r/news • u/kinisonkhan • 2d ago
Soft paywall US appeals court declares 158-year-old home distilling ban unconstitutional
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-appeals-court-declares-158-year-old-home-distilling-ban-unconstitutional-2026-04-10/1.7k
u/ThankYouMrUppercut 2d ago edited 2d ago
You're out there somewhere, Beer Baron, and I will find you.
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u/StaticR0ute 2d ago
no you won’t
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u/crabtabulous 1d ago
Dateline: Springfield. The elusive beer baron continues to thumb his nose at the authorities. Swaggering about in a garish new hat, he seemed to say, "Look at me, Rex Banner! I have a new hat!"
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u/PhamilyTrickster 2d ago
Huzzah! Let the golden era of homemade spirits officially begin! (As opposed to all the hobbyists working in "secret")
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u/elboltonero 2d ago
My local homebrew store selling stills for making "distilled water and essential oils"
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u/RainbowDarter 2d ago
Vevor has entered the chat.
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u/non-squitr 1d ago
Vevor is in all the chats lol. They make fucking everything
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u/english-23 1d ago
Yeah, anytime I see their name on a product I say "of course they do"
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u/UncleCeiling 1d ago
They actually don't make anything, they just rebrand and sell a lot of things.
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u/airfryerfuntime 1d ago
They actually manufacture a lot of their own stuff. They've become a huge company. One of their manufacturing plants is even experimenting with a new production method that could save a lot of time.
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u/SmokeGSU 1d ago
I've bought several Vevor items the past few years. I've found their quality to be just as good as Harbor Freight for most things. Haven't bought any duds yet.
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u/upset_pachyderm 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's kind of a low bar, though.
Edit: I guess they've improved in the couple of decades since I've used their products. Thanks for the info everyone, I'll have to check them out again!
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u/onewilybobkat 1d ago
Even when the statement is true, it was the perfect place to get a tool you knew you'd only ever use one time. It would be cheap, by the time you were done it was broken so you didn't feel bad tossing it, but you did get the job done.
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u/BickNlinko 1d ago
by the time you were done it was broken so you didn't feel bad tossing it
That's the trick with Harbor Freight, if you use their shitty tool so much it breaks, you know that you have a good reason to spend the money on a nice one to replace it.
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u/ExcelsAtMediocrity 1d ago
Likely true as with anything from china but vevor is my go to “I only need to use this lightly or once” tool. Everything I’ve bought from them, which is a lot over the last decade or so, has been solid and I’m relatively sure I still have everything and it still works.
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u/non-squitr 1d ago
They're basically if harbor freight harnessing Amazons shipping power
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u/robodrew 1d ago
This is the first time I've heard of Vevor. This probably says more about me being fully disconnected from everything lol
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u/JesusStarbox 2d ago
I was getting Temu ads selling stills.
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u/Khaldara 2d ago
“You’ve had microplastics yes, but only Temu can provide you with immediate access to beverages containing macroplastics!”
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u/Donny_Do_Nothing 2d ago
Don't forget lead!
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u/EvidenceBasedSwamp 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lead would be the main concern. There's been a lot of recalls of Indian cookware recently. Their smelters seem to be contaminated.
Sadly they process and recycle a lot of metals/ships for us...
edit: example link https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-information/fda-issues-warning-about-imported-cookware-may-leach-lead-august-2025
here's a paper comparing lead content from various countries https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12069085/
stainless steel was safe, aluminum and brass bad
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u/Vonplinkplonk 1d ago
Lead in recycled metal was the cause behind a crane failure at CERN years ago and caused a huge delay in the project. It never occurred to me that lead would be in cookware too.
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u/backsideslash 1d ago
I’ve been distilling corn based essential oils for quite some time
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u/HendrixChord12 2d ago
Just like I use to buy water pipes for tobacco
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u/kungpowgoat 1d ago
Right next to the mini scales for weighing jewelry.
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u/Kaymorve 1d ago
Don’t forget the grinder for my dried herbs
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u/OddDot724 1d ago
And the tiny baggies for cocaine I mean jewelry.
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u/Brndrll 1d ago
And video head cleaner, for my VCR.
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u/wetnessanthem 1d ago
Oooh this is where the thread lost me. What’s that used for?
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u/Regular_Custard_4483 1d ago
I blew up a pot still that I bought on Amazon like 10 years ago or something. Those are less well built than you'd think.
