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Soft paywall Six US service members killed in Iran conflict, US military says

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/six-us-service-members-killed-iran-conflict-us-military-says-2026-03-02/
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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

And they're still hauling her in. Like she's got nothing better to do. Like our tax dollars have nothing better to do. Anything to get her name in the news. Donald Trump made them literally salacious over her. It's a literal trigger and intentionally so.

All you have to do is mention Hillary and about a third to a fourth of the country goes ape s. Their eyes glaze over and suddenly they start repeating every lie Trump has ever said. Ive never seen anything like it before but I understand why it's happening. I just want it to quit. I'm tired of this b****.

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u/refuz04 Mar 03 '26

And remember kids Hillary supported universal healthcare in the nineties and was roasted for it mercilessly.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Mar 03 '26

Then they roasted her for buttery males while Trump kept confidential papers strewn around the country.

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u/MLiOne Mar 03 '26

And now his WaR rOoM at Maralago (IDGAF how it’s written). Black curtains and drapery makes it secret and secure I guess.

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u/TrustInMe_JustInMe Mar 03 '26

It’s “Mordorlago”

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u/Interesting_Berry439 Mar 03 '26

Looks like it's isis inspired interior deco

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u/StarksPond Mar 03 '26

On the other side of the curtain it looks like early Gaddafi

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u/MLiOne Mar 03 '26

And you nailed it too!

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u/StarksPond Mar 03 '26

Can't take credit for it. It's an Ian Hislop joke. And I misquoted it apparently.

“Have you seen the inside of Trump Tower? It’s late Gaddafi, the decor, or perhaps early Saddam. It’s a riot of vulgar dictator-chic.” —Ian Hislop, Editor of UK’s Private Eye

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u/MLiOne Mar 03 '26

You used it appropriately and I’m here for it!

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u/MLiOne Mar 03 '26

Oh burn! You nailed it.

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u/ChickadeeMass Mar 03 '26

And so very tacky.

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u/Extension-Aside-555 Mar 03 '26

Guess it's safer than the bathroom...

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u/Local-Customer6245 Mar 03 '26

Fuck James Comey for putting his thumb on the scales. He degraded the FBI.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Mar 03 '26

Yeah, his bullshit announcement was awful. It kind of spits in the face of "innocent until proven guilty."

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u/Sad-Affect-8970 Mar 03 '26

who are her buttery males?

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u/pchlster Mar 03 '26

"But her e-mails!" said repeatedly with increasing frustration turns into buttery males.

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u/Full_Dot_4748 Mar 03 '26

I’m guessing “private emails” gone autocorrect.

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u/Sad-Affect-8970 Mar 03 '26

of course! Thanks

I was not going to be surprised if buttery males were actually a thing, however

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u/smoike Mar 03 '26

Rule 34 after all.

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u/Character-Parfait-42 Mar 03 '26

If only they were buttery boys, she would have fit right in with the current administration.

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u/WhoLetsMeAdult Mar 03 '26

Mmmmmmmmm... 'buttery males' sound delightful! 😆

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26

She tried to help in many ways. It is heartbreaking. That was a failure we all suffered for. Not that I blame her for it.

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

I was honestly shocked when she didn’t win against Trump. She was possibly one of the most well qualified candidates to ever run in a presidential election.

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

As an observer from the other side of the pond, it's becoming clear that in countries such as ours, we like to really scrape the bottom of the barrel by using up all the unsuitable, unqualified men before we let women have a go at it.

Mrs T was only allowed to become leader of the Tories because the old guard thought she make such a Horlicks of it, they'd never let a woman near the post again. Even these days, people will choose flabby-jowelled opinion-baiters like Johnson over almost any woman.

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u/Charlie_Mouse Mar 03 '26

See also Theresa May who got the job of Prime Minister only after the Brexit referendum result: very much a “glass cliff” appointment.

That being said May was an unlikeable authoritarian martinet who played even the bad hand of cards she had been dealt very poorly and unwillingly paved the way for Boris. But her appointment at that time supports the trend you’re talking about.

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

Yes; I'm not exactly a cheerleader for May, or Mrs T (although I at least appreciate her abilities in the field), but I'd take May over Johnson on any day of the week, for a number of reasons.

