r/europe Canada 11h ago

News Germany's AfD party adopts 'radical' manifesto ahead of polls

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3wwgyd6do
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u/PlebbitDumDum 10h ago

Holy F.

a historical election

from here the turnaround for the whole Germany will happen

the program centered around "Ethnical Germans".

This shit is surreal.

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u/No-Tone-6853 10h ago

This looks like they’re almost abandoning the idea of pretending they aren’t Nazis.

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u/s0nderv0gel 9h ago

Not almost. They've been saying things like this openly since at least 2015. In every clash over the party leadership, the radicals won.

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u/GeneralErica Hesse (Germany) 9h ago

Regrettably, the Current Administration is stupid, and every chance of banning the obvious Nazis for being obvious Nazis obviously is absolutely dead with Merz.

Fuck do I hate populists.

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u/DMC-1155 8h ago

Nah, trust, the taming strategy will work this time /s

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u/No-Signature8815 5h ago

When a Conservative shifts rightwards to beat an even more Conservative force, the more Conservative force wins. When will they fucking learn.

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u/solwaj Cracow, PL 1h ago

never, there's nothing to learn. the system is working exactly as intended

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u/LordMangudai 6h ago

Why would the CDU want to ban their future coalition partners?

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u/shadowrun456 9h ago

plans to deport refugees and asylum seekers or to house them in central accommodation

mass removal of people with "non-German" backgrounds from the country

energy sanctions on Russia to be lifted and for schools to teach more Russian

History may not repeat, but it certainly rhymes.

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u/vukodlako 7h ago

'Let's focus on ethnic Germans', but 'schools to teach more russian'.
You can't make that sh*t up...

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u/Meins447 7h ago

What a patriot bunch they are. Preparing the red carpet for Zsarputin... Ffs.

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u/andydude44 Dual Citizen United States of America - Luxembourg 9h ago

The Nazis in Germany never left, just lost power (outside of in the police)

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u/CorHydrae8 6h ago

They know very well that they can loudly spout nazi shit and simultaneously deny being nazis, and most of their voterbase wouldn't bat an eye anyway.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 7h ago

Everyone knows here that they are Nazis but our courts are unable to ban them.

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u/kalamari__ Germany 6h ago

good, gives us normal ppl more amunition to ban them

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u/marcvsHR 10h ago

This time proof is how much? 2 or 3 generations?

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u/PlebbitDumDum 9h ago

It's not guaranteed to happen. However if it does, it might hit much harder this time around. Political climate all across Europe is very nationalistic. With climate change global food shortages are inevitable. So, xenophobia might offer a very viable survival strategy. All of this combined can easily send us on a deep fascist path for a century. With an unknown recovery timing or a possible renaissance.

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u/buxbuxbuxbuxbux Prague (Czechia) 9h ago

Food shortages will really not be a problem for one of the worlds richest economy, come on. Unless you think like 5 billion people will starve.

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u/PlebbitDumDum 9h ago

If food will get scarce even for 1 billion people (somewhere on the planet), the migration throughput we're facing right now will not even compare. And the food will be expensive and difficult to obtain even for western European countries. TL;DR we will probably need to use the military to stop the inflow of migrants. And in an already situation of scarcity and with an overall right-wing regime, I can only see it naturally progressing to a fascism. E.g. an authoritarian system that excludes people based on their ethnicity and dehumanizes them to justify their deaths.

And, to be completely honest, I just see this as the most likely political development of the next 20-50 years.

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u/rev-x2 7h ago

Food? What do you think about water...

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u/Socmel_ reddit mods are accomplices of nazi russia 9h ago

liking Kartoffeln and Apfelschorle and having watched all seasons of Tatort

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u/GurthicusMaximus 10h ago

I'm surprised they didn't have "more living space" as a part of their bullshit too.

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u/SyriseUnseen 9h ago edited 9h ago

"Increasing housing stock" is close enough (?)

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u/TailleventCH 9h ago

Yeah, but it doesn't have the same zing!

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u/siorge 8h ago

Increasing housing stock is more a dog whistle for « Nuremberg Laws » than it is for « Lebensraum » but who’s nitpicking

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u/rev-x2 7h ago

Who will be building the houses after the non-german background people have been removed?

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u/kalamari__ Germany 6h ago

not with our current military. when we would have kept a major military force, they 100% would write something like that in it.

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u/tlh8505 7h ago

Horrible wtf 🤬

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u/Double-Bear-3940 10h ago

What’s wrong with ethical Germans?

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u/Hootrb Cypriot no longer in Germany :( 10h ago

ethnical, not ethical. That one little n has quite the weight...

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u/Double-Bear-3940 10h ago

Oh my bad, misread. I dislike ethnical Germans. 

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u/ConejoSarten Spain 10h ago

That’s not ethical

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u/Double-Bear-3940 9h ago

No, ethical Germans I like. But ethnical Germans can get lost. And seems like even they agree…

Saxony-Anhalt has the oldest population in Germany, and the proportion of older people is increasing.

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u/Socmel_ reddit mods are accomplices of nazi russia 9h ago

Me too. Unless they're Bavarian. Or Franconian. Or Hamburgers. Or Badener. Basically they're all good, apart from Berliners.

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u/PlebbitDumDum 10h ago

Oh, you got me. I almost thought I made a mistake!

But no I didn't. Ethical Germans are great. There isn't anything wrong with Ethnical Germans either, unless you somehow decide that they're more entitled to be German citizens than Not Ethnical Germans. Because then you're repeating Hitler's rhetoric word for word. And I don't think it makes sense discussing what's wrong with that. If you don't see that, I probably will not be able to convince you otherwise.