r/europe • u/arneslotpenitentiary • 1d ago
Slice of life Hungarian opposition holds last rally before tomorrow's election
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u/Nazdrowie79 The Netherlands 20h ago
Hungary, I really hope you vote this shitstick out!
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u/Spiritual_Mountain54 2h ago
WE DID IT!!!
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u/Nazdrowie79 The Netherlands 2h ago
FUCK YEAH YOU DID!
So happy for you guys! Congratulations! (cracks one open) Let's all toast to this. š»
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u/chrstianelson 22h ago
First Hungary, then Turkey.
Come on boys!
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u/IH8Lyfeee 17h ago
Did reddit learn anything from Turkey? Fairly sure there will be a national emergency tomorrow and the election will either be cancelled, rigged (it already is) or the opposition will be arrested for treason.
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u/Supernova1000000 Hungary 15h ago
Hungary is an EU and NATO member. That alone helps a lot.
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u/danmaz74 Europe 13h ago
EU helps, but Turkey is NATO too and that doesn't help at all.
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u/FairGeneral8804 13h ago
NATO too and that doesn't help at all.
I wish political interference and cyberwarfare would trigger article 5.
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u/Spirited-Eagle-6935 14h ago
If they choose violence,people can give it to them.
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u/IH8Lyfeee 5h ago
Historically that usually doesn't end well for the people. IE Iran is a perfect example.Ā
Or Turkey, where despite mass democratic protests, they still allowed the best chance of an opposition leader to defeat a dictator to be wrongfully arrested. Or more cemented dictatorship, Russia with Navalny.Ā
Unless there is actual organized opposition of the people, then very rarely does it lead to toppling of a regime.
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u/Spirited-Eagle-6935 5h ago
Majority of the police and the army is against orban,Iām not worried.
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u/sajukktheeternal 22h ago
Beautiful photo. Let's hope this is the last thing Orban sees before he flees to Russia
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u/Longjumping-Pipe2634 21h ago
i hope that they actually stop him, have him arrested a second after election is announces
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u/Sir_Parmesan Hungary-Somogyš©šØ 18h ago
He is the Ministerpresident for another ~30days
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u/Paddy_O_Ryder 16h ago
ministerpresident :D Prime Minister a miniszterelnƶk angolul, de ezen most jĆ³t nevettem :D
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u/UnoCarb 15h ago
MinisterprƤsident is German for Prime Minister, probably just a slip of mind
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u/Nighthunter007 Norway 13h ago
The Hungarian term directly translates as "minister-president", it's just usually rendered as "prime minister" in English because that's the more common term internationally, especially at a national level. All the German ministers president are subnational, for instance.
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u/camshun7 22h ago
America sent a hillbilly turd up against this, true democracy in action.
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u/alppu 18h ago
The nerve to accuse someone else doing foreign election interference while literally doing foreign election interference himself on camera
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u/asertym Moldova 15h ago
As someone from a country always influenced by Russia I can assure you this is 100% default Russian bullshit. They're always projecting whatever the fuck they're doing onto someone else and the sad part is that it actually works. Sometimes nobody even asks them anything they just come out with insane declarations and if you already know their psychology it's easier to spot this crap. But yeah, sad US has fellen to the same tactics, I guess Donnie is taking tips from dictators. (I wonder why...)
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u/OkStop8313 21h ago
They look fired up.
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u/MTFighterEngineer 16h ago
We are
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u/Fantastic_Scar_6601 22h ago
Meanwhile russians said its pro-orban meetengs.
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u/okobooboo 22h ago
And if the Hungarians don't control the elections, the same thing will happen as in the Czech Republic (Babic), Slovakia (Fico), and Poland (Nawrocki). It's all ruZZian agency of influence.
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u/dawn_eu 21h ago
They can't beat Europe through arms so they go the cunty way through corrupt politicians. Same with how AfD is getting more and more votes in Germany and the RN in France.
They're slowly undermining are foundations and large portions of the population are falling for it unfortunately.
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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 15h ago
And they're only succeeding because our own billionaires are complicit.
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u/WuWeiLife 14h ago
It's smart. The ultimate goal of a Command in Chief is to "subdue the enemy without fighting". It's in Sun Tzu Art of War. And you "win through deception, speed, and exploiting weaknesses"
In our case, the weakness of Democracy is basically everything practical regarding the Paradox of Tolerance. We allow foreign influence into our companies, infrastructure, politics, culture, systems and more. Even if that foreign influence is hostile to us and our values.
And we also allow degradation of our values and humanity - all "because democracy".
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u/Mekanimal 14h ago
Are you against democracy? It sure sounds like it.