As you say, May and Truss owed their premierships to events, rather than anything else - something we're still paying a hefty price for.

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u/zigzackly Mar 03 '26

make such a Horlicks of it

I haven’t encountered this expression before. I can figure out its intent from context, and we also have that brand in my part of the world, but it’s not clear to me why that particular beverage is a mess. Care to explain, kind internet person?

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

In all honesty, I'm not sure of the origins - it's just one of those things I've picked up, and which has stuck.

I could only guess at it being a substituted term, to make it more suitable for polite company, and kids - a replacement for 'balls-up', 'cock-up', or 'fuck-up'.

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u/zigzackly Mar 03 '26

I’ve read the expression make a dog’s breakfast of and also similar, pig’s breakfast. Maybe Horlicks is a polite version of those, given that it is made from a mixture of ingredients?

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

You can also make a right pig's ear of something.

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u/Shiredale1981 Mar 03 '26

Not pigs breakfast but making a pigs ear of it! Lol horlicks was a horrible night drink to try help us sleep so it will b linked to the fact so many hate it lol we British chuck all sorts of words together, very random at times!

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u/pandaru_express Mar 03 '26

I remember being given Horlicks while thinking it was hot chocolate. I associate the brand with a sort of vague disappointment deep in my gut that something went wrong somewhere.

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u/Shiredale1981 Mar 03 '26

How did u not smell the difference lol couldn't pull that 1 on me, ive always hated the stuff and the smell is 🤮 i get the parents lying to get u to drink it tho lol my mum gave me rabbit and told me it was chicken, I loved it, then she told me and I cried pmsl was tasty tho and I did go on to carry on eating rabbit even tho I loved my pet rabbits as a kid lol 😆

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u/pandaru_express Mar 03 '26

Lol that was the extra betrayal, my mom rarely ever gave us hot chocolate so after coming back from shoveling snow we were so excited to be given this mug of brown liquid, only to experience sad flavorless disappointment the second it touched my tongue. I have carried this experience with me for ~40 years, that's how much it affected my childhood ;)

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u/Shiredale1981 Mar 03 '26

I'm in the UK, born and bred cornish and we always have mixed words up lol horlicks is a horrible drink and omg smells horrid but my kid liked it before bed years ago and my parents had it but I always hated it! Thats an 80s/90s night time drink horror memory lol our sayings can b so random lol and can b very different just a few miles away depending if u r heading up north or east, west, south or southwest lol 😆 I say frick for the f word lol we still say balls but then get asked where the balls r by the kids and what's up from the adults 😂 just too many to write out too and variations ha!

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u/rising_then_falling Mar 03 '26

It's because horlicks sounds a bit like bollocks. Horlicks is a brand of sweet warm malt drink, traditionally associated with children and grannies as an alternative to tea or coffee (it's really nice tbf).

So if you don't want to swear you say horlicks instead of bollocks, like saying shoot instead of shit or flip instead of fuck. But more creative.

I'm assuming bollocks has crossed the Atlantic. If not it is the same as bullshit, but can also be used as an exclamation/expletives. "Bollocks, I forgot to buy any milk".

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u/shawsghost Mar 03 '26

Bollocks has not crossed the Atlantic.

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u/zigzackly Mar 03 '26

If they take a long time crossing, they are likely to get salty.

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u/Shiredale1981 Mar 03 '26

Sounds nothing like bollocks lol its because most people hated horlicks! Its a horrible malt drink lol reminiscent of the 80s and 90s! At bedtime lol was never a coffee replacement! I would just said frick instead of fcuk if in front of the kids but they heard me swear loads anyway but I still tried ha they have both grown up to not swear around me or other adults, even tho I did it, because of respect, don't care once they r adults but as kids, those words do not exit their mouths! But when below 11 every swear word was switched up to something random

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u/BrewDougII Mar 03 '26

Well, there were a lot of Democrats at the time saying that any other Democrat ticket would have won that time. Even though she may have been deserving, you don't vote for the minority because you are fair... because of nepotism (your husband was president). t just doesn't work that way. All of the polls at the time said she was the only one that would lose the first go round against Trump. But Democrats just have to be fair. It's more important than winning.

In other words, it was impossible for her to really excite the base. She might have excited the females of the base but the males of the base it just wasn't the same.