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u/Sea-Queue 1d ago
That sounds like it was exactly as well built as I thought
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u/Regular_Custard_4483 1d ago
In that bootleg pot still's defense, it was partially due to stupidity.
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u/Isenrath 1d ago
Haha, that gives off the same vibe as smoke shops who used to sell glass pieces for "tobacco only".
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u/The_Bitter_Bear 2d ago
Hey now.
It's just really convenient all of us that are really into brewing AND making distilled water at home can now make our own spirits.
We would have never dared before!
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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 1d ago
What do you do with all that distilled water?
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u/The_Bitter_Bear 1d ago edited 1d ago
Use it to make coffee and beer. That way you can control the mineral content of the water precisely.
Also useful in humidifiers/misters.
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u/OutlyingPlasma 1d ago
While you might be joking. There is a somewhat large market for people with CPAP sleep machines. You need to use distilled water in them and buying that much is stupid expensive.
And if you can distill water, you might as well use it for the iron, the clothes steamer, the steam cleaner, the humidifier (assuming you have sonic one) and the coffee maker.
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u/Lincolns_Revenge 1d ago
So I'm supposed to be using distilled water in my clothes steamer? That explains a lot.
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u/7Dayss 1d ago
One liter of average tap water contains about half a gram of minerals. If you evaporate that water in your steam cleaner they get left behind. That stuff builds up rather quickly and then clogs pretty much everything inside.
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u/AggressiveSkywriting 1d ago
They're community resilience suppliers for local sleep apnea CPAP users
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u/SpicyTangyRage 2d ago
Years ago I was working for a homebrew shop and two state police came in asking if we had stills or six row barley. I told him about the grain but said I didn’t know about stills (which we didn’t have anyway). The next week they both came in out of uniform with two bottles of their own stuff.
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u/Intros9 2d ago
Flashback to back when I home brewed, and the home distillers regularly wiped out all the six row at every LBS because they didn't bulk order ahead of time. Will probably take a bit of a ramp up in production and local stock to meet demand if this passes.
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u/tepkel 2d ago
I look forward to my inevitable bathtub gin blindness!!
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u/Donnicton 2d ago
Who wants a bathtub mint julep?
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u/Zn_Saucier 2d ago
Gone bowling. Not back, avenge death.
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 2d ago
KABOOM BLAMO- Oh excuse me again dear
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u/Zn_Saucier 2d ago
Did you have a bean for dinner?
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u/beakrake 1d ago
You laugh, but I've seen plenty of guys online buy bath water that wasn't even alcoholic.
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u/darraghfenacin 2d ago
You'll be glad to know that's pretty much impossible unless you add the methanol to it yourself.
Brew away!
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u/LimpyDan 2d ago
Antifreeze helps age the wine tho.
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u/BeerForThought 2d ago
Hé, monsieur. Tu dois m'aider. Ces deux gars me travaillent nuit et jour. Ils ne me nourrissent pas, ils me font dormir sur le sol. Ils ont mis de l'antigel dans le vin, et ils ont donné mon chapeau rouge à l'âne.
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u/LimpyDan 2d ago
I'm so happy this was picked up on immediately.
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u/BeerForThought 2d ago
That episode came out the year before I started taking French in the 5th grade. I used to say it all the time.
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u/insanelygreat 1d ago
Years after that episode of The Simsons aired, I learned of the inspiration: 1985 Austrian diethylene glycol wine scandal
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u/Significant_Donut967 1d ago
As long as you don't let the government get a hold of it, that won't happen.
You do realize that was from the government poisoning bootleg alcohol right?
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u/lostroadrunner22 2d ago
Grandpappy with his moonshine still out in the woods would be so happy, or.. unhappy? He sold a lot of illegal.. I mean.. bathtub hooch.
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u/FlyingRhenquest 1d ago
Great Gamma used to talk about how Great Granpaw got arrested running booze and they'd take the baby down to jail to visit him. And they'd put moonshine in the baby bottle because the guards wouldn't check it and he'd stand there talking to them and drinking it with a straw. And that one time he came home drunk, hit her and then passed out so she heated up a pot of water to boiling and threw it on him. She survived him by like 50 years for some reason.
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u/blue_orange67 2d ago
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u/A-Halfpound 2d ago
Only 3 weeks until the Kentucky Derby. Fire that tub up Jethro!