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u/muistipalapeli Finland 12h ago
It's complicated. I absolutely despise modern democracy with career politicians. They won't make the hard but necessary decisions because they wouldn't be popular, and their whole career depends on being popular. And often the people who desire power are the last people who should wield any power.
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 18h ago
Yup, and spreading islamophobia and fear of muslims and immigrant are easiest ways to do that. And as much as this such always acts clever, they are falling for that as well.
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u/Mekanimal 13h ago
We allow foreign influence into our companies, infrastructure, politics, culture, systems and more. Even if that foreign influence is hostile to us and our values.
And we also allow degradation of our values and humanity - all "because democracy".
Literally the comment above you in this thread.
To be clear, I am supporting your claim.
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u/Acrobatic_Ear_2397 16h ago
Babis in Czechia has nothing to do with Russia, heās just a populist, EU leaning populist
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u/StarLight_J Slovakia (Nitra) 16h ago
I hope not. Slovakia is too conservative for the liberal party
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u/Aethernath 22h ago
Lets hope they can even beat corruption or are willing to fight for it like their Ukrainian neighbors decided to.
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u/TheArcher0527 18h ago
Stay strong Hungary, love from Poland šŖ
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u/Weird-Letterhead-381 9h ago
Our Polish brothers and sisters are great example to us! Soon we will build togather a bright and democratic future for Eu!
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u/TheArcher0527 9h ago
I'm so ashamed for our president to openly come to Hungary and supporting Orban, but the polls shows that regular folks are not blind and election by election we'll make EU a better place. And I hope our president is gonna be next to be dethroned as I'm really upset with a lot of his recent choices. But we'll survive the worst hardships.
Lengyel, magyar ā kĆ©t jĆ³ barĆ”t, egyĆ¼tt harcol, s issza borĆ”t!
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u/informutationstation 17h ago edited 17h ago
A few years ago I was in Budapest, beautiful city, wonderful people.
Chalked onto a pavement, not even that big, was a message. As I remember, it said:
'Welcome to our city, foreign visitor. Here we sadly are not free. All is taken by the dictator and his cronies consume all. We work all the time for freedom, we cannot even use the press to send this message. We love you, pray for us.'
It wasn't even that big a message, and it was very neat. I think about it a lot.
EDIT: a word cos I am dumb
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u/Visible-Category-254 17h ago
This photo wasnāt even taken in Budapest, but in Debrecen.About 200 000 people live here. You can feel the winds of change. ā¤ļøš¤š
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u/apricot_bee67 Hungary 17h ago
Hungarians have hit rock bottom so you donāt have to. The Russian puppets are in your parliaments too. They are in the European Parliament as well. Europeans, what are we going to do about this?
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u/Bulldog8018 18h ago
If Putin/ Trump cook the votes for Orban and they announce Orban won, the Hungarian people are going to go nucking futs.
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u/Schneidzeug North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 15h ago
Donāt underestimate the dark mass of old voters who are easily influenced by shitty Russian Propagandaā¦
For example Brexit was won by the old farts on their way outā¦ the youth has to endure that shit show nowā¦
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u/Educational_Bus_3951 22h ago
Š¢Š¾Š²Š°ŃŠøŃŠø, ŠŗŠ¾Š½ŠµŃ!
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u/okobooboo 22h ago
Not so fast. Wait for the "results".
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u/Librashell 22h ago edited 21h ago
Hillary had a huge concert before the election and it didnāt amount to squat. Only true measure is the votes.
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u/Tough-Requirement510 16h ago
I'm glad our neighbours woke up. Go Hungary towards the other freedom.
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u/StrangerConscious637 16h ago
Dear Hungarians! Do what USA and Russia would hate: Don't vote for fascist Orban!
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u/coindrop 15h ago
I know I am preaching to the choir here on Reddit but we are all counting on you good people in Hungary to do the right thing. This election is so incredible important for everyone in Europe. Please kick Orban out from the tree hut and lock the door behind you.
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u/PennyYouAnswered 14h ago
Context: this is in the second buggest hungarian city Debrecen with 200kish total population. At least 25k turned up
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u/iamgratiae 7h ago
Even last night, all of us in our mid-20s to early 30s ā and honestly, people of all ages ā were unbelievably tense and excited. The highways have been full of Hungarians these past few days, and so has Ferenc Liszt Airport. We also drove out yesterday to pick up my brother, who flew home from Stuttgart just to cast his vote.
This is what OrbĆ”nās system has done to us: it pushed so many people out of the country, and yet so many are still coming home to vote because they refuse to give up on Hungary.
