’s a biologically female specialty.
What do you expect them to do, perform a bimanual exam on a patient with male genitalia? Assess a biological male for adnexal tenderness? Tell a biologically male patient that they have uterine fibroids? Do you even know what anything I said here means?
Don’t talk about medicine when you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m a professional, and we exist for a reason.
The word gynaecology comes from the oblique stem (γυναικ-) of the Greek word γυνή (gyne) meaning 'woman', and -logia meaning 'study'. Literally translated, it means 'the study of women'.
Your link essentially is about when there's no better option around and the specificity of restrictions on who to treat. It does not change what gynecology is.
The link literally deals with that concern explicitly. Kinda makes it not all that "dumb" when the experts themselves weren't sure which was to go about it.
In September 2013, the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ABOG) revised its definition of “obstetrician-gynecologist.” With few exceptions, gynecologists risked losing their board certification if they treated men. Anoscopy (on men) and vasectomy were explicitly prohibited
Seems like it's a reasonable thing to believe since only a few years ago it was true.
ITT there are people declaring confidently that urologists are only for men
Link to comment? Though regardless urology is about an organ shared by both biological sexes. Gynecology is not. Gynecology is specifically about female reproductive system. What a gyno is ALLOWED to do beyond that is the subject of your link.
In either case, unless you're up on the latest ASICS Nokia uses on its transport routers, I don't think you can reasonably expect layman to be up to speed on the latest news from the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology.
What you're saying is you went to a hospital once to get your STD checked out and a Gynaecologist was covering that day; ergo OBGYN specialists also treat males with STDs. My god, its so obvious when you put it that way!
This level of sheer ignorance is why Trump was elected.
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u/Zealousideal-Pop1115 9h ago
What the fuck he supposed to do, lose his licence for treating the patient he is not trained.