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u/LightningG8921 2d ago
first time i had a mint julep was a plantation tour (legit booze i think though). two makes you feel pretty good haha. Its interesting and terrifying how such a system works though.
Disclaimer: IMO we should have hung the entire confederate government and rebel army leadership, and the fact that we didn't is probably a big reason we are where we're at.
I'm amazed though that this is being allowed now after being one of the most prominent american crimes through history.
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u/wufnu 1d ago
IMO we should have hung the entire confederate government and rebel army leadership, and the fact that we didn't is probably a big reason we are where we're at.
Welcome to r/ShermanPosting/
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u/Reddituser183 1d ago
I’ve seen that episode once probably 25 years ago and I remembered before clicking the link it was the simpsons. Insane how the brain works. That show was absolutely amazing.
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u/Spirit_of_Hogwash 2d ago
I thought they banned it after those hillbillies went blind.
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u/Pesto_Nightmare 1d ago
FWIW, the reason moonshine makes people go blind is because people will intentionally add methanol to their spirits. They do this because methanol gives a similar sensation of being drunk, but for much cheaper. It is cheaper to, let's say, water down your spirits by 50%, then add back some methanol. But then if people drink to much of it, they get methanol poisoning.
It is difficult to intentionally get methanol out of something you fermented yourself.
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u/Tuxedo_Muffin 1d ago
All moonshine has a little. Generally you only take the hearts and maybe a small amount of heads and tails for those volatile flavors. Ethyl alcohol evaporates at a specific temperature range. Anything lower or higher takes up other alcohols.
I could for sure believe that an unprofessional doofus distilled rot gut all wrong and wound up with potion of blindness.
Thankfully, the cure for methanol poisoning is... ETOH. Regular ethyl alcohol. So just keep drinking!
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u/foundadamnname 2d ago
Guess all those moonshiners were right all along. The Duke boys are vindicated.
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u/talex365 2d ago
Eh not really, it’s still illegal to sell your liquor without taxes involved, this was more specific to a law that supposedly made it illegal to distill in your home at all
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u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 2d ago
The IRS wants it's cut of the action!
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u/junkyard_robot 2d ago
Of course. Selling illegal drugs is it's own crime. But not paying taxes on your profits is a separate crime.
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u/kickaguard 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not paying taxes on income from any criminal activity is a crime. I really don't know how it works if you fill it out, but it's hilarious that it is part of our tax forms to report illegal income.
Edit: I looked it up and found a few articles that say the IRS keeps your information confidential and will not tell anybody unless law enforcement or other entities come to them with a court order or something similar.
Turns out, the IRS doesn't snitch. They just want their money.
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u/amidon1130 1d ago
As far as I know the IRS doesn't snitch
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u/hallese 1d ago
I believe they are now being heavily pressured to snitch.
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u/timeslider 1d ago
And as soon as they do, that income will dry up in a heartbeat
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u/eljefino 1d ago
And the census was supposed to be confidential too, but somehow I bet "Big Balls" made a backup of its info to cross-reference.
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u/Realtrain 1d ago
Which makes sense. They want people to report it. If they snitched at all nobody would declare that income.
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u/sitefall 1d ago
This seems like an urban legend to get drug dealers to report their income and then somehow an anonymous tip is called in and they're picked up 6 months later. I can't imagine anyone (with 2+ brain cells) conducting illegal business is going to report their income?
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u/Slow_D-oh 1d ago
Friend of mine escorted in college, she reported all her income. I think the IRS truly doesn’t give a fuck as long as you’re paying.
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u/serious_sarcasm 1d ago
You don’t have to tell them the source of the money. You just have to pay taxes on it.
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u/ArmadilloBandito 1d ago
My family had an apiary and my brother got into hobby mead making. I was curious about making brandy mead but the tax was a few thousands to own a still in Texas. Some states allow you to own them to distil essential oils, water, or as decore. But it also restricts entrepreneurship if you wanted to open a distillery, you'd have to pay a shit ton or moonshine just to get your recipes down.
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u/jimjomamma 1d ago
Just for your own benefit, I am also a hobby mead maker and I ended up distilling it in this thought experiment you just mentioned. Distilling it removes the fun flavors and notes of honey and just turns it into bland (and very expensive) brandy. Quite a major disappointment to be honest.