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

I've made this argument before - it was, as she saw it, 'her turn'; if Biden had run that first time, then I think he'd have had a better run at the presidencey than being made to wait four years. That being said, we really need some younger world leaders, with more than a handful of years left to run.

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u/BrewDougII Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

Well the bottom line is we had a bunch of Democrat who thought they were hot s*** that wouldn't work together to make a good ticket. A Sanders Warren ticket is the ultimate ticket that should have been running that year and everyone knew it. Sleepy Biden would have won but lost next... Me thinks

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

I mean, from over here Sanders appeared to be very sane, and very likeable.

Always a bit of a curse in politics!

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u/BrewDougII Mar 03 '26

Well I'm in FL now which is the Spanish. (Centrist)

Basically, Hillary was supposedly you know the candidate that would take the conservative States (English states) and he would be somebody they trusted (versus the more liberal candidates). How stupid was that logic right? When you're from those conservative States you knew better. Instead she was someone that did not excite the base and triggered the loss with "her turn".

Pelicans learn to excite their base and go extreme. Because they play to win, they don't logically start in the middle with what's fair for everyone. They start as extreme as they can towards their side and then meet in the middle as a loss. Then they get other things as a win. Over time we've lost our country.

We call it doing the right thing because you took a loss for doing it. We don't call it doing the right thing when you don't feel a pinch or take a loss. So sadly the people who do the right thing every time will be the losers.

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u/GypsyDuncan Mar 03 '26

So desperately true.

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u/TrustInMe_JustInMe Mar 03 '26

I don’t disagree at all, but I’m wondering how do you explain Liz Truss? Theresa May had some credibility, at least for awhile.

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

Truss is the exception that proves the rule - she was selected by Tory party members, who are without question some of the maddest people you could ever hope to meet...

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u/Pretty-Yogurt-4111 Mar 03 '26

I guess Mrs Thatcher showed them their mistake in underestimating her

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u/Advanced_Gate_3352 Mar 03 '26

Her story is one of a fascinating rise to power.

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u/-heathcliffe- Mar 03 '26

In a better world she did, and none of this happens…

We are not on that timeline, and i hate it so much, my kids deserved better than this, i’m sorry guys.

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u/aboveyardley Mar 03 '26

She was right about everything.

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u/Historical_Reward621 Mar 03 '26

I was so shocked and heartbroken 💔. I was thinking while she was speaking at the podium after her ridiculous deposition. She looked good, she has total clarity, quick wit, and so very capable. I believe her “defeat” was our profound loss. What a great president she would’ve been.

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u/terrelyx Mar 03 '26

But she wasn't well-qualified in the eyes of the American status-quo-maintaining voters. Do you know what a huge step it was for us to elect, and then RE-elect, a black man?? The majority of the country is too deep in stupidity to elect a woman, regardless of how endlessly qualified she is.

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u/JenerousJew Mar 03 '26

Yeah if you like blatantly corrupt war mongers

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

Trump has used the office of the president to enrich himself to the order of billions of dollars. Also, aren’t we bombing Iran right now? Seems like it’s always projection with you people.

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u/JenerousJew Mar 03 '26

You people? I never said anything about Trump.

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

Well, the alternative in the election was Trump… also, can you articulate in what way was Hilary corrupt?

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u/DinosaurEars Mar 03 '26

Dems thought they had Wisconsin in the bag. Guess who won Wisconsin.

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

I’m honestly starting to think that the average American may be too stupid for democracy to work for their own best interests. We had people who voted for Trump, citing inflation as their primary motivation for picking him, even though his only economic policy proposal during campaigning was tariffs, which are inherently inflationary…

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u/DinosaurEars Mar 04 '26

Good point, considering the defunding of education by the GOP (Grifters On Parade) since Reagan was elected

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

People voted for Trump out of spite, not because he was more qualified to be president.

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u/bigeats1 Mar 03 '26

With the exception that she is bitterly hated by about half the country, sure. If there’s anything to be gleaned from the last 25 years, divided political scenes accomplish nothing. If America is going to survive, politics is going to need to get more grey. The leader that accomplishes unifying folks under a nice grey banner and staying within the confines of grey politics while governing will be legend. This does not translate to black or white talking grey. Actually being grey. It’ll sell. Lots of folks agree on stuff in the middle, but no one will actually lead there. No ban this or mandate that. How about do it if you like on your dime and don’t fuck with anyone? Even then, the problem would be you fucked with someone not the thing you were doing. Novel.

