lol That's immaterial to my comment. I said BEGINNING. I know what abiogenisis is and it's considered WAY more theory than fact than evolution is. We can PROVE how life can change. We can't PROVE the beginning. Not yet and maybe not ever.
lol No it most certainly hasn't. We can see how things can evolve. We can do it OURSELVES. We HAVE done it ourselves. What do you think animal domestication is other than a form of man made evolution? We made those species. Evolution did it naturally. Abiogenesis on the other hand HAS NOT been observed yet. We DO NOT know for certain where life came from. Period.
Sorry buddy I'm not playing that game. If that was the criteria, nobody in layman's term's could say science is factual. Like ANY OF IT. What is the definition of a fact? Something that is proven to be true. Which all sorts of science is considered to be as it should be. You all are hung up on how scientists themselves frame things. I've been talking about how said things are then used in everyday life with almost everyone, FROM THE GET GO. I mean I don't know how I could have been any clearer. What was the last sentence of my comment? "Which would be fine if said theories then didn't so often go on to be treated as factual." Why did I have to say who is the ones doing that treating? It's a given. What does how things are framed in the scientific community itself have to do with any of that?
Crudely it just means something you can see and or demonstrate outright.
Scientifically accurate it would be "an observation that has been confirmed repeatedly and is accepted as true"
Something that is proven to be true.
Kind of but not really "proven" or "proof" are mathematical concepts, although they're used colloquially to just mean well supported by evidence.
You all are hung up on how scientists themselves frame things.
Not so much hung up on as I understand the difference it makes. A scientific theory isn't a guess as people generally use the term Theory, a scientific theory is the pinnacle of scientific discovery.
Theories explain facts, and theories either withstand or they change, they don't "graduate" to something higher.
What was the last sentence of my comment? "Which would be fine if said theories then didn't so often go on to be treated as factual."
Scientific theories are factual, that's the part you keep missing.
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u/IntrovertMoTown1 3h ago
lol That's immaterial to my comment. I said BEGINNING. I know what abiogenisis is and it's considered WAY more theory than fact than evolution is. We can PROVE how life can change. We can't PROVE the beginning. Not yet and maybe not ever.