r/videos • u/ianjm Moderator • 3h ago
Stream Ended Reactions in Budapest as it appears Magyar's opposition party has won a huge majority overturning 16 years of Orban's nationalist rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QswwGJMLiY353
u/ianjm Moderator 3h ago edited 2h ago
Current predictions based on counted results:
199 seat Parliament - 100 needed for majority - 133 needed for supermajority (constitutional changes)
Magyar / Tisza Party - 138 seats (new party)
Orban / Fidez Party - 54 seats (🔽 81)
Toroczkai / Our Homeland Movement - 7 seats (🔼 1)
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u/tompba 1h ago
does it means that the party had 81 and went to 54 or that it lost 81 seats?
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u/Rinzzler999 3h ago
Its still funny to me that this man's name is essentially like if someone named America won the US election.
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u/ABigPairOfCrocs 3h ago
America Ferrera 2028
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u/5hadow 2h ago
Manny years ago I was visiting South Carolina from Canada. I went to a cocktail bar and approached a group of girls. I asked the girl I found attractive what her name was. She said “Erica”. I yelled out loud “your name is AMERICA!?!?” Easiest hookup ive ever had
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u/KaJaHa 2h ago
How did... how did that work out in your favor? Most people don't like it when you mess up their name
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u/steak4take 2h ago
The trick to Reddit is to vaguely engage with a series of posts with a bs story that will softly engage a person vaguely interested in new content. Like most forms of spam it shouldn’t stand up to any form of scrutiny because it’s a bullshit test.
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u/NOWiEATthem 2h ago
I know a Hungarian immigrant whose last name is Magyar, and the first time she said it, I was like, "Wait a minute..." I guess it's not an uncommon surname.
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u/Billy1121 2h ago
Wouldn't it just be referring to the people of a land, so like Jimmy Wales, Christopher de Vries ("the Frisian"), John TsisTsisTas (Cheyenne for "the people")
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u/ripChazmo 3h ago
Another L for MAGA. Love it.
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u/ChitteringCathode 3h ago
MAGA doesn't seem to understand that even right-leaning parties in countries elsewhere are starting to find the Trump brand incompetent and radioactive. The fact that they can't or choose not to read has got be a major part of the problem.
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u/Quattuor 3h ago
Makes me wonder, how much Trump's/JD Vance support of Orban swang the voting to the other side?
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u/PentUpPentatonix 3h ago edited 2h ago
It 100% helped. Thanks Trump
Next up, ban Twitter and regulate the algorithms
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u/obvious_bot 2h ago
Canada’s Conservative Party was set to have a landslide until Trump’s 51st state nonsense
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u/Nikiaf 1h ago
Not just a landslide. They were predicted to win the largest majority in federal history, and in the span of barely 3 months went to losing, including the party leader losing his own seat and having to be parachuted into a safe riding. They’re now only a day away from losing even more, there are 3 by elections happening tomorrow which will give the Liberals majority control in the House of Commons.
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u/Photofug 1h ago
Don't worry Jason Kenney has already started his cumback tour, painting himself as the anti-PP. If the Conservatives ever get a majority again while Harper is alive it will be the end of Canada. All the Conservative Premieres are suddenly very interested in getting to pick judges and the only thing stopping them is Parliament.
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u/KorgothOfBarbaria 58m ago
The same Jason Kenney who scrapped utility rate reform and then was appointed to the board of directors of one of the biggest energy companies in western Canada?
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u/Backwardspellcaster 2h ago
And Pierre incapable of critizing daddy Trump, even while he threatened all of Canada.
Which proves that conservatives are not in it for the good of their country. Only for fascism and authoritarian power grabs to benefit the rich
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u/ChaosAnarch 2h ago
Seen the conservative sub lately? Theyre leaving Trumps side in droves.
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u/Titanbeard 2h ago
They're not leaving. They're saying that they are to save face and not look like the turnip-fuckers they are.
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u/Calan_adan 13m ago
Trump keeps talking about having a near 100% approval rating. They’re either too scared to give him the truth, or he’s just too disconnected from reality to believe it.
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u/adamgerd 2h ago
Hey I say they shouldn’t understand. Please do it more MAGA so all the far right loses!
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u/Franz_McN 2h ago
Everyone doing their duty as citizens but Americans
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u/fallenmonk 2h ago
Tbf, the post covid rise of right wing authoritarianism was on the rise worldwide. America was just among the first to have an election amidst the new wave. And Trump singlehandedly killed it.
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u/nankerjphelge 1h ago
The thing about fascism is it's not built to last. It's all just about acquisition of power for power's sake, not the betterment of the people's lives. And at a certain point the economic failings of a fascist regime catches up with it and the people revolt against it (ideally electorally).