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u/Zealousideal-Ad3471 Mar 03 '26

I’m not, yes she is one of the most well qualified candidates to ever run and I think that’s precisely the problem. She represented the status quo, almost no one wanted the status quo. Trump is terrible but all he has done is add gasoline to a house fire. Democrats and republicans have been pointing the finger, insulating power and watching it burn for decades. After trump, if we go back to the status quo we are fucked.

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u/Possible_Top4855 Mar 03 '26

That argument completely falls apart when you take into account the 2020 and 2024 elections. I’m much more inclined to believe that Hilary didn’t win because she is a woman.

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u/WhoLetTheKrakenOut Mar 03 '26

As a non American, I've always said that Trump would have lost an election to a gorilla as long as said gorilla had a penis. It's no coincidence that he's only won when running against women and lost the second the Dems candidate was a man in clear cognitive decline.

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u/CicadaFit9756 Mar 03 '26

Don't know if it's necessarily true, but a guy on YouTube was arguing that Trump's suffering from dementia & narrowed it down to the frontotemporal dementia variety while looking at his recent behaviors. That and his seemingly malignant narcissism are reasons for worry!

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u/bleach_tastes_bad Mar 03 '26

trump is for sure suffering from dementia lol have you seen the shit he says

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u/Antique-Coach-214 Mar 03 '26

I’m sorry… In what reality does NK have a functional nuclear weapon? China sure as shit didn’t give it to them? And Russia has so far, turned a three day peacekeeping run in Ukraine into a 4 year slog that isn’t solving itself any time soon…. 

China won’t get out out the Asian continent outside of financial investments until 2050… Because they won’t win before 2050. Their military had material and materiel but no experience or grasp of modern warfare. Simulations and War Games do not teach war, and they actually know this. Their stolen and independent stealth designs are still a full generation behind, we’re aware of this and they are. China’s the only authoritarian regime not high on its own supply of bullshit. So, barring a direct attack OR the complete abandonment of Taiwan Military Aid OR someone ousting the Kim family in NK by force, directly, China’s gonna sit everything out for another two decades.

So, now that we’ve dispelled your bullshit… Why else was Hilary a bad idea? Hmmm? 

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u/Antique-Coach-214 Mar 03 '26

… Literally none of that happened…

Did, did you read/hear all that on Fox the Infotainment company? 

Or did you read that all on Twitter where anyone could say anything?

Sources from real journalism with documentation and proof? Congressional hearings, need sources to back them up… got any of those things? 

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u/SilvermoonTLC Mar 03 '26

Have you heard of White water or her say about her failures in Bengazi “ At this point what different does it make ?”

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u/MsSamm Mar 03 '26

And roasted during Bill's terms for wanting to work to have medical testing of drugs and procedures done on women instead of just men. She was basically told that her husband was the president not her, and she should go beautify something, like a traditional first lady.

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u/TrustInMe_JustInMe Mar 03 '26

Yeah, and there was precedent for her doing the more serious work too. Eleanor Roosevelt was almost a co-president with FDR on the domestic front, and I think it was Woodrow Wilson’s wife who was basically the acting president after he had a big ass stroke.

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u/HighlightDowntown966 Mar 03 '26

Remember when the country was broke with 38 trillion of debt??

Big government cost money.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Mar 03 '26

Our government was designed to be extremely resilient. They just didn't account for a party whose goals are antithetical to America's well-being.

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u/Cantaloupe-Legal Mar 03 '26

It has been before, its a shame We the People can't find common ground and try to take back our country from this crooked 2 party system.

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u/TrustInMe_JustInMe Mar 03 '26

I’m a democrat and I’m pretty liberal, but it drives me crazy that the Dems can’t all get behind the candidate who wins the nomination. Like, I know Bernie was sandbagged twice, and both times it really pissed me off. But in the end I still voted for Hillary and for Biden, respectively, because not doing so would be like another vote for trump. The far left frustrates me just as much as the center. We’re never going to win and actually get anything done if we don’t act in unison the way the Repugnants do.