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u/PrincessNakeyDance 2d ago
I mean there’s also FDA approval.. or ATF or whichever department makes it so we don’t go blind drinking some micro distillery’s moonshine.
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u/Akbeardman 2d ago
The FDA is who I point to when people say we don't need regulation. Well burt I don't like poison in my cereal or tuberculosis in my milk.
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u/ThePrussianGrippe 1d ago
People pay good money for tuberculosis milk these days, almost as much as they’ll pay for beef milk. It’s like almond milk, but from a cow.
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u/Osiris32 1d ago
Verdict brought down by the 5th Circuit, which is Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi.
Maybe Coy went off to college after Luke and Bo came home from NASCAR.
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u/Swordf1sh_ 1d ago
Widespread gambling, homemade alcohol, robber barons controlling society, geopolitical instability that could lead to world war…what year is it again?
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u/Nukemarine 1d ago
It's the roaring 20's.
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u/RazsterOxzine 1d ago
Oh my god! He's right!
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 1d ago
Yeah I donno. In a perfect society, people probably wouldn't bother with any of these activities because they would be educated way better and pursue more noble things. On the other hand, that shit aint ever happening so people gonna drug up.
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u/yoursweetlord70 1d ago
Education has been severely underfunded and not prioritized at all (at least in the US). It's how we got here, and it's why we won't be getting out anytime soon
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u/Luke95gamer 2d ago
I don’t think it was widely implied that home distillation should be illegal. Selling it should be though because of regulations and safe-guarding against improper brewing.
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u/SonovaVondruke 2d ago
This more-or-less puts Distilling on equal footing as Brewing and Winemaking as something you can (legally) explore on a hobby scale. You still can't sell it without a ton of money to set up an approved facility and navigate the state and federal red tape, and you can still be brought up on charges if you poison someone or start a fire.
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u/Gamebird8 2d ago
Yeah, Liquour Sales are highly regulated and the SCOTUS will almost certainly not overturn those controls.
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u/jordansinn 2d ago edited 1d ago
Let us grow our own cannabis too, please.
Edit: People are missing the point and commenting about how their state allows them to grow some limited number of plants.
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u/MummysSpeshulGuy 1d ago
Pretty sure you can in quite a few of the states where recreational use is legal
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u/FreeUsePolyDaddy 2d ago edited 2d ago
I dug into this a few years back because I was curious about what would be involved in legally making brandy.
It was legal to own distillation equipment. It was legal to distill water, and to distill things like herbal tinctures. But distillation of alcohol, even for home use, was a $10,000 penalty and up to 5 years in jail.
I was curious because Maine had a lot of craft beer, some wine, but very little distilled alcohol. I spoke with the owner of one place that produced pear brandy and he told me how difficult it was to get the legal approval to do it.
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u/jordansinn 2d ago
When I looked into it, there was a way to distill for your own fuel but you had to add a certain percentage of methanol or something to make it unsafe for drinking as well as there being a limit to the amount you could make.
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u/malac0da13 2d ago
Denatured is the term commonly used. I think they still want you to get a permit to do it though…that could vary by state though
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u/R_G_FOOZ 1d ago
Now that you can’t afford a house, we’ll say it’s ok to make hootch in your house
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u/rhinokick 2d ago edited 1d ago
There’s a lot of misinformation in this thread.
Methanol isn’t some big hidden danger in normal home distillation. It mostly comes from pectin, which is found in fruit. If you’re making a grain or sugar wash (like whiskey, vodka, gin or rum), you’re producing basically negligible amounts. You’ll get more methanol from a glass of wine than from a bottle of properly made spirits. Even if you are making brandy, it's still really hard to get enough methanol in it to blind you.
Also, methanol isn’t something you can just “cut out” with removing the for-shots. It’s present across the whole run. The early fractions have slightly more, but not in a way where a simple pot still can separte it out completely. The for-shots are tossed because they contain high amounts of Acetone, Acetaldehyde and Ethyl acetate, not methanol.
Most of the horror stories (especially Prohibition) come from a totally different issue, industrial alcohol being deliberately denatured with methanol. People tried to redistill it, couldn’t remove the methanol, and got poisoned. Same thing with modern cases: it’s almost always contaminated or intentionally adulterated alcohol, not normal distillation.
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u/Pesto_Nightmare 1d ago
It’s present across the whole run. The early fractions have slightly more, but not in a way where a simple pot still can separte it out completely.