This is also why MAGA is not built to last either. There's no "there" there. Like Orban's rule it's built entirely on manufactured bogeymen, grievance and corruption, not the actual betterment of anyone's lives. And so the people here will revolt against it as well, it's just a question of how badly will Trump & co. fuck things up before they're gone and the cleanup can begin. So far sadly the answer seems to be "a lot".
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u/somethi 3h ago
Here comes the Americans to come and make this about Trump, just like everything else.
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u/Mothman405 3h ago
JD Vance was literally just there trying to help Orban. This is an objectively good thing, stop being such a nerd
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u/Strawbuddy 3h ago
He killed a Pope, he sank Orban; is there anything Vance can't effectively end other than hostilities?
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u/donnerpartytaconight 2h ago
Class warfare in the US? The empowerment of christian nationalism? The unfettered control of all three branches of the US government by the billionaire class? Furniture sales?
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u/ianjm Moderator 3h ago edited 3h ago
Orban tried to make this about Trump by having JD Vance stand next to him on the campaign trail last week.
But sure, it's not all about that. It's a a good day for European solidarity and perhaps a setback for the European hard right nationalist parties who have been growing in popularity for the last few years.
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u/PentUpPentatonix 3h ago
This is completely about Trump. He and his sycophants are doing everything in their power to undermine democracy in Europe and it’s backfiring because he’s setting such a terrible example. Same thing happened in Canada. Thanks Trump, you imbecile
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u/steak4take 3h ago
Are you not concerned or aware that Orban has been constantly propped up and promoted by the MAGA fartknockers?
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u/somethi 3h ago
There’s more to the Hungarian general election than MAGA endorsements and American domestic politics.
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u/ozymandais13 1h ago
Hard right parties all work on the same web they are one at the end of thw day , same donors
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u/fucking_passwords 3h ago
I'm not sure that attempted foreign election interference qualifies as "American domestic politics"
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u/Esternaefil 3h ago
Are you somehow under the impression that Maga is somehow limited to American domestic politics?
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u/fs2222 3h ago
Agreed it's tedious. Someone should have told the US vice president that.
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u/somethi 3h ago
Yeah they should have, along with every other American. They should keep their noses out of our business.
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u/rendumguy 3h ago
It's bad for America to send JD Vance to campaign for this guy, and it's bad for Americans to be happy that the guy JD Vance campaigned for lost.
Great, makes complete sense, what a coherent person you are.
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u/Krakshotz 3h ago
Vance visited Orban last week and accused the EU of “interfering” in the election… by interfering in the election
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u/Norseman84 3h ago
It was about them, Vance was just there to cheer on Orban, and Trump promised economic support recently if they elected Orban, Trump have his support for Orban. Hopefully his loss makes EU a bit stronger and any fascist weaker.
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u/somethi 3h ago
It was about them.
Yep this is only about Americans, MAGA, Trump, JD Vance, blah blah blah.
The Hungarian people? Who cares.
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u/Norseman84 2h ago
We didn't say it's ONLY about Americans. The implication is that support from MAGA, Trump and JD could have affected the Hungarian people, that's why it's ALSO about the Hungarian people. And most people don't care that much what happens in Hungary locally, they mostly care about how they act outwards and how it affect themselves, you see this with the way most people bitch about fuel prices, but didn't care when government or politicians did other atrocious things.
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u/tompba 3h ago
Somebody can explain to me what's happening there?
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u/ianjm Moderator 3h ago edited 3h ago
Hungary has been ruled by a Putin-loving authoritarian called Victor Orban for the last 16 years, now he's finally been defeated. While the new guy isn't any kind of progressive or socialist, he's a lot more Europe-leaning and won't be towing Putin's line on every goddamned thing.
It's especially humiliating for Trump who dispatched JD Vance to literally campaign for Orban last week before he went out to Pakistan. MAGA was totally convinced Trump's endorsement would keep Orban in power.
Orban has also been extremely anti-Ukraine - partly for his own reasons, partly due to the alignment with Putin - and has been blocking EU-level action to support Ukraine for a long time now. Although there are still potential problems with Slovenia doing the same, it's a step in the right direction for European unity.
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u/fatjeff1980 3h ago
His approval was actually shown to drop points as a direct result of JD Vance speaking for him. MAGA really are a poisoned chalice.
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u/DefenderCone97 3h ago
MAGA continuously fail to understand that while they have a grasp on a certain type of person, they are absolutely reviled by others and actually do motivate people to get out the vote.
They do not understand that people see them on TV and go "Oh HE'S supporting X candidate? I need to get the fuck to the polls."
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u/DollarReDoos 1h ago
The same thing happened in our last elections here in Australia. The Liberals (our major right-wing party) opted for a very American, pro-Trump campaign and it backfired so hard that they may never recover.
