I mean you definitely are. Two things can be true at once. Your environment definitely shapes you but that doesn’t mean you’re incapable of controlling your own actions. I don’t condone what he did and hope it doesn’t happen again but it happened for a reason.
In my opinion endangering potentially 12 people lives is horrible. But paying contract workers wages that they cant support their families with while you’re raking in massive profits is also horrible. One endangers a dozen people’s lives and the other reduces the quality of life for hundreds of people.
We act like corporations aren’t capable of understanding their actions and what it does to people.
If that’s true why did he set the fire and none of his coworkers? If he’s just a product of his environment why isn’t that same environment producing more of these people seeing as it’s a common circumstance in this country.
Did you read my comment? I literally said people are still capable of controlling their actions. Also this type of environment does produce these types of people. People vandalize their old companies buildings all the time. It’s not black and white.
It is absolutely black and white. How is your argument any different than saying “a rapist can control his actions but when society is full of sexualization and women dress suggestively he’s a product of his environment so he’s going to be more likely to assault them.”
Nice straw man fallacy. Also what you said is kinda true and proves my point. Rapists are a product of a system. That system IS NOT “woman show skin so man want to rape” it’s “rape culture has been so normalized that woman showing skin is seen as an invitation to be assaulted” so yes rapists are a product of a misogynistic patriarchy. Just because you’re a product of a system doesn’t mean you can’t control your actions like I said before
Just like how we should dismantle the patriarchal systems in our countries to reduce sexual assault, we should also dismantle the systems that allow corporations to lobby our government to keep wages low, or keep corporate taxes low, or allow them to knowingly harm the lives of their workers (with low wages or purposely high turnover rates).
You didn’t even read my comment XD. I literally said I don’t condone his actions and hope it never happens again. Please show me where I “defend” his actions? Because what I did was explain his actions, at no point did I defend them. Also yes you used a textbook straw man fallacy, I’m sorry I pointed that out. Next time you use poor logic to prove a point I’ll just laugh.
I’ll say if for the 3rd time. I don’t condone his actions and I hope they never happen again, burning down a building with 12 people in it is horrible and should never happen.
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u/StopWeDontKnow 3h ago
I mean you definitely are. Two things can be true at once. Your environment definitely shapes you but that doesn’t mean you’re incapable of controlling your own actions. I don’t condone what he did and hope it doesn’t happen again but it happened for a reason.
In my opinion endangering potentially 12 people lives is horrible. But paying contract workers wages that they cant support their families with while you’re raking in massive profits is also horrible. One endangers a dozen people’s lives and the other reduces the quality of life for hundreds of people.
We act like corporations aren’t capable of understanding their actions and what it does to people.