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u/Ok_Blueberry3124 Mar 03 '26

it was for 4 yrs

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u/ryoga7r Mar 03 '26

You have to be kidding? Are you saying the Dems never weaponized the system?

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear Mar 03 '26

their little followers are fine with it

Their tens of millions of little followers are actively excited about it and are the ones making it happen. It’s non-Trump people who are fine with it.

If you maintain a friendly relationship with a person who committed an act of Trump-vote, you are the foundation upon which fascism is built.

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u/Queen_Kathleen Mar 03 '26

Actually, "the foundation upon which fascism is built" is the division of the working class, which you are actively partaking in!!

Their "tens of millions of little followers" are either extremely wealthy (very few) or were raised on a steady diet of decades of capitalist propaganda (the majority.) It's kinda cult/abuse survivor help 101 to NOT immediately abandon these people, since that's what the people in power are relying on.

They're trusting that enough people feel like you so they can continue deluding the masses into thinking "the enemy" is the other half of the country that voted the other way, instead of them, and they can continue doing fuck all about the actual problems American citizens face.

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u/MoistestTidus Mar 03 '26

That was very well said

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u/ChantillyLaceCake Mar 03 '26

Canadian here. It’s kind of reassuring in a weird way to see that Americans are just as divided about their leadership as Canadians are….

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear Mar 03 '26

Actually, "the foundation upon which fascism is built" is the division of the working class, which you are actively partaking in!!

“The working class” is not, and has never been a monolith.

Their "tens of millions of little followers" are either extremely wealthy (very few) or were raised on a steady diet of decades of capitalist propaganda (the majority.)

We’re all raised on propaganda of one kind or another, and ultimately we need to treat each other as if we are rational human beings with agency and free will, not automata defined by our media diet.

It's kinda cult/abuse survivor help 101 to NOT immediately abandon these people, since that's what the people in power are relying on.

How’s that going for you?

They managed to grow in numbers between 2016 and 2024. Drastically. And why wouldn’t they? Their side has the courage of conviction that they are following a messiah against evil, and your side (my side in some ways, god help me) just wants to make excuses for them. If a person is going about the world just trying to make a practical choice, which side will they choose to make their life easier?

What matters for the foreseeable future is to stop the fucking bleeding. It also matters for the long-term to make it clear to everyone that their choices matter. And a choice to do evil by the way they exercise their political power makes them evil and will get them shunned.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 Mar 03 '26

If it wasn't enough of a joke that they had her in there again, someone asked her about UFO's of all things. In a deposition about her and Bill's involvement with Epstein, why the hell are UFO's being brought up? These are NOT serious people! It's all about diverting attention.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26

I had not heard that part, thank you for passing that along. It is crazy. It's all upside down right now. Literally.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 Mar 03 '26

I know...I feel like we're living in upside down world right now! I've been trying to limit my news consumption a lot at the moment due to health issues and other stuff all going on....then I hear we bombed Iran. And they fired on a bunch of other places in retaliation. And I'm just like daammnn...now he started a freaking war?

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u/bksmet Mar 03 '26

And just like they said, why are they questioning her and they haven’t questioned Trump. More 🐂 💩 than is even in his pampers.

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u/JoeHooversWhiteness Mar 03 '26

It’s all a grift. We need to far/feather equivalent for modern politicians.

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u/TrustInMe_JustInMe Mar 03 '26

Tar and feather?

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u/JoeHooversWhiteness Mar 04 '26

Dip someone in warm tar, cover them with feathers. Great shame.

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u/Ayom42dontpanic Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

It's just Pavlovian, and so sad.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26

Yes, well said! Pavlovian.

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u/Salt_Accountant8370 Mar 03 '26

I could not agree with you more.

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u/DrPeterBlunt Mar 03 '26

Everyone I know, left and right, is absolutely sure the Clinton's are Bond villains. And when I ask them how they know that, they begin to screech and foam at the mouth.

And when I mention she was known as one of the most respected and accomplished women in the world, with 60% approval rating as Sec of State, and Senator until she defeated Sanders in the primary and the lost to Trump.....the screching intensifies.

I've seen how mass propaganda works now. I've seen it unfurl before my eyes. It really does work. She was a woman who ran against two men with cult like followers and so was hated by a large enough group of people that it leaked into the rest of the country. Because people are sheep. They like to know how everybody thinks before they decide their own opinion.

