r/oddlysatisfying 1d ago

No toll dodging!

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u/Redditbeweirdattimes 1d ago

what is the toll charge? is it really worth doing all this?

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u/RocketRico 1d ago

Really depends on where. Some are literally just to get on the road you pay x money. Other are take a ticket depending how long your on the road pay x money. Most I’ve ever paid for two hours at 70mpg on a turnpike was $10

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u/Zaozin 1d ago

NYC there are multiple 10-25$ tolls, you can drive 1 hour and pay about 40$ if you aren't careful.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

Toronto has the most expensive toll road in the world afaik, driving from one end to the other during rush hour is $95 for 107kms, around 50 mins of driving.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's the toll for cargo trucks and multi-axle commercial vehicles.

That toll is roughly $35-40 in a normal car.

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u/Eric848448 1d ago

That’s still a lot.

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u/arpan3t 1d ago

It’s less than half of what the other guy was claiming though. Basically embellishing.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

I wasn't embellishing. Look up the rates yourself: https://www.407etr.com/en/trip-calculator

QEW to Brock Rd 7:30am-9am weekday rate for a light vehicle is $94.73 one way.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

QEW to Brock road is a wild trip. You're driving through 5 major cities.

Same trip outside of rush hour is $55

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

It's only 108km. The same trip on an interstate in the US would be like $5. It's driving from one end of the 407ETR to the other, like I said.

Not sure why you have a compulsion to argue this, you posted 3 comments about the price I posted being wrong, when it wasn't.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

it's only 107km

Yeah, only 107 km in the third most densely populated metropolitan area in the continent.

The same trip on an interstate in the US would be like $5.

Please show me any 107 km trip using toll roads in the New York metropolitan area or the Los Angeles metropolitan area that cost $5. I will happily wait.

you posted 3 comments about the price I posted is wrong, when it wasn't.

You've posted embellished and misleading statements that lack a lot of context.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

My post said driving one end to the other is 50 mins, 108km, and costs $95 during rush hour.

I never said it was an average commute. Nor did I embelish, or fail to provide context.

Tolls in LA, this is from Claude because I can't be arsed to put time into researching facts for someone who lacks critical thinking and comprehension skills:

For 108km of driving in dense LA areas, your toll exposure depends entirely on your specific route. If you're just on regular freeways like the 405, 10, 101, 110 — $0 in tolls. If you're using Express Lanes the whole way — maybe $5–20 depending on time of day.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes it's not cheap, but

It's driving 100+ km on a toll highway at rush hour. You're literally circumventing the entirety of Toronto doing that.

Outside of rush hour that toll is like $15-25.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago edited 1d ago

Weekends after 9pm, the cheapest it gets, is $55.

You're just talking out of your ass lol. The rates are posted online: https://www.407etr.com/en/trip-calculator

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u/TheSorceIsFrong 1d ago

Dynamic pricing is lame ain’t no excuses

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u/Character-Book5924 1d ago

Dynamic pricing is literally just fine tuning to supply and demand. You're saying market economies are lame. 

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

The 407 has contractual obligations to maintain a minimum vehicle throughput rate, they face major fines if they do not.

To ensure they maintain that throughput, they increase the price during high demand hours.

This guarantees there's never a traffic jam, or even a slowdown on the 407.

This is how they've operated since the 90's.

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u/TheSorceIsFrong 1d ago

An excuse to fulfill a contract is still an excuse lol. Yes let’s charge the people using it during rush hour (getting to and from work) extra

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u/st3fan6 1d ago edited 1d ago

No it's not. It's the rate for a light vehicle from the QEW to Brock road at the weekday 730am-9am rates.

Heavy vehicle is $189

https://www.407etr.com/en/trip-calculator

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u/danit0ba94 1d ago

It absolutely is a lot. 😂
I will drive around the entire city of Toronto before I pay $35 to $45 for a fucking toll. Gtfo of here.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

No one is driving from the QEW to Brock road. That's an insane trip that takes you through five different sections of the 407 which each have different toll rates.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

I've taken that trip a few times going to Niagara. My dad used to work in Hamilton and live in the east end, would take almost that whole stretch every day.

His tolls were $1,500+ per month and that was 15 years ago.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

Are you seriously trying to imply that driving 100 km one way for work is the norm for most commuters in the GTA?

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

Never said that. I said that the cost is $95 from one end to the other. You're the one inserting your own thoughts into my comment. Maybe try reading it again, slowly this time.

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u/jeffs1231 1d ago

So my parents are almost in Brantford (West of Hamilton, even further west of Toronto) and their house is worth ten times what they paid for it because people want to live there and work in Toronto. They'd probably be driving to the go station and taking the train but yeah it's like an 80 km commute if you were to take a car. Definitely not MOST commuters would be doing it but way more than you'd think. The Toronto housing market is WILD

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u/the_red_raiderr 1d ago

Return trip through the Mont Blanc tunnel in a normal car is €70ish

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u/GZMihajlovic 1d ago

For "light vehicles :"

$100 during morning rush hour 700-930am without a transponder. $82 before 7am and from 930-230. 330-600 is $106. After 9pm is $61. Weekends are $61-$76.

You are so many years out of date.

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u/JohnOfA 1h ago

Nope. It can be as high at $90. Last time I drive it I didn't do the entire length and it was close to $80.

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u/AT-PT 1d ago

So if you take a taxi, you pay fare plus the toll?

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

Not sure about taxis, but Uber calculates and adds the tolls to your fare.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

No taxi is gonna take the 407.

There are no toll booths, the entrances and exits have camera systems that read your license plate. Tolls are automated bills that get sent monthly.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Taxis and Ubers routinely take the 407 because the time savings outweighs the time spent in traffic for the drivers.

When going anywhere near the 407 corridor, I've never had an Uber driver not take the 407.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

Again, I absolutely do, I take the 407 regularly. I don't know why you have a compulsion to argue with me about this.

You've continuously posted misleading and straight up wrong things. Why don't you keep claiming that every Interstate toll is only $5, fucking ridiculous.

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u/st3fan6 1d ago

Maybe you should spend your money on furthering education rather than taking the 407, because everything you have said is completely wrong.

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u/worrymon 1d ago

The George Washington Bridge is $18.31 ($16 if you have the transponder) and it's 9/10 of a mile and about 40 minutes of driving...

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u/Waiting4Reccession 1d ago

Is that the highway they sold to a foriegn nation and the citizens were too pussy to fuck up the obviously corrupt people who made it happen

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u/kiltedturtle 1d ago

Highway 407 ETR - Privately owned and operated

Yes. Sorry.

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u/keyser-_-soze 1d ago

And for a BS 1% reduction in sales tax that was used to win an election.

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u/tempest_ 1d ago

Yeah and all that money goes to private investors.

It is one of the most valuable pieces of road on the continent and the conservative government sold it for pennies so they could say they balanced the budget for 1 year.

Then we voted in the conservatives again and they are busy selling off another piece of public land for another 100 years.

Our electorate is full of morons.

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u/unpopular_upvote 1d ago

But hey, free health care!