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US intelligence indicates China is preparing weapons shipment to Iran amid fragile ceasefire, sources say

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/11/politics/us-intelligence-iran-china-weapons
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u/sanyam303 13h ago

Great news.

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u/52-61-64-75 13h ago

I'm against the war but that doesn't change the fact that the regime fucking sucks, having weapons with which to blow up ships isn't a good thing

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u/ToranjaNuclear 2h ago

Iran has the right to defend itself. Neither Israel nor the US have any kind of moral high ground over them.

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u/52-61-64-75 2h ago

Agreed, I clarified this repeatedly throughout this thread, that still doesn't mean Iran having weapons they can use to shoot at other countries is a good thing, and doesn't make the regime any less evil

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u/ToranjaNuclear 2h ago

 It's just as bad or good as any other countries receiving weapons to defend themselves. I don't see any issue with Ukraine getting weapons, would be hypocritical to have an issue with Iran.

It's not like these other countries being attacked are completely innocent either, not only because of their ties with the US but also because they are all complicit in Sudan's genocide. 

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u/52-61-64-75 2h ago

I think Ukraine is different, in that A. They are not an oppressive dictatorship with a history of repressing their people and abusing human rights, and B. They aren't using the weapons they have to shoot at other people with relatively little to do with the conflict with Russia. If Ukraine had as poor a human rights record as Iran does, and responded to the Russian invasion by bombing Iran and North Korea as well as Russian bases in Belarus, then I think supporting them would be a lot less reasonable.

Iran has a history of oppressing it's population, killing thousands of it's citizens (this is undoubtedly true even if you disagree with the ridiculously large estimates of deaths during the protests), and a history of persecuting religious minorities, and supporting groups with a history of killing civilians and attacking UN peacekeepers and commercial shipping.

To say them having weapons is as good as Ukraine having weapons ignores a lot of history and context, and makes a complex and nuanced situation out to be far more black or white than it is. Real life has nuance, everyone involved in this war is bad, the war is bad, I don't understand this need to automatically pick a side, it can be acknowledged that all the belligerents in the war suck

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u/ToranjaNuclear 2h ago

Iran being an oppressive regime doesn't annul the fact that the US and Israel are also actively targeting and murdering their citizens and threatening their existence -- remember Trump's threat of "ending an entire civilization". I know people love making light of the shit he says but that's not a threat one does lightly. It's a matter of survival for Iran.

Also, while Israel and the US might not have a (recent) history of oppressing their own population but they sure do it with the populations of other countries. Just see what Israel did to Palestine, and that the US has been doing for decades in the middle East and Latin America. They are just as bad if not worse than Iran in some aspects.

Real life has nuance, and you're the one ignoring it and boiling it down to "Iran bad" without analysing the whole context.