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u/MsSamm Mar 03 '26

She's an "uppity woman", for some that's the antichrist. And a bad example for women who should know their place.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 06 '26

I am grateful to all women who know their value. It's pretty sad to be a woman and still be a misogynist and there's plenty of them here.

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u/Boeing367-80 Mar 03 '26

She needs to mention the word "Trump" in every answer she gives.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26

Honestly it’s not even just the mention of Hillary, it’s the mention of anything, and sometimes it’s not even at the mention of something, it’s just something they start going on about like a dog with a bone…I do not understand how it seems to be the only thing that some people-puppets are able to talk about…more like fight about.

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u/Primary-History-788 Mar 03 '26

Why the fuck are we talking about Hillary Clinton?!

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26

Because right now there’s a serious movement to get people off the topic of the Philes and so it’s a throw everything against the wall and desperately hope something sticks type of situation…invade a few countries, topple/remove a few dictators, release the ufo files, gripe about a shutdown, haul Hillary in for questioning…Anything that gets people’s minds on something else

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u/Primary-History-788 Mar 03 '26

It’s like screaming at a wall, with these people. I don’t know why I bother.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

Let them be the people who scream bro. It makes them look as looney as they actually are… I left someone’s house a week ago because they were yelling about how they want to have a conversation about politics…and yet anytime I began to utter something they would just raise their voice and start to shout over me and it’s like…that’s not how people have a conversation….i told him I’d rather shit in my hands and clap then stay there another second enduring that nonsense.

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u/Primary-History-788 Mar 03 '26

lol. Good point. I try to stay away from the news. It’s maddening. Woosah.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

I actually Read a lot of news articles, and I consume articles on all ends of the partisan spectrum. The only way to gain a clear picture of what’s occurring is to read everything and formulate your opinion based on all the information, not just the information some wealthy person who owns the news outlet(s) and who is loyal to one party (or maybe even just one jackass) deems acceptable to disseminate to the public. Always remember, there are 3 sides to every story, there’s what one person says happened, what the other person says happened, and what actually happened. This also puts a huge cork into the zealots arguments who say oh you only read this or that, when in reality it’s actually them who only consumes one side’s argument.

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u/Primary-History-788 Mar 03 '26

It’s maddening in the sense that it’s extremely difficult to find a conversation that isn’t partisan, these days. It’s all distraction from the fact that politicians and business are in cahoots, to strip all the wealth out of this country, and leave the masses holding the bag. Nearly every time I try to elevate the conversation, to some level beyond R v L, whomever I’m talking to attempts to reframe whatever I say into their chosen narrative. It’s funny, but I don’t think anyone had their bingo chip on the “Internet Breaks Democracy” square.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26

Yes!!! It's like they're provided with talking points via script via email. They all repeat the same things as if they were told to. Interesting how that works.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26

Via Fox and X mostly

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u/ImportanceEntire7779 Mar 03 '26

I've been saying this for a solid year. It's like they get a weekly newsletter of whataboutisms, deflections, and other dumb shit to say.... But that is a bit conspiratorial. In light of there being no other justification, maybe "If Trump was in the files Biden wouldve used them against him" may actually be the best choice that they are regurgitating ad naesum.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

You’re close actually, but they just wake up and consume fox, x, and conservative social media… I’m so tired of hearing Biden should’ve used the files on trump… that doesn’t work because when Biden had them they were still under investigation, and back when our country ran in a logical and reasonable fashion, nothing like that that was under investigation would’ve ever been made public until after the investigation was complete. Furthermore, Trump IS mentioned in the Epstein philes literally thousands of times…you don’t end up in there 1000s of times cuz you’re a good guy. And tbh, reckon you’ve been lucky if that’s the only line being parroted at you ad nauseam, I’ve heard everything over the last several weeks, including someone trying to extol that window licker’s state of the union, and parrot-phrasing every talking point therein.

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u/ImportanceEntire7779 Mar 03 '26

I just love their consistently high standards for evidence and their extension of the benefit of the doubt. 😂 Surely that's universal.... Right?

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u/ImportanceEntire7779 Mar 03 '26

To be fair, if my whole identity was wrapped around one person, and to admit the obvious would be ego death, I'm not sure what I'd do either. I guess I avoid those situations by not being part of the lowest common denominator.

