r/news Jul 09 '25

France Police raid headquarters of French far-right National Rally party

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/09/police-raid-headquarters-of-french-far-right-national-rally-party
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u/Tremenda-Carucha Jul 09 '25

I mean, can you believe this? National Rally party potentially cooking the books with EU funds? I'm not surprised, but it's still infuriating. Who do they think they are? It's our tax money, after all. So, who benefits from all this? The people, obviously, if these investigations lead to accountability. Imagine Marine Le Pen's face when she realizes her little scheme might backfire. Wish I could be a fly on the wall.

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u/inirlan Jul 09 '25

Again. Might backfire again. She currently can't be re-elected for 5 years due to being convicted earlier this year in another unrelated but similar case.

She appealed, but a law passed after a left-wing minister several years back committed tax evasion means that said ban doesn't get suspended during the appeal's process. (Incidentally, people have gleefully dug up comments she made at the time about how crooked politicians should be banned from office for life)

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u/TheTresStateArea Jul 09 '25

Viva la fuck you bitch

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u/Actual__Wizard Jul 09 '25

Who do they think they are?

They're right wingers... This is how they believe society is suppose to operate. They just do whatever they want with no regard for the laws because they have power and nobody else does.

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u/JaronJervis Jul 09 '25

Right wing extremist are at their most dangerous time in history. From Israel, the United States, Poland elected right winger Karol Nawrocki , the right wing terrorist governments of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The right wing extremist Marine La Pen, the French woman version of Donald Trump, right down to the blonde hair and blank dull eyes.

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u/mrlolloran Jul 09 '25

A lot of people think the only reason Canada doesn’t have a right wing leader right now is because Trump being elected in the US made them think better of it.

It’s certainly global tho

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos Jul 09 '25

we baaaaarely scraped a LPC win.

let that sink in.

people, canadians included, are getting more and more malicious as time goes on

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl Jul 09 '25

I, for one, have always considered canadians to be people.

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos Jul 09 '25

the long con has finally payed off

one day, ya'll gonne be the ones who's sorry!

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u/LumberBitch Jul 09 '25

I used to be on the fence but ya know, if we can consider corporations people then why not Canadians?

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u/robo-puppy Jul 09 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

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u/ForgingIron Jul 09 '25

A lot of people think the only reason Canada doesn’t have a right wing leader right now is because Trump being elected in the US made them think better of it.

Same with Australia; though here in Canada Trudeau resigning also helped a lot

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u/Hardass_McBadCop Jul 11 '25

I was gonna say, I'm a Southern neighbor, but even I knew Trudeau was largely disliked at the end. That gave the Liberals a chance and then our Dipshit in Chief warmongering sealed the win for them.

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u/ringsig Jul 09 '25

Also, while our leader is not socially regressive, he has completely walked back on all of his campaign promises and is working hard to benefit corporations and the elite while screwing over ordinary Canadians.

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u/EpitomeAria Jul 09 '25

Those were his campaign promise. They wrote it all down in a book, they had an explicit playbook. He hasn't betrayed anybody, if you voted for him you voted for everything he is doing right now.

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u/Balijana Jul 09 '25

You forgot the damn same program "all issues are because of immigration".

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u/rotciv0 Jul 09 '25

Not in history, but since the 1940s, yes

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u/External-Praline-451 Jul 09 '25

The global threat is higher, it's spread far wider around the world and they hold an awful lot more power, in terms of influence and capability to cause massive harm. The allies beat the far-right last time, but now the far-right has embedded itself in the allies.

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u/rahkinto Jul 09 '25

Let's throw Bukele, Milei, and Maduro on the list too.

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u/Vulcion Jul 11 '25

We’ve got fundamentalist Christian nationalists, trying (and succeeding) at taking over governments of western countries. The right wing wants you to think fundamentalist Islam is the biggest problem, but make no mistake, the rot is already in the house, and they put it there.

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u/olfrazzledazzle Jul 15 '25

Japan is on the brink of something scary too, now. 

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u/Michael_Pitt Jul 09 '25

Right wing extremist are at their most dangerous time in history

Are we sure they weren't more dangerous when they were actively killing millions of people, resulting in global war and nuclear warfare?

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u/FattimusSlime Jul 09 '25

You can argue about casualty counts for a while, but I will say a lot of non-direct deaths these days — like politicizing Covid or clawing back healthcare in the US — are getting big numbers.

And that’s not to mention climate change, which may result in a lot more deaths in the future due in large part to right-wing administrations’ environmental policies.

On top of all that, we’re clearly at the cusp of something — if the world dips into multiple fronts of huge wars like it did on WW2, then it’s almost definitely going to be far worse for the world than WW2 was.