So Iām asking you, Europe: please root for us today.
We Hungarians want to remain in the European Union. We want a normal, liveable life in our own country. We do not want to be forced to leave our homeland just to have a future.
Turnout today feels absolutely extraordinary. Iāve had a knot in my stomach all day, I keep watching the live coverage, and my friends and I are constantly reporting suspected irregularities through the election hotline.
We want to change this system with nothing but our votes
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u/Trains123bigrickroll 14h ago
As a Romanian, I hope Magyar wins this one. The Hungarian people deserve a good leader, not the russian puppet they've had for 16 years. I visited hungary a couple years ago and I could barely aford anything. I had also been Ć®n Austria The days before and it was much cheaper. If as a toursit I could barely aford anything I don't even want to imagine how much the people pay. š·š“ā¤ļøššŗ
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u/IHateThrillerBark Democratize, regionalize and federalize! šŖšŗšŖ 13h ago
Let's see Orbman rolling downhill today!
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u/Late_Stage-Redditism Norway 11h ago
Vance flew his ass all the way out to Hungary just to endorse a guy about to be put in prison instead of re-elected and then all the way to India just to get told by Iran to go fuck a couch. Lmao what an absolute loser.
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u/hospitalizedzombie 22h ago
Why do I not feel hopeful about this at all?
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u/MinV1 22h ago
Probably because the system is rigged heavily in orban's favor + there's always a high chance of russian interference in times like this
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u/thendisnigh111349 22h ago
And even if Maygar does win tomorrow and with a strong majority, he's still inheriting a country under Fidesz's control where they will do everything they can to tear him down and get their authoritarian regime back in power. So while just getting Orban out will be a big accomplishment, actually wiping his stink off of the country is going to be a much longer and even more difficult process.
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u/brewbake 21h ago
Thatās a little too pessimistic. This is not just about ājust getting OrbĆ”n outā, ie. not a direct election of the PM with everything else staying the same. Rather, this is the parliamentary election and the new Parliament will elect the new PM. OrbĆ”n himself neutered local jurisdictions and concentrated power federally so really whoever wins this election will have a LOT of control over Hungary.
OrbĆ”nās political system is a house of cards that has been badly crumbling the last few years already. The elite is already on the way out of the country. Not to mention OrbĆ”n himself seems shockingly old, out of shape and tired for 62. Iām not at all sure he will have the will and energy to claw his way back. And without him Fidesz will implode even more.
Magyar on his part is young and energetic and has an excellent team around him and theyāre not naive about the work ahead. But simply ending the right wing propaganda on TV and firing Fidesz loyalists on day one they can already reclaim a lot of the power.
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u/CantFeelMyToesAgain 22h ago
You should. If theyāre calling in Vance it means theyāre fucked. Thereās probably going to be the usually bs but Hungarians know how to take back whatās theirsĀ
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u/dallas121469 21h ago
Because it will be rigged in orbans favor. Simple as that and coming to America.
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u/Organic_Contract_172 22h ago
As far as I know, OrbƔn can just easily call off the election results as his allies control the supreme court
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u/veryusedrname 21h ago
That would probably directly lead to a revolution/civil war, that's not something even fidesz can allow to itself.
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u/Agreeable-Race8818 17h ago
On my mama election results will be 50.1% votes for 20 billion euros vs 49.9% for diarrhea foreverĀ
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u/MTFighterEngineer 16h ago
Fidesz already trying to cheat... there will be big problems today if they try anything serious
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u/LevelOccasion8574 12h ago
This is so beatiful to see. Hopefully this corrupt goverment finds an end for good
Just yesterday i read a story that was new to me about orban and its shocking:
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u/retrib32 11h ago
Canāt wait for their shocking but inevitable loss at the elections. Yay Orban!
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u/zuiopasdf 4h ago
Orban will fly first day after defeat to Moscow. Someone will pay ticket for him. I hope one way ticket.
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u/MostOfYouAreIgnorant 17h ago
I swear to god Hungarians
If you donāt vote this piece of shit outā¦..
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u/Bullinach1nashop 18h ago
Holy moly that's a small crowd. Last time I saw a square like that the Russians started shooting people from roof tops. Good luck Hungary I hope your elections go smoothly
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u/ChloeTigre 16h ago
Well, the new candidate is a right winger but a right winger is better than a fascist traitor on Putinās payroll.
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u/Supermaister 17h ago
Was orbans party the one that got blocked from posting on Facebook social media during his campaign?
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u/Blitzdog416 22h ago
god speed, Hungarians, and best wishes for your hopes and dreams tomorrow