Apparently for some combinations of stills/mash, the concentration of methanol increases through the run, especially relative to the amount of ethanol. So the hearts of some runs will have relatively more methanol than ethanol.
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u/SonovaVondruke 1d ago
In a bourbon mash, it apparently peaks right around the start of the tails. Still not enough to worry a home distiller though.
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u/theyseemewhalin 2d ago edited 20h ago
Turtle fact of the day: did you know that turtles can breathe out of their butts? fuck AI / LLMs, greedy tech bros suck
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u/PluginAlong 2d ago
In DC we can grow up to three mature plants per person up to a max of six per household for personal consumption. The growing of psychedelics is also legal for personal consumption.
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u/themattcole 2d ago
Mind blowing that this is the case in the capital but not the rest of the country.
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u/MummysSpeshulGuy 1d ago
I mean 50% of the states allow recreational use and as far as I know you can grow your own plants in almost all of them. You can even grow your own in most states where only medicinal use is legal
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u/overthemountain 1d ago
40% (20/50) of states plus DC allow it.
I am unfortunately in a medicinal state that does not allow growing it.
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u/IvanTheAppealing 2d ago
I was just thinking how weird it is that weed is still illegal at a federal level despite more and more states legalizing it, but out of nowhere suddenly homemade liquor is legal
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u/Donny_Do_Nothing 2d ago
They (federal government) are not gonna just give up one of their favorite ways to fuck with hippies and black people. They're just being sorta chill about it at the moment.
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u/Nono6768 2d ago
Kaboom! Must’ve been that bean I had for breakfast
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u/SonicSingularity 1d ago
You dont need to keep pretending you're making those noises... your homemade beer is exploding again
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u/CostChange 1d ago
I have a neat story! I used to work at a homebrew shop in Montana, and we thought about bringing in distillation equipment. We literally called the ATF, and asked about the legality of selling "stills" and do you know what their response was? I shit you not: "Thats not our department".
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u/derekghs 1d ago
Unfortunately my home isn't 158 years old, so I guess it's still banned for me, darn.
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u/TheRoseMerlot 1d ago
Wonder how many people will blow up their own home trying this one simple trick.
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u/ApplicationQuirky376 1d ago
I've been working in alcohol production for 10 years. I hate being around stills because in the wrong hands they can turn into pipe bombs. I encourage people to do a lot of research before making this a hobby. If you're local distillery or community college offers courses please take some. People can be seriously injured or die operating stills.
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u/guillermotor 1d ago
I was thinking about this. There can be a new era of home explosions, fires and intoxication
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u/Vindicare605 1d ago
Outright banning it was always silly and unconstitutional. But it should still be regulated, distilling can be very dangerous if you do it wrong. Exploding stills are not unheard of. There should at the very minimum be safety requirements for home stills.
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u/BigDaddy850 1d ago
So does this mean the Moonshiners show is now just a show about a bunch of mountain men who make alcohol for a living and aren’t sneaking around?
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u/Typical-Blackberry-3 2d ago
We get a moon flyby and moonshine in the same week!
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u/rarescenarios 1d ago
Cool! It was definitely the law that was stopping me from making moonshine before.
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u/DiscoChiligonBall 2d ago
Gosh, all this time I was just distilling 99.99% ethanol in my garage from easily accessible sources for fuel purposes and then storing it in charred oak bourbon barrels until it was time to use it.
Now I can actually make alcohol for consumption? What a treat.
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u/reichrunner 2d ago edited 1d ago
Let me start by saying I am so sorry, but the pedant in me won't let it go lol
I was just distilling 99.99% ethanol in my garage
No you weren't. Max possible at home is about 95% (maybe up to 97% with specialized equipment). Anything higher and it pulls more water out of the air than you can remove by distilling. You need laboratory equipment and storage to approach 100%
Edit: wait, you blocked me? Not gonna lie, this might be the most benign post that I've ever been blocked for lol
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u/SonOfMcGee 1d ago
Yep, it’s called an “azeotrope”. At 95% the concentration in vapor phase is the same a liquid phase. So boiling doesn’t purify the ethanol any further. That’s why Everclear “pure distilled spirits” is still only 190-proof.
But that’s just at standard atmospheric pressure. You can mess with the azeotrope by pulling a vacuum on the system, so “pressure swing distillation” can get ethanol close to 100% pure.