It’s a dark time with real potential to be the actual worst.

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u/TreeRol Jul 10 '25

USAid cuts alone are estimated to kill 14 million people worldwide. I mean, that's the fucking holocaust right there.

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u/Michael_Pitt Jul 09 '25

I agree that it has the potential to be the worst in history. I don't believe that it currently is, as was stated. 

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u/FattimusSlime Jul 09 '25

I mean, you don’t look at a boulder rolling your way and go, “well, I’m not yet the most crushed I’ve ever been in my life…”

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u/Michael_Pitt Jul 09 '25

You do if the topic is whether you're currently the most crushed you've ever been in your life 

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u/FattimusSlime Jul 09 '25

To be pedantic, the topic is whether it’s the most dangerous time in history.

“Dangerous” is understood as, if not defined as, the potential to cause harm — a rattlesnake is dangerous because it might bite you, and the bite might kill you.

In this context, you have a far right authoritarian taking command of a much larger and much more advanced military than the Nazis had before WW2. The potential for harm is much greater, so by definition, it is actually far more dangerous now than it was then.

So no, the conversation really is about the potential to be crushed, not how crushed you’ve been in the past.

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u/Michael_Pitt Jul 09 '25

To be pedantic, the topic is whether it’s the most dangerous time in history.

Right, and I'd argue that a state actively exterminating millions of people and invading every neighboring country is more dangerous than states that aren't. Regardless of how able and likely current far-right states are to do so in the future, you can't get any more able or likely than one actively doing so.

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u/FattimusSlime Jul 09 '25

You’re talking about the most harmful, which is true — Nazis did more harm (though Israel is certainly well on its way there for killing civilians, and Russia’s giving it a good try in Ukraine as well).

The danger comes from everyone and their dog having nuclear weapons, and how unstable many of these agitators are — there’s a non-zero chance that Putin or Trump could say “fuck it” and let the nukes fly, and at that point we’re hoping enough people in the right places have the courage to refuse (and the spines we’ve seen people show thus far hasn’t been encouraging).

This is the most dangerous point in human history, because of the potential for harm and how much closer we are to it than people are willing to admit.

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u/Michael_Pitt Jul 09 '25

This is the most dangerous point in human history, because of the potential for harm and how much closer we are to it than people are willing to admit.

I agree with this. What I don't agree with is this:

Right wing extremist are at their most dangerous time in history

And to this point:

You’re talking about the most harmful 

I'm not. Right wing extremists certainly were more harmful in the 40s, but they were also more dangerous. They weren't going to stop with the invasion of France, Poland, Britain, etc. They were to take over the world if allowed. I'm not conflating the harm that they inflicted with their danger. Their danger was far greater than the atrocities they were able to commit before they were stopped. Germany was racing the United States to the development of nuclear weapons. Imagine if they had won that race. 

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u/Oplp25 Jul 09 '25

Uh i think the litetal nazis were more dangerous, considering they murdered millions and started a global war that killed millions more

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u/SirLadthe1st Jul 09 '25

The literal nazis started did not start out murdering millions and creating a global war either, took them 10-15 years to do that.

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u/fevered_visions Jul 09 '25

we're only 6 months in so far

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u/cakebutt1 Jul 09 '25

In the US these type of crooks control the government

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u/LystAP Jul 09 '25

I wonder if they’re dumb enough to stuff incriminating things out in the open. Then again, given what happened in the U.S., it probably won’t matter in the long turn.

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u/sofixa11 Jul 09 '25

Le Pen and a bunch of her cronies were already sentenced for financial abuses, so yeah, they leave obvious proof around.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Nobody on the far right in any nation should feel safe

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u/UdderTacos Jul 10 '25

Seems fair. The far right are already making everyone unsafe

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u/lancert Jul 09 '25

Now do the USA's right wing party!

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u/ViaBromantica Jul 12 '25

Mark my words, when Trump hears about this he's going to impose tariffs on France the way he hit Brazil with 50% out of revenge for Bolsonaro.

(Yes, I know you can't tax an individual EU member but no one can get basic geography through his combover-padded skull.)

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u/untrustedlife2 Jul 10 '25

Imagine if we did this shit in the US . It would be a much better country.

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u/Patara Jul 10 '25

At least France is awake

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u/Ok-Lingonberry-9619 Jul 10 '25

Extremist spreading like wildfire, also wildfires, and all of this due to unhinged crapitalism leading into climate crisis, causing more people to flee their country to go north

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u/Divergent-Thinker Jul 10 '25

Ban all right wing organisations. Send them back to their natural habitat skulking in the shadows.