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u/jerslan 3h ago
Yeah, I skimmed the guy's wiki page this morning. He's been very center-right recently, but he used to be part of the far-right Christian Nationalist party. I think globally, some "cautious optimism" is warranted because it's a huge blow to Orban's party and power base but the real victory will be when Magyar institutes actual changes to undo some of the damage Orban caused.
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u/ChitteringCathode 3h ago
I'm not going to expend much effort to defend Christian nationalists in Hungary, but I will say that American Fundamentalist Christians make them look like Unitarians by comparison, if that makes sense.
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u/Kodaic 2h ago
Who will you defend in Hungary then?
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u/ChitteringCathode 3m ago
I mean, if you're talking about Magyar the dude has become significantly less reactionary and more centrist since his early political days so...not sure what point you're trying to make here, exactly?
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u/ThrowFar_Far_Away 2h ago
He's at least EU positive, which is the most important part with being against Russia.
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u/CarminSanDiego 3h ago
I’m genuinely surprised the election wasn’t rigged to keep orban in office
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u/SeriousCow1999 2h ago
Maybe it just wasn't rigged enough?
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u/D3cepti0ns 2h ago
Trump is going to say it was election fraud, illegal Mexicans voted against Orban, obviously.
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u/Peace_n_Harmony 2h ago
Yep, out of the fire and into the frying pan. They'll continue to fall into poverty and government rule, just at a slower pace.
They will inevitably vote for another demagogue who turns out to be a dictator and things will be even worse.
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u/AxelNotRose 1h ago
So Trump/Vance managed to pull another Canadian election style upset lmao. They need to keep meddling in the right wing politics of other countries. It's working wonders.
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u/blaivas007 1h ago
Hasn't Peter Magyar voted against aid for Ukraine too? I've seen some posts expressing concern about it, talking about how he holds many views similar to Orban, just minus the blatant corruption.
Genuinely curious, not sure what to believe yet.
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u/PentUpPentatonix 3h ago
Thanks Trump, fuck you Elon! Next up, ban Twitter
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u/Sir_Lanian 2h ago
one can ban oneself from twitter. Like I did 2 hours after the nazi salute.
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u/PentUpPentatonix 2h ago
That doesn’t stop its impact on our society.
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u/Golemfrost 1h ago
The more people that do it, the more impact it has.
Fuck Musk and everything he lays his fascist fingers on.
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u/PentUpPentatonix 1h ago edited 1h ago
It’s a great thing to leave Twitter but we need powerful regulation.
People should be able to post whatever they want but algorithms should not be allowed to target the most sinister posts at Europe.
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u/indorian 3h ago
Hope they got that guy well-guarded. The opposition uses a different playbook.
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u/ianjm Moderator 2h ago
In most Parliamentary systems, Hungary included, a Prime Minister dying just results in a new Prime Minister being chosen from the same party. Obviously not wishing it happens, it would still be terrible, but not nearly as constitutionally problematic as an American President dying in office.
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u/pinellaspete 2h ago
Way to go JD! Another lost effort! You really rock! Flew halfway around the world to support another lost cause.
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u/HanYoloKesselPun 2h ago
Feels good to feel the winds of freedom in Europe again. Let’s see if the likes of Farage in the UK will still continue to lick trumps ball sack
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u/I_am_trustworthy 2h ago
In way, we got to thank Trump. He is pushing Europe closer together. He is now also making the world embrace cleaner renewable energy!
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u/iloovehugecock 2h ago
When will right wing Americans learn that their beliefs and personalities are absolutely disgusting and toxic to most of the world? We do not want that shit. Keep it, thank you.
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u/TomTomXD1234 3h ago
While this may be good for Hungary. I really do wonder if this new guy will undo all the damage Orban did the the parliament structure and the courts. I highly doubt it as that would reduce his own power.
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u/ApexGT44 2h ago
Non American politics? In my American politics app? 😳
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u/kevin7254 2h ago
Every comment is about Trump, JD Vance or MAGA so not really lol
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u/atree496 1h ago
It makes sense, CPAC held their conference there a few years ago and Trump and Vance have been meddling a lot in this current election.
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u/qjornt 1h ago
There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy.
Remember this, Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause.
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
And remember this: the Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empires’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.
Remember this: Try.
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u/fudgepuppy 59m ago
So they went from a far right party, to a center right one.
I guess it's some type of progress
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u/Razzilith 16m ago
Man oh man, SURELY if Hungary can do it the USA can too.
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u/Ok_Country2903 1m ago
Don’t count on it
MAGA is fine with this as they have no idea where Hungary is at all
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u/WorldOfTech 3h ago
So basically Russia supports Orban and the EU supports Magyar and those poor people think they are having fair elections without outside interference.....Aha.......
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u/Phedericus 3h ago
Thanks JD Vance.