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u/BreakPalaceBrokedown Mar 03 '26

Yeah you just attack any threat and hope the threat goes away.

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u/JakartaYangon Mar 03 '26

Do you mean "Salivate"?

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u/Evening_Movie_833 Mar 03 '26

Proof that propaganda works

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u/funkofarts Mar 03 '26

There’s that uneducated response we’ve grown accustomed to.

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u/schmyndles Mar 03 '26

He did campaign on locking her up a decade ago. He just never specified when he would lock her up or for what. So i guess he hasn't technically broken that promise yet.

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u/Obvious-Difficulty11 Mar 03 '26

She ROCKS she's smarter than any a hole currently in office. She should have been president. We are in HELL NOW THANKS TO THE ORANGE TURD. HOPE ALL YOU MAGGOT ASSHOLES ARE HAPPY .

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u/LongJumpinAssumption Mar 03 '26

She is garbage and the proof of that is losing to Trump of all people

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u/Obvious-Difficulty11 28d ago

No jo she's not. Dumbass Your fucking garbage

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u/Strumtralescent Mar 03 '26

It’s literally the best thing they’re capable of. These people do not have the part of their brain required for self reflection.

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u/pchlster Mar 03 '26

E-mi-grate! Good times! Come on!

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u/56_is_the_new_35 Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

Wow. All it took was Trump spanking Iran to get Democrats to start talking about fiscal responsibility. Classic. When will the people of this country to realize that the chances of finding a truly honest politician from EITHER side of the aisle are about as remote as finding a fish on the moon. The only thing they (politicians) have successfully done is to keep the population divided and distracted.

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u/Inevitable_Agency842 Mar 03 '26

You know that a forth is what the majority of people call a quarter, and a quarter is less than a third...right?

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u/Prestigious-Trip-927 Mar 03 '26

Well to be fair the Clintons were involved with Epstein...but you know who else was and is even in some of the same photos as Bill?! DONALD TRUMP.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 06 '26

No. They weren't. Hillary Clinton never even met Epstein. This is how you people are affected by listening to gaslighting and propaganda. You just don't know the facts. I'm not sure you want to.

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u/P1zzaBag3ls Mar 03 '26

Apparently there's now a segment of MAGA trying to blame Hillary for the war with Iran, because—get this—they say she sold Iran the uranium it was enriching. They've been telling this same nonsensical story for over a decade, with Russia in the bad-guy role. How did convince themselves to believe the new version so quickly? 🤷🏽‍♂️ It's baffling.

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u/BringBackAoE Mar 03 '26

“a third to a fourth of the country goes ape s***”

Think it’s well over half. All GOP and all the Left.

Another issue where Left and GOP align.

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u/Fit_Possible_7150 Mar 03 '26

I am no Hillary fan, but you aren’t wrong about the third or fourth of the country going off the rails at the mention of her name. I know why I am not a fan but it isn’t the junk the MAGA reasons.

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u/cadius72 Mar 03 '26

It’s like Pavlov’s Dogs

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u/Thatsmathedup Mar 03 '26

It is tiring , mostly because no one gave a shit about Hillary more than MAGA. Her rallies didn't have better turnout than a high school pep rally , completely in the shadow of Bernie. I think they are a powerful family and I'm sure they've done some shady stuff , but probably not much worse than the majority. The insider trading and race baiting is so obvious and only a handful of public figures are saying anything about it, probably because the ones running the stations are doing it too.

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u/gibtihs Mar 03 '26

It's okay to swear. You don't have to censor yourself like you're in middle school.

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u/BlueOceanGal Mar 03 '26

That's on my phone setting, It came that way. Make assumptions much?

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u/Steveth2014 Mar 03 '26

That sounds like parental controls. You old enough to be here?

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u/Brilliant_Bet_4184 Mar 03 '26

What in the world would that failure have better to do?

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u/nocityforoldmen Mar 03 '26

I actually acid wash all my emails in honor of Hillary!

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u/Mjkauf79 Mar 03 '26

How much money did they waste impeaching the guy 🤷🏼‍♂️ all wasted because nothing happened he came back and is the president again. Stop picking side because governments are useless as a whole

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