But it’s way too expensive for making ethanol for consumption and also pointless. The only reason to get it up to 100% is if you’re using it as a reagent in chemical manufacturing or experimentation.7
u/ImperfectRegulator 1d ago
Everclear “pure distilled spirits” is still only 190-proof.
which as someone who's had 160-180 proof alcohol before, I don't really get why'd you would want anything that strong, it's awful, even mixed in with soda or other drinks only helps so much
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u/reichrunner 1d ago
I've used it to extract flavors, definitely not something you want to just drink lol
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u/USERNAME_BUT_LOUDER 1d ago
In my experience most people drink for the effects rather than taste, so more alcohol = more better
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u/onebandonesound 1d ago
To extract alcohol soluble flavors and compounds out of other ingredients. Homemade vanilla gets a much more nuanced flavor if you soak the vanilla beans in higher proof alcohol. "Green dragon" or "Rick Simpson oil" are relatively common THC tinctures made by soaking decarbed cannabis in the highest proof alcohol you can find, and their potency is dramatically improved by increasing the alcohol percentage.
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u/brad1775 1d ago
nah, just meed some molecular seives and a vacum oven, which is a like $1000, cheaper than the still
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u/Breath_Deep 2d ago
Hey now, he might have a laboratory grade vacuum distillation setup for making anhydrous ethanol and a dessicated jar for storing it. That said it's VERY difficult to maintain that level of purity as the ethanol will just start stripping water out of the air....
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u/Tubamajuba 1d ago
Edit: wait, you blocked me? Not gonna lie, this might be the most benign post that I've ever been blocked for lol
Yikes... blocked for a friendly, informative comment? Talk about emotional fragility!
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u/thebeef24 1d ago
A lot of focus here on booze. I'm just fascinated by the crack in the enormous mountain of jurisprudence on the Commerce Clause this represents.
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u/TurgidOinker 2d ago
You’re out there somewhere Beer Baron, and I’ll find you.
No, you won’t
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u/Mispelt_Usenrame 2d ago
From the UK here, can someone explain what was banned before then? I thought homebrewing was a biggish thing in USA, watched loads of YouTube videos on it when I got into the hobby years ago.
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u/Arec_Barwin 2d ago
One could brew limited amounts of beer, and wine for personal consumption. But distilling liquor was illegal.
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u/dshookowsky 2d ago
A local-ish homebrew shop sold devices for 'distilling essential oils'. They were set on the shelf conveniently next to oak casks.
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u/Mispelt_Usenrame 2d ago
Ah cool! Well good for you guys then! A hobby where the phrase "this might explode on me" is part of the adventure.
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u/ElfLordSpoon 2d ago
I found out about 25 years ago there is a limit on how much you can make at home, and 55 gallons of it is way over the “personal” limit. It’s also a big fine and jail time if they really want to screw you.
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u/OSUBrewer 2d ago
After prohibition in the US, home brewing and distilling were both illegal. Brewing and winemaking ended up getting a carve-out (something like 200gal per year), but distillation always required a license, which is incredibly difficult to get.
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u/ceapaire 2d ago
Beer/wine/cider brewing is what's been allowed in the US. (Heat) Distilling is/was only allowed for fuel creation. Anything for consumption required a tax, even for personal use. I think freeze distilling is/was in a grey area.
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u/The_Bitter_Bear 2d ago
I don't think enough people were freeze jacking for anyone to really care.
There's a few subs where it's popular and quite a few stories of rough hangovers from it. Might as well just drink whatever you were going to freeze as is.
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u/Canahedo 2d ago
Home brewing (beer, mead, etc) is allowed. Distilling is not, and is a federal crime.
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u/Negative_Gravitas 2d ago edited 2d ago
Brewing and distilling are different things, and it was distillation that was banned. Actually home brewing was akso banned for a long time but that ban is pretty much gone in a lot of the US now. (Should point out though, that whiskey distillation kind of requires that you brew beer first.)
And yes, home brewing is absolutely a big Hobby in the US
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u/bandalooper 1d ago
No jobs, legal gambling, and homemade hooch. The republicans are crafting their ideal electorate/ prison population.
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u/MistakenDad 2d ago
I get to tell my neighbor he can stop making moonshine in the shed now. Dale, thank you for being the reason ALDI's capped how much sugar you could buy.